Melron Reacts: Doctor Who 12x1 Poll!

If we're talking pre or post Missy. Then it HAS to be pre. The shot lingered on her long enough that regeneration should've started before the cut. As mentioned by someone else, before modern who there was a period where the Master stole bodies rather than regenerate, but also, I believe John Simm's Master when he said that he would never stand with the Doctor, and would absolutely kill himself to ensure that doesn't happen, however, all we know of Missy in relation to John Simm's Master is that she is after him in the regeneration cycle, no reason to assume that she's DIRECTLY after him in that cycle though.

Scott Hadden Jnr

I say Other because anything can happen and I want a good surprise.

Sandro Sliske

After Classic Who but before Modern there was a period where the Master was out of regenerations and kept stealing various bodies. In this episode he said he took Os place. Also, he is using his compression device to shrink/kill people which he hasn’t used since classic. Also there was a classic who episode called Time Flight where there was an airplane traveling in time. It might be a throw back.

William Tanner

It's doctor who. Unless you see the regeneration happen on screen there's always wiggle room.

Doby Greg

My reasoning, as well

Tumbili

I think he's post-Missy. Simm asked if he was going to regenerate into Missy, and her response was "welcome to the sisterhood", a heavy implication that he was about to regenerate into her. The fact he's more like Simm doesn't mean he's after Simm and before Missy, as a few people have suggested.

It’s probably post, but I’d be happier with pre.

SladeClegane

I think pre missy, post simm, he seems a good blend of the 2 imo

Craig Burkey

I’m thinking Pre since we never saw what exactly lead to Professor Yana.

Paul Gregory

I hope it's pre because otherwise it's just undoing all of Moffats creative work with the character over Missys 3 seasons. Chibnall managed to pull off one good episode in 2 years I just hope it wasn't at the expense of what came before. But Chibnall and Whittaker seem to have nothing but disdain for the fans so it wouldn't surprise me.

Michael Harrop

Either way, it's fantastic that Doctor Who is making us think about theories again. Last season only had one question to be asked. This season we've already got so many.

While I do think that this version is between Simms and Gomez, I also think that with a show like this they could easily find away around Missy’s ‘death’. They never actually confirmed that she died, they just implied. They purposely left room for doubt. Someone could’ve came for her at the end or something.

Bejo

Missy died, she couldn't regenerate, but we've no idea how many regenerations there has been between Simms and missy, which leaves plenty of room for O and possibly others afterwards, before missy.

grrdoh

I know Missy seemed to be turning good, at least a little, but I can't see them introducing a new Master if it's not the most current one so post.

Kevin Bartelen

Guessing Pre-Missy post Simms the mannerisms are so much like how Simms played the role.And back in Season 9 when she met the Daleks (The Witch's Familiar) she was asked if she was a Time Lord and she replied "Time Lady thank you some of us can afford the upgrade. Similar to how the Doctor said she got an upgrade in this episode

No0neAtAll

My rankings are: 1)post-Missy, 2)Alternate Universe, 3)pre-Missy. And 4) If we're going alternate universe, this might actually be The Doctor from another (bizzaro?) universe, but to maintain cover here he pretends to be the Master. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Firefly24601

A fun theory could be, if this is a post-Missy incarnation, they push Missy away deep down inside like the War Doctor because her incarnation was so different and ended up the reverse of how the Master usually is, and then this new incarnation is much more of a loose cannon like the classic Masters were

IrishNexus

@Axis, the fact he used Tissue Compression (and literally called it 'classic') may also indicate towards that too.

Amazingchi

I think it’s either post simm but pre Gomez or post missy. It’ll most likely be post missy, to be less confusing. I wouldn’t be mad about that because I love when they do callbacks of past events

Bejo

I picked Pre, only because Chibnall (love him or loathe him) was/is a spokesperson member of the Doctor Who Appreciation Society (oldest Whovian fanclub) and KNOWS his lore. When the Fourth Doctor was fighting the Master on Gallifrey, it was already the 'Thirteenth Master'; he'd already used up all his regenerations. There are at least 12 old school Masters we don't know the face of... something Chibnal would cash in on.

Axis 77

For the Master Death is a minor inconvenience. The Master died every other appearance in Classic Who just to show back up

Ryan Witalison

I hope it's pre but I feel like it's going to be post. Also we never saw simm regenerate into Missy, so it could be an in between version.

As much as I would love an Alternate Reality Master, realistically I think it's post-Missy. As Missy herself once said, "OK, cutting to the chase. Not dead, back, big surprise, never mind."

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Well, considering the fact that there's that whole "Multiple Earths" thread that still hasn't been followed up on, I'm inclined to thin it's either Post-Missy or "Other." if it is post-missy, I'm a decent bit nervous cause if they undo everything that happened in season 10 I'll be pretty upset - but it's not as if they can't make it work. I'm holding out an opinion there until we get part two. But if this is a post-missy master, there is the chance that he's trying to help in his own chaotic wild and past insane way. but the multi-earth thing also has me thinking it could be an "other" scenario. this might be an alternate universe thing going down, and that might be an alternate timeline's master or something along those lines. with only the first part of skyfall to go off of, it's too hard to say right now the show and writers clearly has a VERY intimate understanding of the entirety of the Master's history when making this season, so they couldn't possibly just *ignore* it. If they handle it well, this could be a really good master; but if they don't it'll just be an antagonist no one wanted and that everyone will hate. honestly, it's split right down the middle which way it could go

Zane

I really think it's pre missy, cause the master is like John simm master the way he acts and shouts at the doctor, and maybe he could be pre professor yana master also cause of the tissue compression eliminator,

Stephanie Reacts

I really hope it's not post Missy as I feel it would be distasteful to undo all the growth the previous showrunner gave that character. I'm fine with them handwaving a Post-Missy Master coming back to life, I'm definitely not okay if they handwave a Post-Missy Master being evil and trying to kill the Doctor again.

Lono

PRE: It would be a fun twist if thats why Missy told Clara she's known the doctor when he was a girl. He probably went to another universe after Missy shot him in that finale to try avoiding being redeem by the doctor later as Missy.

Doby Greg

Other: I think he’s the current face for the Thirteenth Doctor. They seem to want each face of The Doctor in the “new series” to have their own version of The Master since Ten’s encounter in Series Three. For some reason they skipped Eleven, though...might put a hole in that theory!!

Heidi Michelle Click

I think it's a post-Simm, pre-Michelle Gomez Master BUT it really seems like they're gonna deal with alternate realities so I wouldn't be surprised if it's an alternate Master. That'd be really interesting to see! I loved this episode quite a bit

Shae (maorismurf)

I think they're doing something different and he's from an alternate universe. As he said 'everything you know is a lie'. By doing that you don't diminish the growth Missy had in season 10

Ethan Prendergast

alternate universe

The 16bit Couple

Im gonna vote 'post' but tbh...I honestly have no clue. 😂

STEAMY_DA_GOD

The master dies in like every story he/she is in. John Simms master died twice. Why I do think it would be more interesting if it was pre but it’ll be a bit confusing for some fans.

As much as I'd love to see an incarnation in the midst of ones we already know, I think with the new showrunner's fresh approach we'll simply just have him pinpointed as the latest regeneration

WhoviVortex

While I would want it to be pre Missy I have a feeling that it's post just because it could be too confusing for the casual viewer if it wasn't

SecondAttemps

I was wondering whether these videos would happen since it'll only be 3 months until the rest of the guys are caught up to this episode.

Perhaps from an alternate universe.

Charlie James Verey

They did a Master history video with the actor that plays ‘O’ yesterday, and it would seem this is post.

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