Doctor Who 6x13 REACTION!!

I'm glad they seemed to love it as much as I did

Tomi A

This is my favourite Doctor Who episode. I just love it and get chills for the River/Doctor scene at the top of the pyramid.

matt smith, man. next season’s gonna be a ride

jade

But then what happens to all those people on the Titanic reported dead? I get your point, though.

Able

Whoo, 'Merica, taking it all!

Gezno

The killed off the brigadier cause the actor Nicholas Courtney died in real life R. I. P so they had to end his story with the doctor, he died 22nd Feb 2011 he was battling with cancer, :( but anyway great reaction guys,

Stephanie Reacts

Soon series 7.

StevenBrown

River had a vortex manipulator during the end of last season. With Amy and Rory's marriage. She used it to travel in time and space.

Scott Archibald

For example in the Pompeii episode the Doctor cannot stop the volcano from erupting because the only reason he discovered the aliens making it erupt is because he knew it would blow.

Kevin Bartelen

To the best of my knowledge a fixed point is created when by changing the course of history you would cause yourself to not change it, or not even be there to change it in the first place.

Kevin Bartelen

River didn't blackmail the Doctor into marrying her. If you watch the scene, the Doctor chooses to marry River. He is the one that makes the choice to do so. River understood that the Doctor had to die - she admits she knows there isn't another way - but that she simply wanted to show the Doctor just how much he was loved before he did. It was at that point the Doctor chose to marry her. There was zero blackmail there.

You guys are way over thinking it. The doctor was always in the tesselecta, river not shooting the tesselecta was the problem.

Niall

Sooo much Headcanon....

Dave Ford

Ok, now you should watch 'The Night and the Doctor' mini-episodes (not 'The Night OF the Doctor'). It's a five-part series for DVD, however Part 5 is not really recommended, it's just a prequel to 6x12. But the first four are a continuous self-contained story (or two).

As far as I understand it, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, the easiest way to understand a fixed point in time is to think about foreknowledge. Fixed points exist to protect a universe where time travel to the past is possible from paradoxes. If the time traveler already has knowledge of the events that occur where they are traveling to then those events always have to happen and we are dealing with a fixed point in time. So fixed points are subjective and depend on the time traveler. However, it follows from this that very significant and widely known historical events can essentially be objectively considered as a fixed point, as almost anyone who travels back in time to them will have foreknowledge of them. This is why a few episodes ago, when the doctor first sees the information that he is recorded as having died at lake silencio he says foreknowledge is dangerous.

I got choked up when I saw Calvin getting choked up by hearing that the Brigadier passed away. Which in turn was a bit of an acknowledgement that the actor passed away the same year. This finale has grown on me. It tries to do SO MUCH and I don’t think it succeeds with exactly everything, but I think that it should be commended for its ambition, and I honestly think it’s a bit underrated at this point with how much shit it gets. It’s not my favourite finale, but I think it’s a pretty great ride. Series 6 as a whole I think is my “guilty-please” favourite out of my favourite series. I kinda agree with Eric - the overall story is weaker than in series 5 but it has some absolutely phenomenal individual episodes, some of the absolute best, and all concentrated in this one series. Also we’re actually gonna get Christmas special around Christmas with Blind Wave for once!! How awesome is that?

JojoInSpace

This finale is by no means the best in the history of the show, but it is still a terrific ride full of great ideas. It doesnt deserve the flak many throw at it.

Nick Earl

Thank you! Yes somebody else understands it!

Martin Wiggan

The gag is that you can "change" a fixed point in time, as long as you didn't fully understand it to begin with. For example, if the Titanic Sinking is a fixed point in time, how could you save the Titanic? By faking the sinking of the Titanic. That way the timeline never changes (it was always that way), you're just sneaking in and doing things that don't contradict the timeline you came from where everyone believes it sank but you still save everyone. This is an important loophole in Doctor Who's rules to understand.

Sean Deignan

I think Shane thinks that the Doctor kind of cheated time by not dying, but the fixed point was ALWAYS the Doctor in the tesselecta. There was never a version of events where the Doctor actually died. The only thing that could satisfy time, and stop it from disintegrating, was the Doctor's plan to survive.

Opti_Frog

Sadly this means we'll get a Christmas special a week late. :-( On the upside, we get a Christmas special!!

Doug C

River got a vortex manipulator from Dorium by trading / threatening him with micro explosives in The Pandorica Opens

John M

Also you don't build a season on The Doctor's death if your brilliant twist is that it was a fake. The who verse is so big that this eventually was always an obvious one. It's fine for a 2 parter not the whole season. It's like the question. Some things are great on small stories but ridiculous as big threads.

Doby Greg

This isnt the first artificial fixed point we have seen. Peter Tyler's death was not a fixed point. Not until Rose froze up. It was two sets of the Doctor and Rose being there that made time fragile. And it was the paradox of the second Rose eliminating the reason for the first Rose being there that solidified his death as a fixed point, totally unchangeable

Ryan Kosier

I don't like River basically blackmailing the Doctor into marrying. From the library I got the sense it was the proof of how strong their relation and that's why River used it as proof of their trust with 10th. In here it is something the doctor is pressured to do because River is acting cray cray. Also the silence plan was made unnecessarily convoluted. I consider this season Moffat's worse while I consider the previous one Moffat's best. But I am not the biggest fan of Moffat so I might just be acting as an hater.

Doby Greg

Okay, so it's important to understand that before Rassilon (TIme Lord founder) detonated Qqaba (the Eye of Harmony), that is what anchored the Web of TIme, which spirals out from that point. That's why going to either end of the universe is extremely difficult because the TARDIS's are powered by the Eye of Harmony and operate on the Web of Time, so going to before it was created and and the pther end where the spirals are farthest apart is extremely difficult. Any fixed points in time are important nexus points on that Web, which is itself different from the progression of time, it's easy to confuse the two. Prior to the Web, there is no strict linearity, natural paradoxes are common and everything folds together, once the Web is created everything after that is tied to it, and it needs fixed points to hold it together in large areas.

Dominic D

History recorded the Doctor as having died on the beach at the lake, but as is said recorded history and actual history are not always the same. :D So as long as River shot the doctor or *teselector" in doctor mode on the beach then time continued. The everyone else apart from them(ponds/river) and doriam think the doctor is dead.

grrdoh

I'm really looking forward to watching this later tonight. I can't wait to find out what they thought of this series and how it all wrapped up.

Azmat Mahmood

YYYYEEEEEESSSSSS, we've made it!

STEAMY_DA_GOD

Christmas gift for Patreon members, yay!

coladict