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Sound Euph S3 Ep 10

Sound Euph will forever be on my top 5.
Outstanding episode. I might need to rewatch the entire thing after I finish season 3.

Sound Euph S3 Ep 10

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I get you're probably trying to say something along the lines of "this is snowballing out of control" but the line "this is too much free speaking" is just too funny

Shucks

“Have faith in what we’ve done!” - man they really needed to hear this. Kumiko is a great fckin president, no doubt about it

Arslan Kenzhebaev

Oh, THAT kind of crapshoot. Yea that does exist. There are bias and an assessment score sheet is only as meaningful as the adjudicators looking at it. However, that point is not the focus at hand about building programs or what is currently happening in the anime with their culture system and is sorta a strawman. We never teach students to adapt approach based on possible outcomes of judges that our out of our hands. We also don't spend any time after a scored event doing stuff like "man,. those scores are whack, I know we placed better than that". There is no point and that def marks the diminishing returns on respect from students to their craft and director to lean on excuses of why. The 'everyone is good' argument is interesting. Ensembles on the whole are really in the hands of the director and the culture. The top 8 DCI drumcorps have the best staff and players in the world for that activity. Insane levels of musicianship that most people in the world don't achieve in a lifetime. HOWEVER, there are def differences in the quality of the product. Everything that has been highlighted matters in getting that product. The moment you pull away one part something will diminish the return on investment. Great players and all. Even something as simple as a high end world famous symphonic orchestra will play differently under different conductors. They will still be amazing with each, however.... one of them will pull out a better sound because that is how it works. But comparing that level of musicianship to the kids here is not really fair.

DrumRollTony

Maybe I didn’t word things quite right. There’s obviously a clear correlation between the work you put in and the results you get at the lower level but that becomes less and less the case the higher up you go because at that level everyone is good. You could be just as dedicated and disciplined as the top band in the nation but not make it because of arbitrary factors (the preferences of the judges etc.)

izsassoc

Adding on more... you DO have to talk things out in a music setting. You cant get results without massive clear expectations of what your pedagogy is. I started so many programs from ground zero and I have taken over a program that had momentum. Even in taking over a program I still have to have massive communication to establish the new culture and take adaptions from what was already there and set things in a different direction for success in a new era. Teaching kids is a weird thing and especially now takes massive directed reasoning and transparency to get the buy in to have a chance at getting "good". Good of course is subjective to each program and musical goals that are being chased. But... there is def no crapshoot about any of this. There is no chance in building a music program. None. Its all designed and implemented over years and years of constant adaptions while displaying growth in your own leadership.

DrumRollTony

You were on the money in your first few points. The last part is 100% not accurate though. -The person that taught band for a living

DrumRollTony

You don’t get buy-in by talking things out, you get it by achieving good results. A dictatorship is always preferable for the quality of the product, but it doesn’t necessarily guarantee good results, which is why if you push people too far and they also end up not getting the results they wanted, it could end up demotivating them altogether. That would be even worse than not pushing them in the first place and having a mediocre product as a result. The reason there’s no right answer in this situation isn’t because both sides have equal merit, it’s because competitions are inherently kind of a crapshoot.

izsassoc

tangents are gold for me ,no way im skipping it haha~ my interpretation could be wrong : there is a clash between reassuring, considering viewpoints to create buy-in VS dictatorship in the music room , the latter being good for the product/ the former being hard at the scale of an ensemble but helps culture.no right answer ,both are important in there own way. What the show is seems to say is,"if Taki talks, it shows hesitance, thus lowering faith of the members" that feels like the complete opposite of :a director talking it out will cause more faith ,but the product might suffer

Kegs

This question feels like you didn't watch my endless tangents about teaching 😅

DrumRollTony

The reasoning for not having Taki do a speech is because it will show hesitance feels a bit like a stretch no? i get that the main character is supposed to solve the issue from a narrative point of view, but im not sure if a speech from teach would make things worse

Kegs

Asuka please just eat that Oreo

RamsessZ

I comment in favor of the pre-episode spontaneous tangent! Relevant, grounded, and brings more context to non musicians!

Ryo

The show nails it with how it presents its drama and resolutions.

Jet Man

I needed today's tangent. Thank you.

Walt D

Solid prediction

Arsenic805

I think for Tony in no particular order, it's attack on titan, vinland saga, frieren, 86, and sound euphonium

andoryuguen

What are your current top 5

Arsenic805

Might be one of my favorite episodes of the series there. It took a second for her conversation with Asuka to click in my head but her basically saying in her typical roundabout way "Your words made me listen, you can get through to them too" and then the speech at the end just felt so satisfying

Danyul

Let’s go! So excited to watch this and the remainder of the series.

Andrew Muggleton


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