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Shading WIP, and a bad news

(Download the attachment for text-free images. I'll explain why I add warning text on my top image)

I'm testing a new method to find forms. Seemingly it's more easier to maintain control of forms on a higher res & bigger display. But it also leaves some new obstacles for me to get used to.

Here's one example of recent tests:

And here's something off-topic. Recently I get PM telling me someone is importing my ALL patreon content to a disturbing website called yiff.party. Which makes my all PAID-ONLY content become public and free, even including all attachment and comments. Yiff.party is truly something hitting the new low for attacking fanart market and even try to milk our effort for money. I'm trying to collecting my thought about this horrible issue and will make a post only talking about it, maybe a couple of days later.

The reasons I add text on top image: 

I don't want to bother my patrons who truly want to support me, and adding a warning text on every of my post seems like a bad idea. Anyway I'll see how it goes. You can comment below if you know there's any way to against importers and yiff.party.

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(請從附件下載未上字的版本,我會在後面解釋為何要上字)

這陣子都還在適應新的設備,某方面的作業變直覺了,但在細節整理等步驟、似乎還是用原本的設備作業比較方便。這張正在嘗試用新方法(或者說修正以前的方法)慢慢用簡單的灰調框出想要的型體。

類似方法的測試結果如下:

然後來解釋下,為何本po的首圖要上字?

我最近才知道,有人將本專頁的所有付費內容,包括附件與留言,全數上傳到某域名為yiff.party的網站上,供人免費直接觀看我所有放上來的內容。最令人髮指的是yiff.party從2015年存活到現在,公然聲稱他們不在乎這些創作人的權益,他們甚至提供管道為這種侵權服務收取款項。可惡到一種前所未見的程度。我目前還在整理一些想法,可能隔幾天會再發個公開po討論這件事。那麼我張貼這些文字的用意為何?

我非常不想為了這種目的在圖片上字,雖說未上字的版本可從附件下載,但畢竟很擾民。總之我目前只想得出這個法子,若有什麼更實際的反制方式,也歡迎提供上來。

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Comments

Thanks for the suggestion! I'm thinking only PMing the content which are more finalized, like fully finished illustrations and comics. But if I'm just offering random sketches, WIPs, process... I still prefer to use attachment. I believe whoever look on yiffparty for free artworks won't find those posts valuable if they're not finished works.

Hi Rae, it's terrible that you're dealing with this. I've been following you for nearly a decade now, so I'm sad to hear people are stealing from you. :( I do agree with the idea of PMing content to patrons instead if you'd like to try and deter thieves. I don't think that putting content behind a paywall would deter patrons from supporting you. :)

Kuri

Yeah it seems inevitable that I still need watermark to protect my content. I'm making a new watermark so at least it'll be a bit less ugly. ^^;;

I hate thieves. >:( I'm sorry you have to deal with this, and I don't mind watermarks if that's what you need to do.

K T

Yeah after some searching on google, I'm seeing the situation is kinda hopeless. And as a small creator I really don't want to deter my new supporters by overly protect my content :/ I'm now curious what if I create original content first, and then issue a DMCA takedown notice, will those re-post(my own original art) being taking down, or I'll need to wait forever for the website being kicked off by their host provider?

Thank you! I'm feeling my approach is finally getting somewhere! It's quite common to see ppl being unfriendly towards paid fan art, but building a community dedicating to ruin our life, is truely disgusting. Unfortunately, so far as it goes, everything will hardly change. But with the support from you guys, at least I can still be motivated to create and learn more. :)

Thank you for your support and for being such an active and helping patron! I also want to make a report to Patreon, but if I only provide fanart content, I doubt they'll do anything about it. See how they respond to other cases: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/patreon/comments/7l6ftq/patreons_official_response_email_regarding_the/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/patreon/comments/7l6ftq/patreons_official_response_email_regarding_the/</a> I do want to take action against yiffparty. but I guess I need to create some original content first. Yeah if I DM every image to my patrons, it could be a very tedious work. So I'm thinking only using this method when I create some work more finalized. For now most of my post are just sketches and WIPs, so I don't think they're stealing that much from me.

Maybe they do this like collecting some kind of trophy :/ I still don't like the idea to protect my works by not using attachment. But if I'll post a more finalized work in the future, I consider to only DM the uncropped or bigger version to my patrons.

Unfortunately many creators have already reported yiff.party to patreon staff but nothing has been done so far, one option at the moment is to post previews on your patreon feed but PM anything important, maybe have an option for new patreons to ask you for past art packs, you may be risk deterring new supporters with this method though

Tokifuji

One thing that worries me the most is that how organized, resourceful this site is, and how simple to make an import on it. I just check their importer and it seems super easy for people to commit without worrying anything, just by a couples of clicking. It kinda runs like a pirate community, and it's disturbing that a monster can grow to such level. And even if I kick the importer out, the pirate community can still send other people to create a new account, come back anytime when anyone makes a 'update request', because my tiers are cheap and my posts are already shown there. Yeah I'll make a post talking about this later. I hope the idea of putting warning texts on top images is not too bothersome;;

This is such an amazing WIP, Rae!! I absolutely love it. I'm really sorry about what happened, though. I had no idea there was a page online for the sake of uploading patron-only content and that disgusts me. Patreon is such a nice platform, but of course some people would want to ruin it too. ): I'm sending you lots of love and support, and I hope this gets solved soon! ♥

Thank you again for sharing your work, but it is unfortunate that you need to go through this. The effort you put into your work is important. It does seem like the website is integrating many creators' work so hopefully, there will be enough complaints against the website to put it down. It seems like if there is enough awareness for this we could bring it down. From what I notice, however, is that the posts that which you DM your works to paid patrons do not have the files attached to the posts on Yiff.Party so perhaps you can continue DMing files? I understand that can be overwhelming and you having to do more work is tedious; therefore it is just a suggestion. Wishing you the best, Rae.

Patreon has been aware of this for a long time and it seems they just tends to ignore this issue. <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/patreon/comments/7l6ftq/patreons_official_response_email_regarding_the/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/patreon/comments/7l6ftq/patreons_official_response_email_regarding_the/</a> *Sigh* Actually I'm thinking the best way to fight back, is I need to create more original content. So I can at least make a DMCA takedown notice.

*facepalms* but this is basically pointless, especially when creators show practically the same content later on twitter/tumblr/etc. No, I'm not trying to vindicate their actions, I just can't get their logic! Well, I can't speak on behalf of other people, but personally, I don't mind if you decide to stop posting attachments with bigger image size.

I'm sorry this is happening to you. It pains me whenever I hear about patreon contents being shared out for free. Don't they realise it's basically stealing and hurting the creators they supposedly 'love' for creating what they enjoy? Did they only get post-attached contents? I heard Patreon had that bot problem long ago but I thought they've amped up their security since then. I know it's almost impossible to hope the website will take the content down, but maybe with bringing the attention to the issue here people will be more aware of how this isn't right and they'll stop doing it.

😦 I'm sorry that this has happened to you. I hope that you can try to report them or let the website know about the stolen art. *Hugs*

Since it's a website thrived for years, I'm guessing maybe there's not much I can do to against it. Thank you for your support though! Patrons like you are the reason to keep me run this page with passion.

sorry to hear about the reuploading Rae, that really really sucks to hear. :( it's really unfortunate that there's people stealing your art like this, I'm not really sure what can be done about this but I hope things work out!


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