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Fawlty Towers - S1 E6 'The Germans'

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I know this is a while ago now but you should watch the first min or so of this video where Johnathon Ross interviews Chris Rock about his use of the N word in his stand-up. This was shown on mainstream TV in 2008. Not sure you could get away with it now even if you were editorialising it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBXCP7AnpwE

Mike M

With the Major there is a running gag about the time being 6pm, because that's when the hotel bar opens.

Steve Moppett

Northwick Park Hospital, in the opening sequence, is in Harrow. About 200 miles from Torquay!

Steve Moppett

@Duncan - who were all these people who were bombarding them with "warnings"? It all sounds like a bit of a storm in a teacup. I have to say it doesn't help to become hysterical on either side of the argument - I really doubt any of what you suggest in your last paragraph is actually happening, and with respect I think you've took his words too literally and projected them onto your own fears. It doesn't matter. The episode is here. They loved it. It's a brilliant reaction, I for one laughed long and hard with them. What's the problem?

Phil Robinson

Basil and the Major's little exchange about Hampshire winning at the beginning of the episode has now entered cricket parlance: people now say "Evening Major!" when Hampshire win, and Hampshire actually had some t-shirts made a few years ago. Although being in Devon I'd have perhaps expected Basil and the Major to have supported Somerset rather than Hampshire. One of my biggest shortcomings in both my romantic and cricket-watching life is that I have never taken a woman to see India at the Oval. On that sporting note, a friend told me about going to watch Brighton & Hove Albion, and hearing another spectator comment on "a crafty Spanish backheel" by Iñigo Calderón, and the man in front of him turning around and saying "Yes, he learn it from a book."

Charlie

Series 2 is a level above. And I LOVE series 1. Genius writing. So many threads, twists and turns. Great characters, great actors and is alongside The Office in 2nd position behind number 1 Only Fools and Horses.

Gerard McCartan

Remember the major would have fought against the germans in the war.always surprised though the n word part hasn’t been taken out in the edit.

Superclarky666

Absolute perfection in comedy. You do have to have some understanding of history and the era the show was written and performed into fully understand/appreciate. If you were a 60 something Major in 1975 you fought in WW2 quite probably against Germans. You will have a different perspective to people today.

Nick Beer

He’s married to polly who co-wrote it.

Graham Espie

It’s satire. It makes me sad that you can’t see that it’s a pastiche of a closed minded Englishman. Every German comedy fan loves this episode…. Nobody should be scared of comedy!

Graham Espie

Has anyone paused on the hospital bed chart at the start of the episode? It states Ingrowing Toenail. fine - Sybil Fawlty, yes, fine, - then Age 34! Ha! That's so Sybil.

Phil Robinson

Meanwhile, people are going to the cinema to see movies about women being chopped in half for entertainment. Yet a couple of slurs in a 50 year old show causes outrage

Danny

The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there. - L.P. Hartley

Jason Bonner

Don’t mention the war! I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it… 😂 This was comedy at its height at the time as it pokes fun at the British for clinging on to a sense of moral superiority whilst Germany had long started and went on to successfully achieve de-Nazification in their country (west Germany at the time, but eventually the East too). This shouldn’t be taboo to rewatch as it’s aged so well in parodying British misplaced nostalgia (hence the concussion leading to it all) and Germany’s truly intentioned shedding of its past to become a proper western ally/member of the European community. I feel the decision to show the Germans in the final shot all stood up looking down on the sheer foolery they had witnessed wondering how the British won the war is surely a nod to all of this. Aged well, not the opposite

Ash C

As you said this came out in the 70's and in the 70's there were large quantities of older men who had survived Japaneese pow camps and also liberated the camps in europe. My workmate's husband was one of these who liberated Bergen Belsen, and to his deathbed he refused to speak to any German after what he had seen.

Sibbo

The oval that the major refers to is a cricket ground in London where apart from county cricket matches being played there is one of the venues for test cricket matches between england, india,australia etc.

Sibbo

try reacting to allo allo, once you accept that although everyone speaks in English, you are supposed to believe they are speaking in French or German, you will enjoy the series.

Sibbo

Bravo, well put.

Regular Viewer Bunty Hoven

Ditto. 👍🏽♥️❄️

Martyn Dawson

Lol good point about not editing it down. And yeah I never thought of it like that, there may be sabotage afoot!

Mark McKeown

Yeah the fact that he admitted that he would not have started the show in the first place was wild,in fact most of the entire intro was wild,you would have thought he would have edited out most of the intro after,having seen the episode Also now that he has hinted to the fact that people can sway him not to start a series,people will be in the channels private messages telling him all sorts of made up nonsense,in order to try to get them to not start certain series

Duncan

Yeah Mikes panic attack in the intro of this episode was way over the top and to think that he spent a week stressing over this and researching it too. At least he learned a valuable lesson to not listen or take any notice of people filling his head with stories,some of those peoples intentions were likely to try and sabotage the channel too.

Duncan

Yes John Cleese actually said the people he was mocking was us Brits when he wrote the script and are inability to move on from WW2 the joke wasn't actually the German people. I never get people who don't understand that nobody is condoning his behaviour just laughing at it, Basil is supposed to be a terrible person.

William Stewart

By far the best episode of the show

Chris

well done your smart. now jog on people here come for a nice community.

steven bell

The major was born in 1904 (died 1988) so just missed out on the 19th Century

Bikeaholic

Best episode of the show

Jarrod Platt

Absolutely nothing controversial about this episode. You can't give offence you can only take offence and if someone from a generation of which the Major is from says something a person from a different generation finds offensive then that's on them. Do people honestly think different races do not say "hurty words" about other races? Only a moron thinks that way or a social justice warrior! Basil and Polly are ambivalent towards the major because they understand he's from a different generation and have common sense to know having a conversation with him about it is hardly likely to change his views, anymore than changing a racist person of colour of that generations views where these comments were every day life and people of all races spoke about others like this,Basil rightly so has some animosity towards Germans as Britain was directly affected by the war from actual bombings and body counts and his family would of been about at that time. Honestly no one should ever apologise for comedy, it should cover all subjects but comedy that comes from malice is not comedy, that the difference here. Theres no malice here at all and making a comment that today's society perceives as racist does not make you inherently racist, it's is just nonsense and most offence is usually by people of the opposite race on behalf of the supposedly offended race 🙄

Phoenix

And 50 years later and some STILL can't spell his name.

Dave Roberts

Same, 100%

Kieran B

Agatha Christie's classic "who done it" was titled Ten Little N... " originally, it only changed to Ten Little Indians much later. In US it was called And Then There Were None.

Stefan Tymoshyshyn

There is no shame in enjoying something like this, the writing of Fawlty Towers is so brilliant that if you were to miss one of the most famous episodes it would be a cop out. I’m so glad that you’re watching one of my favourite shows 💜

Lauren Massey

Fordy7169 - If comedians, or their followers, can't take criticism, then they are the "snowflakes". Don't you think it's time we drop the whole "woke" thing as a word of attack? It's become practically meaningless. No one knows what it means anymore. It's become the equivalent of the playground "Nyaa nya nya nyaa na" chant. It's childish. Say what you mean, rather than hiding behind a term that masks ones true intention. I mean no ill intention towards yourself with this, but it's become so tedious.

Phil Robinson

Brilliant comment Michelle - I was about to post something similar but you covered that more eloquently than I could. It still is, of course, a brilliant episode - the whole Fire Drill sequence always leaves me breathless, it's sublime.

Phil Robinson

Absolute chaos but so layered. The running backdrop during the fire drill where the major can’t understand that there are no burglars despite the alarm continuing to go off is superb. You can even hear him being told for the umpteenth time as they’re going out front, there aren’t any major. Sheer brilliance.

Chris Carleton

Well worth the wait!!

Theloyalmuppet

WW2 wasnt too long ago when this was filmed. You know, the one where around 80 million people died. Of course there were some who still had resentment towards the germans, and its represented by the major. But hes a thing to be laughed at, a doddering old fool.

fredfinks

And get loads of criticism from the Mainstream, woke, virtue-signallers. e.g Ricky Gervais, Dave Chapelle were called out for their specials over the last 12months. You will not find this humour on terrestrial TV anymore because the stations have been 'captured' by the on-behalf-of someone-else-offence-takers.

Fordy7169

It's obviously dated language, but I think it's perfectly fine to enjoy the episode. I'm not sure if I misunderstood or if in your intro you were saying had you known this type of content was coming up you would have avoided the entire show, I don't particularly agree with that, I don't see the need to pretend things don't exist because they might upset people (Though I can't see anyone being upset at this). It's like with Dumbo or Peter Pan on Disney+, they have some outdated references and depictions that Disney acknowledges with a warning preceding the movies, doesn't mean one should never watch them again. It just is what it is, times change and things move on.

Mark McKeown

For some reason that fact makes everything more funny 🤣

Rob G

Tbh Brendan ofc it is shocking to Americans, it was 50/50 offensive to English audiences as well back in the day which is why they included it for comedy effect. The N word back then really didn’t have a grip on the British population as it did in America at that time.

Rob G

@David Broome, Well I'm not black so I can't really speak on the matter. It's a horrible word and that's all i need to know. Yeah i don't like hearing it every sentence when some of them use it but it's none of my business. It was a word create to keep black people down, they have every right to use it in any way they see fit, you do not.

Chrono_Punk

Any groups of people are entitled to reclaim a word used as a slur against them. What point do you think you’re making?

Julian T

Ok, so I just finished watching the reaction. I don't know if you guys read these comments, but I'll say it anyway. The 'N' word has only really been taboo for the last maybe 30 years. Before that it was used a lot by non black people. It was understood that if the context was ok, then the use of the word was ok. The context here was that the major was talking about a woman that he took to the cricket used it as a slur. I'd love to see you guys react to Love Thy Neighbour. That was a show about a black guy and a white guy living next door to eachother. Racial slurs were used all the time, by both. And it was hilarious. Because it was understood by the audience that despite the slurs, the characters had a mutual respect for eachother. They were friends. Your own comedians used the N word back in the day too. I've heard George Carlin use it. A mainstream American comedian of his time. And nobody batted an eyelid. There weren't protests or calls for his head. Because people understood the context of his use of the word. These days, people don't allow for context. They bitch and moan and wave banners. I think the world was better when context was taken into consideration. Comedy was definitely better. But maybe that's just me. Anyway, great reaction guys. As always. Much love.

Mike Currie

Tbf I find it funny because it reminds me of my grandad. He's the nicest guy you'll ever meet but he doesn't understand some of the language he uses is extremely outdated. My family tries to explain but he never knows what word he used was wrong.

Brendan

I get what you're saying but if you'd never seen this before and then it drops. The word would take even Brits aback today. Yes it was used like that, he was this daft old fart with old views and they drum in very shortly that he's an old pisshead. There were several shows that used this as a way to show you what sort of person they were. But you watch it now, I think it's still fair to react like that.

Andy

But blacks use it habitually? If it is only offensive when a certain race use it, isn't that racist against the race using it? Wokedom and cultural Marxist social engineering belongs in an asylum.

David Broome

It is truly embarrassing that people make out a racist character on TV makes a show racist & that racism is the worse thing that could ever happen in life. The joke was about old fashioned views being openly bigoted. Anyone who doesn't understand this should not have their opinion taken seriously, just the opposite.

David Broome

I'm always amazed why Americans are shocked by certain words. The joke around that conversation is that he's so old and outdated that he doesn't understand what he's saying is wrong, even back then and that's why the audience found it funny. They're laughing at the old man being ignorant. Basil ignores him because that's his character. Unfortunately John Cleese had to explain this joke not long ago.

Brendan

Yeah I've never actually seen anyone angry about this episode - it's got some controversial elements but it's also from the 70s so most people get that times have changed. The controversy feels like one of those things that was cooked up in the imagination of the 'they could never make it these days'. types.

Rach

Fairly confident this is "controversial" because some nut with a blog watched it then some nut at a news site read it. If your worried about things like that your limiting yourself to shows only after probably 2010. Pretty sure little britain and come fly with me is "controversial" and they were done in this century.

Brendan

The Oval is a cricket venue. He meant he took the woman to see England play India at the Oval.

Mike Currie

This episode is hilarious. Just watch it in full and laugh. It's funny because Basil is an idiot, not because of any offense was intended to Germans.

Mike Currie

Not mentioning the war, but people were still digging up unexploded German bombs in their gardens in recent years. They’d make a hell of a mess of someone’s prized marrows if they ever went off.

Thomas

We have the same message alert!

Chrono_Punk

I recently watched an Indian born reactor do this episode, and she decided to leave the controversial parts in, and completely understood the meaning behind it. I think society tends to take offence on behalf of others, and "white guilt" is a big part of it. I feel that when the context is portraying racism as a bad thing, it has to be raw and uncensored to get the point across. Mel Brooks' Blazing Saddles being the perfect example. The odd thing is, Quentin Tarantino uses the N word frequently (and rather gratuitously) throughout his films, but never receives any backlash in response. So I really don't understand why this episode should be considered controversial, when the meaning behind the racism is far more on point.

Jay

And don't forget the war was still fresh in peoples memories, only 30 years had passed, and feelings towards Germany weren't favourable considering that many British towns were bombed mercilessly by the Germans, something you guys haven't experienced. Please stop with the lectures and American naivety.

Dave Roberts

If you really want to know what Brits found funny in the 60s then find an episode of Till Death Us Do Part, and as I’m of that age, yes, we thought it was very funny……er, there will be exceptions obviously.

Young Dougy

Nevermind, i completely forgot about the N word lmao

Chrono_Punk

Travel between Britain and Europe was pretty big in the 1970s. I seemed to spend my entire school holidays either in France, Spain or Italy. Long haul was still in its infancy. I didn’t make my first trip to America until 1980 but by 1982 I had been all over the place and was living in Australia.

Thomas

The irony is British TV was probably worse for race relations but in real life far better the the U.S in the 1960's and 70's

Robert McMillan

Favourite episode. I had ZERO idea it was considered controversial

Chrono_Punk

Ummm people still have a sense of humour now, and stand ups tell "offensive" jokes on netflix specials. In fact they push the envelope far further than in the 70s

Robert McMillan

I’ve mentioned this before. My dad fought throughout the whole of WWII. His father was only 27 when he was killed fighting the Germans in WWI. In 1970, we welcomed three German students into our home for the entire summer. My dad went out of his way to show them around London. Things probably got a little tricky when the Germans knocked us out of the World Cup in Mexico 😂 that summer, but that’s about it.

Thomas

Good moaning!

Andy

It’s wild to think that the gap between this episode and world war 2 is the same as the gap between now and 1995. So relatively recent. International travel was a lot less common in the 70s, I would imagine German tourists were quite rare.

Julian T

That was fantastic. I'm gonna run off and make sure the Ministry of Silly Walks from Monty Python is in your comedy list, we've got to get you to see that you'll appreciate the scene all the more.

Athan Immortal

Allo Allo, damn! "Listen very carefully I shall say this only WANCE" "Ples muv this vehikle as qukly as pissable"

Athan Immortal

no one got offended by the German thing at all, ever!!! yep, it was the N word uttered by the ,ajor. If you'd have done proper research you would have known, and no one would have minded if you'd censored that word. It was never about the Germans.

Dave Roberts

the walk is partly from Monty python. the ministry of funny walks

steven bell

its sad that some people get offended by this because the joke isn't about the Germans its more a joke about Faulty and his insensitivity

steven bell

What makes this episode extra funny (for those that know) is that John Cleese’s exaggerated Nazi walk was a reprise of a famous sketch from his Monty Python days. They had a sketch poking fun at government bureaucrats which centred around the Ministry of Silly Walks in which Cleese demonstrated a range of similar walks to much hilarity.

Thomas

Andrew Sachs (Manuel) was actually burned quite badly during the filming of this episode. In a previous episode, they had to stop filming when John Cleese mistakenly hit him with a real frying pan instead of the prop frying pan!

Rachie

The Major was a product of his time, these days of course, use of the 'N' word in a show would be widely condemned, that's if it even got broadcast, which is unlikely, but back in the 70's UK things were different, and while the 'N' word wasn't used extensively, it was used, as were other offensive names for 'people of colour'.

Simon Cross

Basil doing the goose step is fairly iconic, along with "don't mention the war", even people who've never seen an episode. The best German joke for me is from Only Fools and Horses when Uncle Albert says he can speak German when a young German women turns up at the pub. He just puts on a strong accent. Allo Allo is of course full of terrible accents.

Andy

Best episode they done basil loves the germans!

Theloyalmuppet

I think the fact that WWII was not immediately thought of when the character(s) mentioned not liking Germans shows the different experiences between our respective countries during the forties, considering this was only shortly after.

Jason

I’m so glad you guys weren’t put off watching this episode, because like Jess, this is my favourite episode of Fawlty Towers. I agree that the Major’s “N-word” rant is a low point - and quite rightly would never be passed today. I appreciate that the point of the scene wasn’t to be racist - but rather to ridicule racism - but there are more sensitive, subtle ways to do that rather than the sledgehammer method seen here. However the Germans are portrayed as a sensitive, polite, warm and friendly group of people and it’s the stiff, British bug-up-our-arses paranoia about doing and saying the wrong thing that is the butt of the joke here. I can’t see anything in this episode that would cause a German to feel they were being unfairly treated or misrepresented. I agree with Mike that comedy is comedy (as long as it’s not cruel or vindictive) - and this is some of the finest comedy I have ever seen. The chaos is superbly written, designed and executed. John Cleese is a comedy titan and the laughs get louder and louder as his stress levels rise to breaking point. An absolute classic.

jimmersydney

And sadly, some people really don't get it!

Dave

The Oval Cricket Ground is in South London. It is one of two international cricket stadiums in London, the other being Lord’s, which is known throughout the world as the home of cricket. It’s situated just a stone’s throw away from the Abbey Road studios, where Pink Floyd and others recorded.

Thomas

I hit my teens in 1970 and I knew the words uttered by the major were unacceptable then. They were spoken by people on the Right and by the some of the older generation such as the major who just didn’t know better. I think part of the point of the episode was to ridicule those people, but that can look clumsy to new viewers today. I have watched this episode with a German, and he loved it. My Italian wife sees it as a great example of British people laughing at themselves, which she finds an endearing quality. All I know is that it’s bloody funny.

Thomas

I'm also a lefty snowflake and I totally agree. Both the Major and Fawlty were figures of fun and ridicule but the Germans were not. No one I know would be offended, even now, because of the context.

Dave

I understand your point about the bit around the Major in the first half. British TV was very behind the times in regards to race relations compared to American TV - things didn't start to improve on our screens in many ways until the 80s, and even then there was a lot more casual racism than you'd want to expect. I think it's also fair to react uncomfortably to the language used in that moment. The intention may have been to parody such views, as some people have already pointed out, but it's all for naught if the writing isn't up to scratch. Despite the extraordinary quality of the episode overall, that's the one point in this show where Cleese and Booth swung and missed. It feels far too clumsy and is far too casually handled; it's a world away in craft compared to the "semi-tone higher" fire drill carry-on that follows, let alone the amazing insanity that concludes this otherwise superb episode. I might be setting myself up for some nasty comments with all this, but it is rather tiresome when you just want to discuss comedies like this online, and some people just lose their minds the moment you point out a genuine flaw, and start screaming about "THE LEFT" or "WOKE!!" or whatever... you'd think a blue-haired non-binary Lenin ran over their dog or something. This is a brilliant episode - one of my favourites - but it's fine to point out the moments that you personally don't like. Even comic geniuses can have their off days.

Michelle Lyons

Was looking forward to this reaction and you guys didn’t disappoint, the fact that Jess said this is her favourite episode even with the ‘controversy’ was the cherry on top 🙂 Can’t wait for season two!

Rob G

My great grandma was born in the 1800s and I knew her (I'm a year older than Mike), it never seemed like all that big of a deal although it is pretty cool - we definitely have very different perspectives on time in the UK compared to the US. As the old saying goes in the UK 100 miles is a long way and in the US 100 years is a long time

Kieran B

Umm, Mike, you say you weren't born for another 20 years..... Just to let you know, no one was blaming you, mate. ;)

Darryl Glynn

This was fifty years ago don't forget when people had senses of humour and could still laugh at themselves and each other and everything wasn't a crime.

Tonia Laws

If sport and India is mentioned in the same breath then 99% of the time it's cricket

Kieran B

Or England played India I suspect

Kieran B

I'm a woke lefty snowflake, and as usual, I find these so-called "offensive" comedies hilarious. I don't know of anyone who is offended by this one, nor any other. It's all just propaganda put out to divide and conquer.

Darryl Glynn

It’s comedy, a joke. Where did peoples sense of humour go ?

James Edmonds

Just to set the context: This was only thirty years after the end of the second world war. The UK would have fought two major conflicts with Germany in the Major's life time. Whilst better at the end, the British German relationship wasn't the greatest during the 1900s.

David Smith

The Oval is a cricket venue. England played the West Indies, I guess

Silk

The Oval Cricket Ground

Wilx

John Cleese on the Major's use of "those words". Cleese - now based in Los Angeles - said: “One of the things I’ve learned in the last 80 years is that people have very different senses of humour. “Some of them understand that if you put nonsense words into the mouth of someone you want to make fun of you’re not broadcasting their views, you’re making fun of them. “The Major was an old fossil left over from decades before. We were not supporting his views, we were making fun of them."

Steve Small

Iconic episode

Tony McColl


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