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Unforgiven Reaction

Unforgiven Reaction

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Gene Hackman that played the sheriff Little Bill was just found deceased in his home along with his wife and dog. Rest in Peace Gene and family.

Manospondylus

This movie was filmed around the city I live, and really shows the beauty of Alberta, Canada and the Rocky Mountains! :)

Chris

Life isn't black & white and this movie wasn't black & white. Need to watch more movies where the lines are blurred. Hela did a 180, 90, 40, and two 360s. Heh heh heh😄 And F little Bill.

RichieBIV

Little Bill didn't know how to build a house and he didn't know how to build a town.

Brian Tetrick

It's great that you all felt conflicted about this movie. There are no purely good or purely bad characters in this movie. Everyone is flawed and everyone is lying to themselves in some way, and in that sense it is more real than a lot of films. I think it's interesting that in the final scene, Will is scared that one of the townspeople is going to shoot him, but the townspeople are all scared that he will kill them. The movie ends in everyone scared to death, and that is what violence does - it all ends in more fear. This is why we all have to try as hard as we can to get along with everyone.

Prometheus

I like Westerns and there are a lot of other great ones I could recommend (Outlaw Josey Wales, Fistful of Dollars, Pale Rider, Silverado, Open Range and many others), but this one hits different and was intended to. It’s sort of the last word on the violence and revenge killings glamorized in Westerns. This film says all the stuff you see celebrated in heroic tales of The Wild West is as fake as the stories told by English Bob and his biographer. That said, I hope you watch those other films. They’re all fun.

Guy Locksmith

Guess you don't remember smallpox. It was a viral infection that was declared eliminated in 1980 after an intensive vaccination campaign by the World Health Organization. It made Covid look like nothing with a 30% or higher death rate. Estimates are that it killed 500 million people worldwide in the hundred years before 1980. You girls probably never received the vaccine, but your parents probably did.

Mr Jackpots

Never wrong a woman, because their vengeance is fearsome!

Mr Jackpots

Little Bill is the bad guy in Superman 1 and 2

SpunToTheLeft

Million Dollar Baby is a good Clint Eastwood film.

Paul De'Armond

I think The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976) would be a good choice. That was my fathers favorite western. Probably would have been better coming before Unforgiven but they aren't connected story wise.

Manospondylus

Hela mentioned that Ned's wife looked asian; very observant. She is native american whose DNA can be traced back to Mongolia where it is thought that people crosses a land bridge from Mongolia and populated the Americas. If you're interested in learning more about native americans i highly recommend the movie "Dances with Wolves".

be frank

I'm glad you continued watching Western Movies. Nice job!

Grumpy Monk

Great for you if you like it, for me its slow and dull

Imperial Mort

It isn't an action movie. It's a moral drama. It's one of the best moral drama's I've ever seen.

Eric Muirhead

A lot of good commentary here. I will just add a little context as to why Clint Eastwood made this movie: the western movie genre was incredibly popular from the 1950s to around the early to mid 1970s. Those movies idealized the "Wild West" of late 1800s America in the South Western part of the United States. They made heroes of gunslingers, who could kill men with one shot and would often kill dozens of men and be celebrated for it and seemingly have no reaction at all. As you already know, Clint Eastwood was a big part of this genre, probably the most popular (his only real competitor would be the much older John Wayne). This movie was made 20 years after the Western movie genre died out to more contemporary action themes like detective movies, war movies, etc. Clint Eastwood wanted to show this time period through a different lense, showing that murder wasn't something to be glorified or easy, that the morals weren't black and white, and that in real life there is usuy not a strong dividing line between the good guys and the bad guys. The depressing nature of this story is the point. Murder shouldn't be celebrated even when the victim "had it coming" and revenge takes a toll on everyone.

Joel Purvis

His wife died of smallpox. It's a disease that causes sores on the skin and attacks internal organs. It was common back then.

Eric Muirhead

The best line in the movie, "Deserves got nothing to do with it."

SpunToTheLeft

Hela is so right with her analysis at the end, Little Bill bit off more than he could chew, ruling with an iron fist and not letting anyone carry their firearms

SlavicGold

Great reaction Munchies - my request is: The Homesman ( 2014 ) thanks

Ervin Cortez

In the beginning they kept mentioning the pigs were sick and it was spreading to the other pigs. He wasn't going to be able to sell them and make money for his family. This is why he changed his mind to leave and go after the money. He used the money to move his family to San Francisco at the end.

KD

You ladies always impress me with your thoughtful and insightful commentary on these movies. Hella, you were spot on with the contradictions in the characters and that is the thing that is hard to grapple with. You end up cheering for Will, who was the worst of the lot, as to the way he was in the past. The complexity of these characters was the point that Eastwood wanted to make with this story. The title Unforgiven is appropriate, as all of them don't deserve forgiveness. Davey is the most unfortunate character and the one who didn't deserve what he got. I think that is why they focused so much on his death and how it affected Ned and Will even though they were hardened killers in the past. Someone else mentioned Open Range and that is another great western movie with Kevin Costner and Robert Duval. I hope you all had an awesome lunar new year and, Chi, I hope the year of the snake doesn't scare you too bad!😏

Jeffrey Roberts

Chi got it right. In real life, generally, there are no good guys and bad guys. Life is more complicated than that.

K

Just keep visiting them 🙂

Duncan

“It’s a hell of a thing, killing a man. You take away all he’s got, and all he’s ever gonna have...” ~

Proto Type

This movie is overrated, its slow and dull. You can't see half of the action due to darkness.

Imperial Mort

English Bob might not be completely wrong to be honest. lol Recent history being what it is.

Manospondylus

That sucks.During the pandemic a few great cinemas closed here and haven't reopened.

Steven Roy

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/prince-charles-cinema-leicester-square-b2687623.html# This news kills me, though. Awful news. I saw Christian Slater ruin Drexyl there a few months ago. Can’t be shut down!

Duncan

A suggestion for the ladies to consider: if Hella is up to rewatching it (as it can be emotionally grueling), perhaps she could host Chi and Katie in getting their chance to react to Gran Torino.

S_Vive

Yep. Them’s the best movies; when it takes a few hours and then you go “oh, f*ck, that was good.” *starred out the swear word for the Munchies channel.

Duncan

Yep, Duncan; it's always in my lists (relatedly along with Big Jake, Sons of Katie Elder, and The Comancheros)... but seemingly only rarely in others' indexes.

S_Vive

It's still good. I remember seeing this one in the cinema, and that was an experience. It was dead silent in the theatre full of people when that movie ended.

Steven Roy

Intelligent commentary as always! I haven’t seen this movie in years, so I won’t comment until I’ve reacquainted 👍🏻

Duncan

Such a great film, this is why we love Clint Eastwood

SlavicGold

Hi Munchies. I notice Hela really liked William Munny's horse. That type of horse is called an Appaloosas. They were originally bred by Native Americans. We had two on the farm I grew up on, and they have a good temperament compared to other horses. I would say this is a good horse for beginners, but they are really just good horses. Speaking of horses, Little Bill made the guys who assaulted the women pay Skinny in "Ponies". But, that's not the way you use the word "Pony" today. Today, when we say Pony we mean something like a Shetland Pony which is clearly not a horse, but back then I think they meant a small, nible horse. Our first mail system was called The Pony Express which used small, fast horses to deliver the mail. William Munny's wife died from Small Pox. This disease was very common in the United States. It was actually the first disease for which someone developed a vaccine. I think the disease is mostly eradicated now. So, Ned's wife is Native American, not Asian. Ned refers to her as an "Injun"(not a good thing to say), but that's just a mispronunciation of the word Indian. But, Native Americans and East Asians share some genetics and ancestry because about 15,000 years ago some folks from Siberia walked on over to North America. I love this movie. It really takes the typical Western film about righteous vengeance and gives us a more realistic look at violence. "Hell of a thing to kill a man." I do think Little Bill is the real bad guy. He talks a big game about the law, but enforces it kind of to his mood. If he would have just treated the working-women like people and gave them justice, everything could have been avoided. The women were denied justice so all they had left was revenge. But, William going to kill little Bill isn't justice either, just a continuation of the violence.

Steven Roy

Also, El Dorado (1966). I really don’t think it gets the appreciation it deserves. Very good.

Duncan

Great reaction ladies. This is one of the most thought provoking movies ever. So many conflicting emotions and the interconnection of characters is very well done. My favorite scene is when the girl tells William that Ned is dead and he immediately starts drinking. Simple but obvious: "it was on" at that point. You guys definitely got it as illustrated by your final thoughts at the end. Another great western from that era is "Open Range" with Kevin Costner and an especially wonderful performance by Robert Duvall.

David Collins

Eyes are the window to the soul, as they say

Bezoar

Katie, thanks for another reaction without the contacts! So much nicer. Chi, isn’t that the same beautiful blue dress you wore in a recent IG post? Hella, don’t change anything.

Noal McInnis

This Saturday morning’s options *solved*. Thanks, Munchies! 😀👍🏻

Duncan

My favorite western of all time.

Chase

This is in my opinion the best western or (anti-western) ever made. Completely subverts the traditional Western mythos and hero/villain dichotomy. Looking forward to watching this again after work because I haven't seen it in a few years.

Henry N.

"Woof Woof" Thats my other dog impression.

Imperial Mort

Yes! One of Clint’s best roles ever. Hopefully this means you are going to continue with other Clint Eastwood movies. Looking forward to the next Dirty Harry movie!

Noal McInnis

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