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Attack on Titan 4x20

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Attack on Titan 4x20

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Eren isn't the way he is because of the Attack Titan, the Attack Titan is the way it is because of Eren.

Lucid

Dude this Episode is so mental. I loved it so much. I saw like every reaction to aot on ytb and literally EVERY single reactor even to this point hates Gabi and cheers for Eren bc they just prioritize him as a Protagonist. They just grew with him(might be bc Season 1-season3 spreaded over 8years so you just loved eren nearly a decade). Then these Episodes came out and ppl were in absolute shock. Still cheering for Eren, but now cheering for Zeke and Grisha for the first time too. I love how isayama really hides so many plots to create the best possible plottwists you could have. This Episode was like a fairy-tale themed dream that rapidly ploted to be a scary nightmare taking off all of ur control of the current storyline we're in. Grishas VA really nailed it btw! Not to mention eren who's absolutely mental anyway since always. Dude just his fckn Son manipulating him into killing children in such a gruesome way in wich words he used.... really goosebumpy episode again. Aot has the highest density in goosebumpepisodes i know.

tris273

back when I first saw this I had been hoping for meaningful timetravel since kruger at the end of season 3 cause if a story implies theres any form of timetravel/weird causality it better do something meaningful with it, it kind afundamentally changes how oyur universe works, don't just throw that in there for a gag

HAL

40:30 if he had known carla died he might have told them to get away from the gate and saved them then eren would never have been traumatized in episode 1 and would not have gotten to this point andnever would have been able to show the future to grisha so he could not show him

HAL

33:40 and I've been so holding back to not mention any parallels to not spoil this moment

HAL

31:00 quite the opposite but also yes

HAL

27:20 last episode but al ong itme ago because that was in a flashback back when htey talked in marley

HAL

7:10 to be fair, he didn't really decide to leave anyone behind he basically survived an execution, got stranded on an island and then got a mission revelaed to him by a guy talking about the future

HAL

when you pointed out "eren ahs gone paul artreidis" 1 episode before timetravel gets revealed

HAL

zeke hasn't seen thsi before he espected to see indoctrination that he could explain to eren then he did not get what he expected

HAL

It seems, it should be noted that Frieda struggled with the Vow within her for a few moments before King Fritz's power suppressed her. She is a really good person πŸ₯² Thank you for reaction

Aidos Smagulov

While your interpretation of Eren being influenced by past memories (and thus past inheritors) might have been a little off, as you say it's true that he is heavily influenced by memories, just his future ones haha

Zer0

The reason why Frieda is so strongly influenced is not due to the nature of inheriting past memories itself, but through the way the vow renouncing war functions on Founding Titans with Royal Blood. Any FT with Royal blood is bound by Karl Fritz's pacifist ideology and incapable of going against the path he set for Paradis, thus it is very different from normal titan shifters simply inheriting memories.

Zer0

I love the nurture vs nature juxtaposition between Zeke and Eren in this episode. Everything that Zeke is, his ideology, his plan to save the world, his sentiment of wanting to save Eren is all a result of his upbringing and the suffering he faced vs Eren who has intrinsically always been the way he is, having a primal desire for pursuing Freedom, to the point of he himself creating the path he was set on since the beginning of the show(being a titan shifter + a lot more but spoilers kinda).

Zer0

It's insane to think about that Eren basically gave himself the Titan powers and him getting the Titan powers resulted in him being able to give himself the Titan powers and so on and so on, it's a causal loop that never ends, the chicken or the egg so to say.

Zer0

Aot basically functions on a deterministic timeline, as in everything being already set in stone (as Grisha says in the episode) and other possible futures simply don't exist. (There is much more to it but it's kind of a spoiler atp)

Zer0

Just finished watching the reaction. I was not disappointed by the brain explosion :D. The theory of time being employed in this series is a bit confusing. I think the closest I've come to a simple model of it for my own purposes (total speculation on my part) is that it functions a bit like a collapsing waveform. Every cause is also an effect and the only history that can exist is the one in which all of those causes and effects align. Every possible future in which they don't gets "pruned" from the branches of possibility. I am looking forward to the next episode.

Anna Kyruin

Been waiting for this episode and the next, haven't watched yet but already anticipating SWS brain exploding.

Anna Kyruin

"Time Travel" in AOT explained: - Eren didn't technically change the past, AOT confirms in this episode through Grisha that we are working with a fixed timeline, where everything is a closed loop and every event happens once. - What Grisha sees isn't Eren but himself in 3rd POV. Grisha is literally looking through Eren's eyes/memories. The only reason Grisha is able to see Zeke is because Eren's eyes is viewing Zeke. This is why Grisha is freaked out throughout the episode because he sees himself in 3rd POV in some moments.

skitalks

In episode 1 WIT STUDIO didn't include the part of Grisha seeing himself and instead cut away to Grisha holding the key In the first chapter of the manga however, we get a panel of Grisha seeing himself freaked out with his eyes shaded black

skitalks

Grisha asks β€œwhy won’t you show me everything?”. He likely went to the chapel at that moment because Eren showed him when the wall would be breached

Jordan Cobb

+ 1 I think only it's not only through Eren eyes, Grisha see Eren when show key when Zeke look at them, and Eren went intentionally in front of father in cave so father can see he so he can influence on him. So Grisha just needs to be between them.

puremetalcore

Want to say some things which don’t spoil but might spoil a rewatch so I won’t πŸ˜ƒ

Don Pham

They were only in Grisha memories, so that random man with child are from his memory, not Ksaver

puremetalcore

One theory is that Grisha is seeing through erens eyes when he is seeing the memories. So really when he was looking at eren in the key scene and episode 1 scene he was looking at himself but through erens eyes. The "no way that bearded man is zeke" scene would also make sense as if he had glimpse of eren memory of that time he would see zeke as an old man in the room with them. Also it would make sense why he was able to see zeke and hug him as eren was directly behind both of them. It is very interesting because its like grisha is seeing the future (erens memories) but those memories are from the past (the time they went into his memories). Big paradoxical mindfuck haha. I would like to know what you think.

daragh faro

You calling Ksaver "Kvasar" πŸ˜† literally kvasar father

puremetalcore

"The Attack Titan is not OP". Was waiting for you to watch this episode since you said that around episode 4x12, lol

Krul


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