Artwork help! Iterating Iona
Added 2021-04-16 14:30:48 +0000 UTCHey all! More artwork is coming, by the fantastic Tsuu!
Elaine's coming along nicely, but Iona's a bit trickier. Hoping to get feedback from everyone!
Gallery of images:
I got three "sample sketches" so far with Iona. Let's call them 1, 2, and 3, in order. Sketch number 4 is more what the armor's going to be like - simple, practical. The 5th sketch are the faces, and that's where I've come to a screeching halt.
Which face is the best? Which features do you like from each of the faces, and how should they be mixed, matched, and blended together? What other feedback do you have on the artwork?
Thank you for your help!
Comments
My vote is for 4 then 3
2021-04-18 14:35:57 +0000 UTCFace 3 is the prettiest, but I'll agree with everyone that said that pic 4 (both face and armor) suits what we know of her much better. So, 4.
Seiryus
2021-04-17 03:09:20 +0000 UTC3 definitely!!
Anrae
2021-04-17 02:54:15 +0000 UTCNumber 1 Looks more like a warrior woman/barbarian with the rougher look. The armour is more that style as well. Number 2 strikes me as a good facial expression with hairstyle but her armour makes me thing expensive with more rich/noble bearing as there is a lot on show/guarded. Number 3's face looks the more 'noble' lady of the lot but her armour is a bit rougher and more suitable for a combatant I feel. It's not too over the top stylistically but definitely seems fit for a knight. Number 4 is probably my favourite with her hair and face being nice. She's got a practical style with it in a bun/tight braid like she does. Her armour is perhaps the most suited for a cavalry knight wither her armoured skirt for her thighs. she has less parts that jut out to snag or be caught on and she still has a good look/armour coverage to her. So number 4 for me!
Viva01
2021-04-17 01:45:22 +0000 UTCI think 2 fits her best simply because she doesn't look like a particularly happy or confident person which matches what we've seen of the character so far. Her character is young and troubled and hasn't grown into herself properly yet. 1 looks more like Iona from a bit further in the future after the order has been all but destroyed and she is older and has grown into and made peace with herself. 3 looks like a confident, calm self-assured knight who spends 2 hours each day combing her hair and polishing her armor. Iona comes from the school of hard knocks, not a fairy tale castle. 3 looks way too polished and proper for a girl with her backstory.
Melting Sky
2021-04-17 00:57:46 +0000 UTCFace of 4 and expression of 1. Especially after the current chapters. I imagine she will end up a bit less naive and a little disillusioned after (a little more battle hardend).
2021-04-16 23:38:11 +0000 UTCShould have posted a poll, unless you enjoy tallying this yourself.
Signspace
2021-04-16 23:36:01 +0000 UTCSomewhere between 1 and 3 good, while 2 is soft
2021-04-16 21:55:40 +0000 UTC3!
FancyPantsu
2021-04-16 21:54:27 +0000 UTCI like 2 and 3
Reid Palmquist
2021-04-16 21:08:36 +0000 UTCI am a fan of the armor & hair on #4, but the sharper looking head/gaze on #1. The face on #4 feels too soft.
Patrick
2021-04-16 21:03:13 +0000 UTC3
2021-04-16 20:36:30 +0000 UTC4
Ranorus
2021-04-16 19:57:57 +0000 UTCreally like the 4th one
tim
2021-04-16 19:42:16 +0000 UTCI think any of the last 3 would work. 1 is a little too barbarian raider for someone that is a squire in a medium-large order.
Kapelteta
2021-04-16 19:37:31 +0000 UTCOf the first 3 I'd go for 2. 3 is too mature/refined, 1 is too wild and doesn't suit the idea of protector. I think my favourite is 4 though. It's a younger less refined version of 3 and it suits my image of her. I agree with someone else who said that 3 looks more like her mentor.
robertmurz
2021-04-16 18:36:41 +0000 UTC3
Taksu
2021-04-16 18:29:38 +0000 UTC3 or 4
Raven
2021-04-16 18:17:25 +0000 UTCDidn't she have Cute as one of her skills that merged with Stellar Body? I think 4th fits the best overall with the face, hair tied up instead of down and easy to grab, and armor/rest of her.
Russel Yount
2021-04-16 17:17:35 +0000 UTCsame
Lazy Lemon
2021-04-16 16:59:14 +0000 UTCWhile I love the look and feel of 1 and 3, they don't really fit Iona in my mind. How old is Iona? Because 3 suits her mentor very very well. If she's aged a fair bit, I'd say go for it. 1 doesn't fit her current knight-protector job, but I could see her transitioning into that look if she's striking off on her own if the Valkyries are splitting up. If I was going to pick an overall winner with the sketches as is, it would probably be 4.
Tarodan
2021-04-16 16:53:36 +0000 UTCI really like 1. It captures a less "middle age" aesthetic than the very formal knight look, and she looks battle hardened.
Keith Rice
2021-04-16 16:48:48 +0000 UTCThrees bedroom eyes and fancy hair feel very wrong to me. 1 feels very tom boy, 2 feels like shed be a valley girl. I really like 2s button nose tbh but the rest of the shape feels like she hasnt spent most of her time training physically.
Alex Matheny
2021-04-16 16:46:12 +0000 UTCI like 3 the best. One almost feels like a male face to me and two is too severe.
Tiffany Lieber
2021-04-16 16:41:40 +0000 UTCIMO 3 doesn't really fit her. It's too... refined/elegant, which isn't how I pictured her character. It looks more like a princess. It's possible that this impression is due primarily to her hairstyle, though. I could see the face of #3 with the hair of #1 maybe working. #2 looks too severe, although maybe that fits her personality? #1 looks pretty good to me, and is the one I'd choose overall if I had to choose immediately without any edits.
Alex Piccolo
2021-04-16 16:22:20 +0000 UTCI'm thinking 1 and 3 are the best choices. 2 just seems almost meek, where I imagine she would be more striking.
Jake Cantrell
2021-04-16 16:19:31 +0000 UTCI'd got with 2 or 4 for the face.
Prial
2021-04-16 16:18:39 +0000 UTC3 Definitely
ar1357
2021-04-16 16:14:55 +0000 UTCLove 3&4 looks just like how I pictured her
Owen Wilson
2021-04-16 16:06:47 +0000 UTCI'm weird. I like 1. I think it shows she has lived some.
2021-04-16 15:53:45 +0000 UTCEdit: Having a better understanding of the question, I now think that #3 is my preference for a face, and the armor on #4 is good so long as the indent for the cleavage goes away.
Grumlen
2021-04-16 15:39:17 +0000 UTC3 or 4. 4 is my favorite even if you are not planning on using the 4th pic as her
Brad
2021-04-16 15:39:16 +0000 UTCHer 'beauty' skill is Charming.
Muspellsheimr
2021-04-16 15:30:33 +0000 UTC3
Weebeedee
2021-04-16 15:25:21 +0000 UTCI like face one the best.
Lictor Magnus
2021-04-16 15:25:11 +0000 UTCFor anyone interested in historical armor function and design, I strongly recommend Knyght Errant's channel on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/KnyghtErrant/about For fantasy artists in particular, I suggest starting with this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8DaGHL8WzM Edit: So Patreon hates links? If anyone knows how to make the links function, let me know so I can fix them. Otherwise, copy-paste works. Okay, why do the links work for me on the Android app, but not on a PC web browser?
Muspellsheimr
2021-04-16 15:21:49 +0000 UTC3 all the way
Rainer
2021-04-16 15:21:28 +0000 UTCStarting with faces, I vote for left-most. Without context, I *think* I prefer the right-most, but it feels like a different character in my opinion. For the three sketches, I greatly prefer the body/pose/attitude of the third. Regarding armor, it currently has a major flaw that appears in most modern works. The cuirass plate *must* end at the base of the ribs. Any armor below that needs to be flexible - faulds usually begin here for full plate harness', but mail or similar also work. The movement of the torso is centered around the waist, between the ribs & hips. If a single rigid plate continues to the pelvis or groin, as in sketch 4, it badly restricts movement, and any attempts to bend or lean forward will drive the collar into the neck; this is generally uncomfortable and restrictive, and crippling in combat.
Muspellsheimr
2021-04-16 15:20:22 +0000 UTCFace 3 doesn't fit Iona. I get the other commenters points that face 3 is the most beautiful, but that doesn't seem to jive with Iona as warrior, especially in so much as a childhood tragedy was one of her defining moments. My particular critique of face 3 is that it's too ... sultry? Maybe not best word choice, but it's a face for a cocktail dress not armor.
luda305
2021-04-16 15:18:51 +0000 UTCCan the armor please have clear articulation at the waist? A rigid metal armor going all the way to the hips would leave the user unable to bend and it’s a common fantasy armor trope/mistake. Very annoying if you have any interest in armors. I realize this isn’t a major concern for most readers, but to me it looks like the armor is made from cloth instead of metal when people get this wrong.
Chymor
2021-04-16 15:18:48 +0000 UTCWhat is it with people and big boobs? Seriously?
Rainer
2021-04-16 15:17:22 +0000 UTCI like 2 the bes
Titania
2021-04-16 15:15:46 +0000 UTCI like 3 best all around then 2 if you are going for a Younger looking face Full order 3,2,4,1
Razyr
2021-04-16 15:10:51 +0000 UTCI like the hairstyle of 3 the most. And the face from 4.
Tiamaw
2021-04-16 15:10:45 +0000 UTCI think the 4th one is the cutest of them all, even though its not supposed to be an option. The third one looks a bit arrogant to me, which totally isn't her.
Saskia Køltzow
2021-04-16 15:09:51 +0000 UTCJust from the three faces in the line-up, I have to say I like 3 the most. I will however add that I like the face from the 4th image the most. I'm assuming this is all grown up Iona, however as others have pointed out, I believe the skill she chose was "Cute" and the first face doesn't really fit into that theme to me. Even if she chooses a new skill instead of Cute, I'd imagine after having Cute for so many years, quite a lot of the facial changes would stick. So in order of my preferences - 4 (Even if it isn't in the line-up), 3, 1, 2. The second one just felt a little too boring looking.
Helios
2021-04-16 15:08:42 +0000 UTCThe First is The Best :D
Grissly1000
2021-04-16 15:02:30 +0000 UTCWho is Iona?
Patrick Schuldt
2021-04-16 14:59:46 +0000 UTCWhile I like 3 and 2 faces the best. They give off a more noble cool beauty vibe. While this girl grew up wanting to be the best fighter. She was a wild child and I feel the first one captures her character the best. The messy hair showing she is more focused on what she is then how she looks.
Lancelot9402
2021-04-16 14:57:24 +0000 UTC1 for me
2021-04-16 14:51:11 +0000 UTCI'd have to say the face from the 4th picture is the best. But if I had to pick between the first 3, I'd go for 3.
Bockus
2021-04-16 14:48:16 +0000 UTCNumber 3; it's the only one that says 'Cute' to me, which if memory serves, is a skill she possesses. I do like the ponytail from 2.
Jesse
2021-04-16 14:41:33 +0000 UTCIona's in a strong Norse/medieval setting though
Selkie
2021-04-16 14:40:25 +0000 UTCI like the style of 2 a lot but the face and hair for one is the best IMHO.
Theredscare77
2021-04-16 14:38:11 +0000 UTCNumber 3 !!
Tiago Mieres
2021-04-16 14:36:45 +0000 UTCFourth face seems best? Maybe? Third face seems very icy, not sure about that.
Arkeus
2021-04-16 14:36:44 +0000 UTCI'd say number 1, because it's more warrior-protector i feel. The second doesn't look good in a mostly roman-like setting and the third is the face of a noble to me
Potation
2021-04-16 14:36:00 +0000 UTC2nd one is best :)
Linkneo5
2021-04-16 14:35:54 +0000 UTCThe third face is definitely the Hottest of the lot. Though I also like the face design on the last one, it gives of a very kind air that I think suits her character from what we have seen of it. Edit: if I had to pick an overall design out of the 4, I would pick the 4th one. But if the first 3 are the only options for the face, then 3 is my choice.
Signspace
2021-04-16 14:34:49 +0000 UTCI'm with icewing. I like head of 3rd one the best. I think it's just the hair more than anything. I do think the third face itself is the most typically anime, don't know if you want to go for that or not. It's say it's maybe a bit to generic? Face 1 with head three's hair is my two cents. Hair of 4th pic would be most realistic. Long hair = too grabable in combat. Boob armor smh D:. ;)
Vegetables
2021-04-16 14:33:29 +0000 UTCI personally like the 3rd one the best
Lynx of Chaos
2021-04-16 14:32:54 +0000 UTCThe boobs aren’t big enough.
FrostyNips
2021-04-16 14:31:55 +0000 UTC