[#73] Patreon Bonus

I'm catching up on all the Wine About It episodes that I've missed the last few months since I've been super busy, but I had to join the patreon to see this one and it didn't disappoint, we definitely need more introductions for Maya into pop culture lore because this was so fun

Dominique

Im sorry if you are being sarcastic and my dumb ass is just not decyphering it but if not: does that really matter tho? both kendrick and drake seem to be responsible for keeping the charade with the children going no matter who started it

Nygren100

so this is my very first wine about patreon thingie watching each one so I can know all the scoop

ivette ortega

Qt sound like a cool suburb mom

Jair Bernal

Oh also Hopsin. Big hop fan. He has some wild stuff but some really good story and lyrically interesting stuff too.

PuffTheDargon

.... you can tell mayo only listens to specific songs of rap shes heard like pop smoke. lmao she just like that party rap.

PuffTheDargon

Hey QT. Im a big lyrical Rap fan also. If you havent yet, check out NF, his last like 3 albums for me are crazy. there is a recommended listening order cause he is super big on common metaphors and stories through the songs it gets kinda wild to follow along with. and easter eggs also which are super fun. Also tech n9ne. Might be a little out there as far as what you might listen to but tech has been doing rap since like the 80s/90s and also collabs with all kinds of people. he has some wild lyrical stuff thats super cool and hes a chopper. (aka can rap real fucking fast) .

PuffTheDargon

We dem boys beats all

Sasha

lol you're right, this beef is very much the hip hop version of all the Taylor gossip/lore that QT loves to follow.

BisonHero

The shooting was completely unrelated to this rap beef. Stop spreading misinformation.

Atticus

Maya is being so dramatic. Kendrick never dissed drakes children, did she even listen to the song? She completely missed the part about him announcing to the world that he has a 11 year old daughter no one knew about. Not that big of a deal but if she can be immediately swayed and so stubborn on such a nontrivial matter I can only imagine the misinformation she falls for on a daily basis.

Atticus

I get Maya's perspective. Especially if you don't really know a lot of the background and beef between them, and are getting a crash course in the span of an hour. QT did great. There were a couple parts where she misspoke, or missed something, but it was fine. She got there in the end. My perspective is that Drake kept poking the hornet's nest, like he wasn't sure what would happen. Kendrick has a DAMN Pulitzer for a reason. He warned Drake to leave it as a somewhat friendly beef, and Drake pushed it.

OrphanCrippler

Nah, actual violence happened in the end and they were talking shit about real life families. Bit different than "gta = violence" lol

Amy B

PLEASE give us more of QT explaining rap beef. This was awesome.

Greg Chuggs

That was a real 'video games cause violence' take from Maya. 🤣 All love tho.

ANPU

Yeah like, no Maya, they ain't literal death threats...

ANPU

Trying too hard to be woke. Please touch grass

Paula Mejia

I'm just gay enough

Paula Mejia

Petition for QT to do the 5 hour version of this. This might be th best episode of a podcast I've listened to in years

Paula Mejia

subbed just for this topic

ugglees

no this was actually pretty good for someone who doesn't follow the ins and outs of rap daily. would like to hear you guys delve further into the ebonyprince2k24 (ex hotel security who has dirt on drake) and the drake dog audio... this shit is getting wild

ugglees

"i think both of them rappers should DIE!"

ugglees

this take is not it

ugglees

"kendrick's hypocrisy is something that isn't talked about enough." kendrick called himself the biggest hypocrite of 2015

ugglees

not true. rappers are shot or killed because of these rap beefs all the time.

ugglees

Its okay if few things got mixed, I loved your enthusiasm. Your tweets throughout this have been great

mondo

I hope QT keeps covering hiphop, would love to hear what she thought of the new Ice Spice

mondo

It was a good recap overall, sure qt misspoke here and there given that she said she was disassociating but I easily understood the general gist of the beef. Also maya is right its cringe bringing in kids and threatening to kill each other but idk me personally I felt like its part of beef culture and dont think anyone believes they’ll actually kill each other. The lyrics, disses, music and hidden messages in half of the songs were pretty insane and very cleaver so I really enjoyed this recap so all in all I liked this episode, thanks Qt 🤞🏽

loofilovegood

She only said that cuz they don’t have time to cover everything

loofilovegood

People don't die in beefs, it's bravado. The only example people have is Biggie and Pac and even then it's not confirmed it has anything to do with it. Beefs are just that, beefs. They're to boast, nothing else, especially not these days.

Math W

Amazing job QT you did a great job covering the beef!! 🔥🔥

Cory Henson

more real than the guy who dies by getting shot (allegedly due to gang affiliations that he spoke often on in his music)? No hate to Maya, your comment just confused me a bit

Tyler Horn

I don't think there's any problem with people diving into this who haven't been ingrained in hip hop but I heard QT say there's only one line in Like That that matters and I was like... yeah i'm to much of an annoying rap fan to not get annoyed during this lol

Tyler Horn

Um...considering how the latest rumors in this beef are brewing, I think Maya will fully hate it now. I know I do.

Shirley Grace

Makes sense the comments for this one are a little rowdy. Shocking how many people feel qualified to tell other people what they are qualified to speak on. You dont need to agree with eveything, but that doesnt mean others need to stay silent.

Michael Alexander

In disses I think the death threats may come across as more real

This Guy

little correction: Aubrey is Drake and J cole was a feature on First Person Shooter

This Guy

THIS IS THE SHIT IM HERE FOR LETS GO

Shell

You did fine, especially for going over time, ignore the haters

Christian

This is a wild ass comment to make. QT taught me some things about this beef that I even missed despite being tuned into the beef.

Christian

Same 🇶🇦

Alwxg

I think I’m way too fucking gay to care about this hip hop drama

Ahmad Aladwani

This was great even with the the mess ups yall should watch any further disses on here.

Kyle Marsh

maya inadvertantly quoting kendrick “i like drake when he sings i dont like when he raps” 😭

Julie Tran

The shooting has nothing to do with Kendrick. It is Toronto beef between Drake and the Weeknd (OVO and XO respectively) that has been brewing for years.

Ayjayy

definitely fair to think that everything being said is too much, it’s understandable why someone would feel that way. it’s the fact that there seemed to be a disconnect between what maya expected from a real rap beef versus what classic rap beef actually is that’s makes it kind of funny lol

Chris

Maya too soy for the murder music

H

I just wonder how Pop Smoke is Maya's favorite artist if she hates threatening to shoot people lol. Interesting video though, liked hearing what you have to say.

Math W

I think it is also important to note Kendrick warned Drake many times to not bring family into it hence him dropping Meet the Grahams after Drake mentioned his wife's name

Carlos Recinos

you gonna be alright?

Mitch Mitcherson

maya’s reactions to some of the lyrics are Classic

Mitch Mitcherson

Loved the episode even with some mistakes (we’re all human) but the shooting mentioned at the end surprisingly isn’t related to this specific beef (believed to be retaliation to The Weeknd’s manager cash xo’s house getting shot at the week before), but I do agree that it sucks that family is being brought up when it was at first just for sport but like his last beef Drake takes it too far and makes it personal then cries victim when it escalates

Aldo

I mean, there's a genuine argument to be made that it might not be the smartest idea to be so judgmental about a culture they're clearly not too familiar with. I'm no representative, but in rap battle culture these lyrics are pretty par for the course. And Maya's pearl clutching could be compared to a highly conservative person's reaction to gay marriage. In which case, I'd imagine many people here would tell that person to quiet down. I personally don't have a problem with what she said, but I can see why someone might. I'll note that there's a difference between digesting/enjoying/judging a massive pop culture moment like this, and judging the artists themselves as if it's an indictment on their mothers.

oaka

It’s all good! This would have been a 15 hour pod lol & a hour on Rick Ross being a cop lol

Jorge Ramirez

no one has to do anything. just making a suggestion and critique. rather be a clown than a white knight.

Jeff Probst

I thought it was great! Super fun! :D

Kyle Calvert

move on clown. just because you dont like something doesnt mean someone has to bend to your will.

Kyle Calvert

Yeah I mean kendrick's hypocrisy is something that isn't talked about enough. Drake deserves to d*e but kodak and r kelly deserve a perspective of healing and forgiveness? Just not a good look.

BDR

got the patreon for this and was honestly really interesting to hear such a different opinion from Maya after being in my own bubble through this whole thing. I don't agree cause I think im just used to rap beef being this toxic but its honestly a fair take to think theyre both bad ppl. Enjoyed it!

Swooss

Now what if TS brought out Kendrick at the eras tour 🙏

Dillon Hoffpauir

Noooooo it's all good!! It was still such a good podcast! We all mix stuff up!

LeoLegit

Personally, I watch this pod cos it reminds me of just shooting the shit with my friends. That means sharing passions, waffling, getting sidetracked, and sharing half remembered knowledge and gossip. I dont treat it like gospel or investigative journalism. It's vibes and introducing each other to new things. They've been very open that we should expect the same from them. They are both extremely busy businesswomen with personal struggles and fk all time. Again, they're just shooting the shit. Show them some grace and don't hold them to standards theyve never claimed.

Melz

Fuck all of these people

Alden Friend

it is so funny how people dont get that QT would be into this when all she does is talk about the hidden lore of taylor swift and also knows lots of gossip...this is perfect for that loool

Petra Ylenius

Wack on Maya for not liking Kendrick.

Jonni

I thought you came off as very informed and passionate! Even if some words were mixed up you did a good job, I loved this episode

Amanda

You gave the tldr version I don’t think that’s bad at all. Like you said there was so much to unpack it would have gone more than 30 mins over. IMO don’t stress it you did great! Loved it regardless!

Drizz

LMAOO

Jaspuhh.

People need to lighten up, you did great

RitardStrength

ahh gotcha mb

sam

first “i hate that they’re threatening to kill each other” followed by “i think they should both die” is a wild statement

lasfernitas

If you don't want your art to be judge by the public don't release it to the public.

BS

The difference was the beef was between actual gangsters and not the two most corporate rappers

BS

i agree with maya on this one, i cannot wait for us all to move onto the next drama in a few days

Phuong Le

Haley joel Osmont should respond to Kendrick for calling him Joel Olsteen

Kyle Lewis

Jeff Probst

Maya's about to drop a diss track against both Kenny and Drake for this shit lmao

Loubang

You know, I just wanna give props to QT - shes really out here giving masterclasses when she just told us she's so dissociated she doesn't remember a single day of the last week. The way she holds it down when she's hanging on by a thread is fukn unmatched. 👏 👏 👏 I hope she gets to shake off the fog and come back to processing the grief she had to shut down for masterbaker. Shitty sitch, but feeling things is good.

Melz

Yeah sorry all I was a bit all over the place

Maya Higa

Drakes named is Cat that so thats why I said he was calling him a pussy. UGH damn sorry I did a shit job at explaining im so sad!

Maya Higa

A lot of people complaining that I missed parts and didnt go into enough detail. Im super sorry I was trying to keep it as short as possible and still went 30 minutes over. ALSO I am bummed I mixed stuff up and misspoke at times. I should have made a slide show to go with it to keep me on track. With my current level of disassociation I can hardly remember my own name let alone keep track of lots and lots details and present them in a coherent way. I should have saved it for when I felt a little more grounded. Most of all bummed if I let any rap fans down sorry about that - QT

Maya Higa

The misinformation is too much today ToT, J.cole was the one who talked about the big 3 a year ago on first person shooter, in it, he said that the big three was Him, aubrey (drake) and kendrick. He didn't shoot shots at anyone and was just trying to unite them and share the crown. Kendrick took this personal since he thinks drake is way below him. Edit: in retrospect, this comment sound very negative, it was purely meant as a information box to help correct some minor (and not that big) mistakes😭❤️

LeoLegit

I enjoy it. Like QT, I like lore. I knew f all about any of these people and i feel like I just got read a whole ass story 📚

Melz

SORRY idk how or why I said that... I was talking faster than my brain could keep up with. Sadly wasnt in the best head space to pay attention to myself LMAO

Maya Higa

She's not wrong though 🤷‍♀️ once those kids are old enough to become aware of this they're never gonna be able to fully trust their parents again. Lifetime seeds of doubt planted in tiny minds

Melz

I like rap.

ChubbyHobo

patreon eating this week!!

Adrian

If qt like storytelling in rap, she should unironically check out Suga. Especially “Nevermind” and “Piano”, if she doesn’t mind reading the subs. 💜

Shaliek

13:08 I love this echo

Shaliek

Kendrick vs Drake in chessboxing?

Olli

I feel educated. I actually never heard or recognize a Kendrick song but I like some of it now. Way more interesting when you know what songs are about.

Torayume

This fued has been wild. I like both artist before all this started and I lost respect for both of them. And the stands for both artist I think are making this drama worse. I live in the bay area and have seen actual fights break out between Drake and Kendrick fans on Snapchat. It's wild!

Drizz

man i was vibing... why mayo had to flip the table 😭

Pure Drive GT

is metro boomin a person? LMAOOO

colin moore

An extra 30 mins LETSGO

Ozzy

I enjoy these lore videos.

Tyler Nichols

Jack only produced 6 16 together with Sounwave, Alchemist produced the beat for meet the grahams

Yingking

They not like us! They not like us!🕺🕺🪩

Jesse

QT you got things wrong, and you're missing even more of the history. :(

Rocky

its not mis info its mixed info very different right? she has the points theyre just a bit mixed

Eddie

Shout out to QT for breaking it down! Those lyric videos though OOF. Great episode ty

Brooklyn Gordon

Myabe it's just me but I just don't care about mainstream media drama. Usually it's either fake or partially fake.I would rather hear a story of a "regular" person like you guys did in the Discord episode.

Sorin

So much misinformation by QT about the beef, it's impressive. Still a solid overview and it's really entertaining to hear her talk about other artists

Yingking

Glad this is patreon exclusive

Ricardo Alberto

& i think Jack produced meet the grahams but could be wrong - edit - nvm you're right it's 6:16 not mtg!

sam

Well now im intrigued. I dont normally hear qt talk about other artists

Masta T

can't high road in a rap battle

Michael Low

He didnt dox him Drakes addy has always been public info especially in TO

sam

QT shouldn’t tell Maya about Eminem beef and how many times his daughter was brought up

Ethan

I think just you homie

Kukiko Hana

apparently this was lol

Moises

the lyrics video on Euphoria was sending me into a fit

Michael Low

HARD agree with Maya that's just fucked to be like 'wow don't bring kids into this' right before bringing more kids in.

Kaitlynn McComiskey

i want a qt masterclass about the beef

Moises

Just because it’s typical doesn’t mean it’s not cringe lmao

Sophia

Maya wanting to know abt a rap beef then being triggered when typical rap beef shit happens is hilarious 😂😂

Switch

this ep was such a trip i didn’t know anything about the drama before and my mind is blown

Anushka Narasani

You misunderstood a few things here QT

Genaro Pulido

Crodie is Toronto slang, that whole section is essentially making fun of him for being Canadian using terms like Cheesin and crodie

Joey

Maya not built for this rap beef shit 😭😭

roRogelio

is it just me or is this episode pretty quiet? even on full volume.

Jimmaayyy

Long episode :D

Cat Bennett

I’m not tryna be like actually🤓 but the first person shooter verse was J Cole basically hyping all of them up as the big 3 and then Kendrick was like fuck that buddy buddy shit its just me by myself.

Gabriel Morrell

Saying Aubrey = Jcole is hilarious

Joey

This is so fun. I could listen to the 5 hours honestly.

Samuel Lazar

OH SHIT A 90min episode, morthers are mothering

Simas

90 minutes! LETS GO

Cody

the only source i trust to cover this

Erik

I think most of the Met's square footage is storage space. Just warehouses and warehouses of stuff that's not on display.

Couran

In case you don’t care about this drama, the whole episode covers it if you wanna skip. Funny that people think this beef is extremely violent and stuff when it’s childish compared to the east coast west coast stuff of the 90s that was insane! Anyways kudos to qt for breaking it down for Maya

Jose Marin

peepoPog WOW

MICHY!!!!!

hellooo :D

mariposa 🦋

Peepeepoopoo

Yoda .

Oh my goodness it's Maya higa and qtcinderella

Yog

wowie

AxialMars