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[early access!] Purity Culture & Fandom ... Issa Mess
Added 2021-05-27 02:57:16 +0000 UTCI managed to get this down from 2 hours to an hour and 30 minutes. Take that mainstream movies. Tight 90!
Will update with a proper table of contents in the morning. xx
Comments
Thank you so much for putting all this into words! The things you discussed are deeply helpful and impactful.
Julie Watches
2021-06-03 21:40:09 +0000 UTCI had to ruminate on this video. Just lay down and really think about it. When I was in middle and high school, I got into fandoms. I mostly ghosted, but I remember it being less vitriol then. I am unsure if that's rose-tinted nostalgia or childhood ignorance or if there's truth there. Due to normal reasons, I just sort of stopped. But then 2020 happened and a lot went down. I found myself home alone a lot. Friends suggested books and shows and anime to distract me. Which got me curious about fandom spaces again. And hoo boy was that a mistake. I saw *everything* talked about in this video. Each specific fandom was unique in its flavor of yikes, but it was always yikes. It got to the point where there was really no space to just exist, even outside of shipping dynamics. People latched onto their personal textual interpretations and headcanons like it was gospel. Any other opinion became a challenge to their reality. God couldn't help me the day I suggested a character had asexual coding because he was the fandom's anime sexy man. (Just in general there is a lot of aphobia in fandoms, I've noticed. *Especially* when it's canon. Anime sexy man isn't going to fuck you, y'all, I'm sorry. My asexual headcanons can't hurt you.) Your video put a lot of feelings I had into words. It was no less than cathartic to listen to. I also want to believe that a lot of internet drama could be avoided or at least mediated through good faith discussion. I think internet hyperbolic dialect really gets in the way of that, though. It really muddles the line between sincerity, hostility, and teasing.
Duck
2021-05-30 03:57:59 +0000 UTCExcellent video, it's the kind that makes me sad that I only have a para-social relationship with the creators I support on Patreon and not an actual one because it's the kind of thing I could spend hours talking to someone about over a beer (or three).
Jaime Berkland
2021-05-30 01:29:10 +0000 UTCThank you for sharing this!
Fosse Jack
2021-05-28 21:54:52 +0000 UTCWhat an excellent video! thank you for the hard work on it <3
SulaMoon
2021-05-28 04:38:47 +0000 UTCWhen I was a teen, I was so into shipping Sora and Kairi from Kingdom Hearts because 1- they were canon-ish, and 2: I was a suppressed baby gay who wanted Riku all to myself. (They gave this teenager a twink face and bulging arm muscles, and I was into it.) because of those two things I was *VERY* anti-SoRiku... which is the more popular ship. Because Kingdom Hearts makes everyone gay™️. I would get into fights with shippers on deviantart and Tokyopop and tumblr because my ship was right and theirs was wrong. Then I came out, Dream Drop Distance hit, and I was like “Okay... I see your point.” Though I still shipped Sora/Kairi, and I saw Sora/Riku had some validity, I still see fans going down each other’s throats because neither of these ships is technically canon. And it’s exhausting. And honestly, the OT3 shippers were the truly woke ones. Because Sora’s a bisexual disaster child and honestly I could see him having a boyfriend AND a girlfriend. And that is what I ship now. And also helped me realize that I was open to being poly. Will I feel the same way in a couple years? Who knows? Who cares. The point is to have fun now and be as non-problematic as possible.
JRL Studios
2021-05-28 02:50:13 +0000 UTCThis is such an interesting conversation and I love the nuance you provide here. When you were talking about what you would like to see it fandom in general it reminded me of the otome game ( aka visual novels aimed at women) fandom spaces I have been. In forums that I'm in I have always been impressed with how respectful everyone is of eachother's favorite ships or LIs even if they are "problematic" because there is an understanding that a person's taste in fictional men doesn't reflect their character while at the same time there is a respect for other people's triggers and trauma points so if an LI or route in a game is potentially triggering discussion of it is appropriately tagged. A lot of the fandom is women in their mid to late 20's and early 30's and I think that contributes to why the atmosphere is so relaxed and understanding.
Rock_the_chelle
2021-05-27 16:39:17 +0000 UTCThis is an absolute banger of a video! You nailed a lot of my feelings regarding purity culture spot-on. I really think that a lot of fandom nowadays have forgotten what "critical thinking" means, and we could really do with a lot of nuance when analyzing fictional ships. And also DON'T HARASS PEOPLE. Geez!!
Draconomicat
2021-05-27 14:31:16 +0000 UTCCLAMP is the manga studio that made a bunch of very popular shoujo stuff, such as Card Captor Sakura and Magic Knight Rayehart. They're rather infamous for the huge age-gap romantic relationships they imply, like in CCS with Sakura's friend Rika having a massive crush on their homeroom teacher
Draconomicat
2021-05-27 14:29:56 +0000 UTCI love how much the effort In the research translates to the videos, makes it such a treat to watch and rewatch, thank you Princess!
Esteban Miranda
2021-05-27 08:38:11 +0000 UTCThis is SUCH a banger and you're going to need a good moderator for those youtube comments! That said, I love the nuance and eye for the bigger picture you're using and think it's incredibly smart and meaningful. I see you out here taking no prisoners in fandom and I am here. for. it. (and really needed it).
Lydia
2021-05-27 05:13:02 +0000 UTC1) this video is a banger and I think its gonna shake the table What is clamp?
Walker Rainge
2021-05-27 04:47:14 +0000 UTCI was just about to go to bed noooo 😭 (Excited though!)
Kiara
2021-05-27 04:40:11 +0000 UTCI just started the video, but congrats on the Audible sponsorship! Make that $$$! (Also, I recommend The Silence of the Girls by Pat Barker. And Circe by Madeline Miller, obviously, but that one's more popular and you've probably read it.)
Maura W
2021-05-27 03:28:17 +0000 UTCEyo, another "You're Wrong About" fan!
Eli Bildirici
2021-05-27 03:22:08 +0000 UTCwoohoo!! im watching tomorrow morning!
harriyanna hook
2021-05-27 03:16:37 +0000 UTC
