Lingerie Proposal
Added 2019-10-21 16:00:04 +0000 UTCYoungtani tries to persuade Natani, suggested by BlazingFoxSpirit!
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Natani has sometimes been betrayed by his body.
J. Martin Laursen
2025-04-19 18:21:30 +0000 UTCAww Youngtani is so cute.
Went Brown
2020-01-16 00:47:29 +0000 UTCcan i has an encore piece to dis?
Joseph jimenez
2019-11-07 19:29:14 +0000 UTCI love this, nice work Tom XD
Caleb H.
2019-10-23 19:14:03 +0000 UTCActually, if you don’t mind, I’ve legitimately always wondered about the origins and meanings of xie, ze, and the other gender-neutral/neuter pronouns. If you’re willing, I’d actually like to be filled in. If you’d rather not do it here, I can give you my email or discord.
DarthKeidran
2019-10-23 14:19:09 +0000 UTCI agree. I am getting so sick of it, I’d almost welcome… Sorry, having a heart attack here… Not seeing another sketch/color art with Natani. While it happens occasionally, it happens insanely rarely with the Clovis ones. And Clovis was a male from the beginning with no femininity whatsoever who got genderbent. He out of all characters I would say counts 100% as an individual who is a male inside a female body. I understand where people are coming from when it comes to any point regarding Natani, but, there have been 3 different points for Natani that all originate in canon, from Tom. Trans-Man came from Natani’s backstory in comic, the character bio, as well as the recent moment in comic with Natani threatening Eric (to name just a few). I actually quite like our self-identified Tomboy, <b>Palea</b>’s point of view, which, like mine, is more in the middle. That point of view being that Natani is a Tomboy, or rather, was originally, especially considering Youngtani’s conversation with the former. Lastly, but not least, The gender-confused female, which can be derived from the description of the comic, that from what I could find had been up for years, the conversation with Youngtani, as well as Tom describing Natani as “she/her” in a few instances on DeviantArt as well as elsewhere. I guess I’m trying to say I’m frustrated that, like you said, and I’ve destroyed multiple keyboards and screen protectors typing (figuratively), fighting about pronouns is pointless. It just leads people to hate each other, and all over a point that may or may not change in canon. We just don’t know, and to watch people attack each other like they do just hurts on the inside. I will respect people for their choice of pronoun, regardless of my personal feelings or stake in the matter, and will never correct people. You use he/him, I avoid them here, but use she/her in most cases in private, however, I respect your choice even though it differs from mine. Tom’s philosophical message within the comic, TOLERANCE (the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.) for crying out loud, is a simple thing that so many people on here across the political spectrum don’t seem to have a grasp on and it really does kill me to see this happen. Sorry about that. My grandfather is in the hospital dying and I guess I went on a rant trying to agree with you, and vent my frustrations with the matter, as well as distract myself from the aforementioned predicament.
DarthKeidran
2019-10-23 14:15:05 +0000 UTCEveryone has a part of right. Kinda overwhelming that in every Natani's post, there always has to be someone's argument about it. In my little opinion... It's just Natani, and i respect him who he is, and what he'd chosen to be. I mean here "I still see myself as one of the guys" and "i feel less self-conscious". We just have to wait for the plot in the comic about it. (In my opinion it already has been showen), and fightimg about pronouns is pointless.
Natani Wolf
2019-10-23 05:09:14 +0000 UTCOn the other hand... there's lots of internal evidence that Natani is drifting toward being gender-fluid, while continuing to maintain the male outward persona in order to avoid awkward conversations. It's hard to say at this point whether "he", "she", "they" (may be particularly apt in this case), "xie", or some other pronoun will be the eventual preference. Or a combination of them. By all means respect Natani's preferences; "Absolute is the right of any man to spell his name 'Jones' and have it pronounced 'Smith'." But given that we have an internal view of the character's evolving viewpoint, I don't think folks are being uncaring when they pick the female pronoun; I think it just reflects Natani's own self-questioning.
Joseph Kesselman
2019-10-22 23:28:31 +0000 UTCI'm a cis man, but yeah, I find it troublesome as well.
steelabjur
2019-10-22 20:19:38 +0000 UTCAs a trans man, every time I see someone call Natani a “she” and sexualize HIS female body, I die a little inside.
Tenko Draxon
2019-10-22 19:51:18 +0000 UTCYou're a fan-fic psychlogist or what? Yooure completely right!
Fox-o guy
2019-10-22 16:47:00 +0000 UTCShe knows she wants to :3
Steve Gloria
2019-10-22 12:05:14 +0000 UTCAs someone who enjoy ladies in lingerie I approve of youngnani idea.
Remmus
2019-10-22 10:56:36 +0000 UTCYoungtani vs No-Tani.
Torbjörn Larsson
2019-10-22 08:14:27 +0000 UTCHey, as your local transmasc, this comment is violently transphobic. Just because Natani views his past-self as feminine doesn't mean his identity is being warped by Zen's, or that he's going to magically change his mind about his identity, and thinking so, thinking that it'd be /character growth/ is really gross dude.
viiperfang
2019-10-22 06:30:47 +0000 UTCCome on Natani, I’m sure Keith would love it!
Mediawatcher
2019-10-22 04:46:47 +0000 UTCWell, not so much covering up as them being non-existent in their mind's eye. They do consider themselves male, after all.
Cha11engerD
2019-10-22 02:22:23 +0000 UTCIs it just me, or does Youngtani's appearance as female (not just in the non-canon sketches, but in the comic itself) confirm that despite being a tomboy + liking to be seen as male because it freed her of discrimination, the original state of Natani's gender-identity at the level of her soul was female? I sure think so. Natani's identification as male seems to be purely because of that part being replaced by Zen's male gender identity. So what we will see, if I'm right, is Natani's original female identity beginning to reassert itself. This arguably began when Keith discovered her secret, and is being further expressed by the reemergence of her pre-fracture self and her newfound independence from Zen. This will lead to character development for Nat, as we see her take to heart Adelaide's message about strength (which Natani probably values over any other physical and emotional trait) and femininity not being mutually exclusive. Also, B E W B S, B R A H
AetherSprite224
2019-10-22 02:02:43 +0000 UTCSeems young Natani did take the reins... maybe while Nat was sleepin' Witch's Wardrobe: https://www.patreon.com/posts/witchs-wardrobe-14820739
Ordithus
2019-10-21 23:26:48 +0000 UTCI'm only slightly upset that Natani is covering those big furry wolf balloons of hers.
Tevin Escobar
2019-10-21 22:35:38 +0000 UTCNatani does in fact own lingerie, as a gift from Kat. The reaction was basically "Why would you make me this?!" "Oh I'm sorry I'll take it back-" "NO I'll keep it anyway." So I expect we'll see it again when Keith and Natani decide to take the plunge, which given their most recent interactions may be sooner than expected.
Kubulai
2019-10-21 21:38:29 +0000 UTCShush Youngtani, let Natani wear his boxers and binder.
The Last Milkman
2019-10-21 20:39:18 +0000 UTCListen to Youngtani - Nude is great and all, but lingerie leaves much to the imagination, and Keith tends to have that in spades.
Customaera
2019-10-21 20:37:48 +0000 UTCShe kind of did a page or two before the last one that had Keith, Zen, and Natani.
DarthKeidran
2019-10-21 19:28:40 +0000 UTCXD that ending. Me: (because of sleep deprivation) ☠️
DarthKeidran
2019-10-21 19:27:38 +0000 UTCYoungtani: "Whatever. Gendered clothing is a social construct anyway." Natani: "Wh-where did you hear that? What does that even mean?" Y-tani: "It MEANS that the clothes you wear don't affect how much of a male you are. In fact, I'd argue that any male who could walk around in this and still feel manly is MORE comfortably male than one who's terrified of some frilly little pieces of silk." N-tani: "Frilly and little is right... And hey! I'm plenty male and I'm very comfortable!" Y-tani: "Oh really? Then prove it! You put this on, march over to Keith, look him in right the eye, and tell him, 'I'm wearing this. I'm a male. And Nora-dammit you WILL respect me!" N-tani: "Grrr... FINE! Gimme the thing already!" Y-tani: "Don't need to. You're already wearing it. You've been staring at yourself in the washroom mirror, muttering to yourself like an idiot for the past fifteen minutes." N-tani: "Whu...?" Keith: "Uh... Hey, Nat? Everything okay in there?" Snarly, frilly N-tani: "I'M A MALE AND YOU WILL RESPECT ME!" Keith, assuming the position: "Yes, sir! Of course, sir! This one's safeword is 'Kowabunga', sir!" Ghost Laura: "Looks like all that 'training' stuck after all. Hehe!"
Roughlandin
2019-10-21 19:07:04 +0000 UTCHmm, I'd like to see this carry over into the comic. Maybe Youngtani starts making appearances in Nat's mind like Zen does, giving her own input.
hippiewerewolf
2019-10-21 18:39:33 +0000 UTCOooh! The boob part! The bood part! ... ehrm , yes.
Torbjörn Larsson
2019-10-21 17:56:34 +0000 UTCShe is
Fox-o guy
2019-10-21 17:16:53 +0000 UTCYou sure are! Fan-fic of even art pieces!
Fox-o guy
2019-10-21 17:12:28 +0000 UTCSounds a lot like “Join the Dark Side”. Which is always fun, trust me. 😋
DarthKeidran
2019-10-21 17:09:06 +0000 UTCI agree. Youngtani: Dayum! We look hot! Natani: (thoughts) Stahp It!!! You’re giving me uncomfortable thoughts! Youngtani: *begins laughing uncontrollably*
DarthKeidran
2019-10-21 17:08:11 +0000 UTCThat depends on your perspective and openness to others perspectives… On the far end of one hand, Natani is a Gay, Pre-transition, Trans-man, Period. (Importance: What you feel like is > Biological facts) On the fence in the middle, Natani’s Gay because of the male mentality, and straight due to physiology. (Importance: What you feel like is = to Biological facts)(As best as I can word it, as I consider myself closer to on the fence than anything: Is a female attracted to a male, but has many masculine personality traits in contrast). And on the far end of the other hand, Natani’s a straight, gender-confused, female, Period. (Importance: Biological facts are > What you feel like) <i> And please, I’m not trying to start a fight anybody, just trying to civilly and peacefully explain to the best of my abilities. </i>
DarthKeidran
2019-10-21 16:54:43 +0000 UTCYoungtani is sexy
Went Brown
2019-10-21 16:52:01 +0000 UTCCome and embrace your female side, think of Keith
MiDoFox
2019-10-21 16:50:42 +0000 UTCThe follow up to there, where Youngtani successfully convinces her, needs to be seen!
coredumperror
2019-10-21 16:49:04 +0000 UTCZen, in mindscape: *figuratively opens the door* Keith: *Tailsaber Activation* Zen: Gah! You’ve poked my mind’s eye out!
DarthKeidran
2019-10-21 16:48:12 +0000 UTCI'm still confused... If Natani is a male on the inside and female only in the outside, does that mean his/her relationship with Keith is some kind of gay relationship?
The Furry Centinel
2019-10-21 16:47:27 +0000 UTCSee my reply to Mitchell Sealy above for some more details, but Youngtani is essentially one of the fragments of Natani’s mind created when Issac died defending himself.
DarthKeidran
2019-10-21 16:46:20 +0000 UTCYoungtani should hook up with Young Keith, same relationship with none of the hang ups. If their relationship absolutely needs a conflict it can be Keith being unable to keep up with a ravenous Natani.
MoppyPuppy
2019-10-21 16:40:37 +0000 UTCIn sketch AU, she is a fully fledged secondary personality, yes, but I wouldn't say she's vying with him for control over their older body, more like teasing him.
Sons of Lorgar
2019-10-21 16:34:51 +0000 UTCWho is Youngati
Wolf guy
2019-10-21 16:33:05 +0000 UTCWait, is Youngtani like a full fledged second personality vying for control of the body? Not just like a visual representation of Natani's repressed memories or whatever?
Mitchell Sealy
2019-10-21 16:24:37 +0000 UTCWoot! woot! I guess that means this is a lucky sketch. The question is, is it lucky for Us, Youngtani, Natani, Keith, or a combination of two or more of the above?
DarthKeidran
2019-10-21 16:23:16 +0000 UTCKeith be like, “Natani… are you alright? This doesn’t seem quite… normal for you…”
DarthKeidran
2019-10-21 16:18:31 +0000 UTC777th Sunday Sketch! ✨
Terra The Wizard
2019-10-21 16:16:59 +0000 UTCI don’t know. Our minds aren’t linked. 🤣
DarthKeidran
2019-10-21 16:16:43 +0000 UTCI feel Youngtani would get along very well with Karen, and perhaps Maddie.
DarthKeidran
2019-10-21 16:15:48 +0000 UTC<b>STORY-COMMENT™</b> Youngtani: Dew It! Natani: No means no! Keith: <“Hey Natani, I’m gonna run into town for a bit. I’ll pick up some new mana crystals for you while I’m at it, wanna join?”> Natani: <“I’m feeling a bit under the weather today. I think I’ll stay behind today.”> Keith: <“want me to get anything for that?”> Natani: <“I’ll be fine. Pretty sure it’s just something I ate.”> Keith: <“I’ll check on you when I get back to be sure.”> *leaves* Natani: (thoughts) I better suppress this memory… And don’t you dare say a word of this to Zen! Youngtani: Pftt! Chicken. Natani: *Tries on the ‘small-clothes’ that Kathrin made and looks in a mirror* *blushes* Youngtani: Dayum! We look hot! Natani: (thoughts) Stahp It!!! You’re giving me uncomfortable thoughts! Youngtani: *begins laughing uncontrollably* <i> And please, I’m not trying to start a fight anybody, just trying to give people a fun time.</i>
DarthKeidran
2019-10-21 16:14:51 +0000 UTCUnless Youngtani uses some forcing
Keith Keiser
2019-10-21 16:12:50 +0000 UTCNo! That's not going to happen people!! >:c
Natani Wolf
2019-10-21 16:08:40 +0000 UTCWe definitely need a part 2 here
JCA-Kun
2019-10-21 16:07:15 +0000 UTCListen to your younger self, Natani. Go for it.
SCD
2019-10-21 16:06:27 +0000 UTCJust one time i want to see Youngtani take over and give Keith the night of his life lol.
Malen
2019-10-21 16:06:07 +0000 UTCCome on Natani~ we know you want to VwV
Ryan Reaper
2019-10-21 16:05:58 +0000 UTCWhy am I devilishly laughing out of joy when I see this? 😅😂
Miftox 01
2019-10-21 16:04:35 +0000 UTCDon't let Youngtani take control, nobody would be able to handle it
Keith Keiser
2019-10-21 16:03:18 +0000 UTCAbsolutely baller mood right here
ChampionOfBagels
2019-10-21 16:02:12 +0000 UTCDo it!
JsTheWolf
2019-10-21 16:01:58 +0000 UTCI bet wearing that would give Keith a katana-tail though...
Shockblaster
2019-10-21 16:01:47 +0000 UTC
