In Japanese mythology when fishes jump across the holy gates and swim agagainst the waterfall, they become a dragon
Saeraphin
2023-01-27 02:27:31 +0000 UTC
You should read your last sentence aimed at yourself honestly.
Nick Santos
2023-01-26 06:42:10 +0000 UTC
lmao man, here look at this post, https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/or2kcv/the_vivre_cards_are_100_canon/
Nick Santos
2023-01-26 06:41:36 +0000 UTC
The fish fish fruit stuff was really straight forward if you’re a Japanese mythology nerd but also if you’re a Pokémon nerd too
KenKen
2023-01-24 03:35:01 +0000 UTC
@Nick Santos, the vivre cards are NOT written by Oda and have had a lot of incorrect information before, including one that said Luffy ate his devil fruit when he was 15, one that said Yasuie never ate a smile fruit, and more. Never has there been any indication that vivre cards are written by Oda, and we actually know that to not be the case. Stop spreading false information to further your agenda.
The Otter Man
2023-01-23 21:33:47 +0000 UTC
I’m getting motion sickness from Ruff’s bobbing head 😂
Xeth
2023-01-23 13:37:29 +0000 UTC
Yea 2022 sucked, the hack and the one month break for the manga too. It was so painful! 😭
Xeth
2023-01-23 13:28:31 +0000 UTC
without making a big deal out of it now, but i think if yamato was a real person, yamato would be happy with both he and she as pronouns. since oden's death she wants to be LIKE oden, she doesn't want to be oden directly, and because oden was a man she is now one too, but knows and accepts that she was born a woman. if oden were a woman, nothing would change for yamato in terms of gender. kaido only calls her a son because yamato just wants to be oden and kaido thinks "if you want to be oden then you'll kindly be beaten like him" and because of that kaido has a warrior's mind I also think that kaido is so tuned that he is from the beginning actually wanted to have a son and not a daughter and now "plays along" so to speak. if you want to look at the whole thing from an official point of view, oda called yamato a woman. yamato describes himself as a man in most cases, but also as a woman. So i think both would bei correct.
so i think that if yamato, for whatever reason, discards the name oden and accepts itself completely as yamato and hands over the protection of wano to other hands (red scabbards, citizen of wanos), she will call herself a woman from then on. like she said a few episodes ago she's doing all this to protect wano. however, if wano were to be free at some point, this reason would no longer apply. but whether she will continue to call herself oden and therefore man only the future will tell
Marcel Badberg
2023-01-23 00:22:11 +0000 UTC
also very true. so BB definitely does have some serious combat ability to permantently injure who we consider to basically be the strongest person in One Piece. remember Shanks did hold Kaido off from coming to Marineford and still made it to stop the war.
mk9beatz
2023-01-22 21:49:45 +0000 UTC
Hey man I appreciate how you worded that. That’s an understandable point to make. However, I would say that my point of official vivre card canon would weigh much higher than an argument of gender stereotypes even in the form of one of Oda’s gags. That argument loses even more credibility when taking into account some spoiler characters in the future.
Nick Santos
2023-01-22 19:47:28 +0000 UTC
It's origins are in China but myths travel and change and is a part of Japanese culture as well. And there are differences in all the tellings
Jimmy H Lam
2023-01-22 18:41:12 +0000 UTC
The folk tail goes, there was a carp (koi fish) who wanted to be a dragon. He was told that if he as a carp could swim to the top of a waterfall he would become a dragon. The fish tried and tried, because this is an impossible act. Fish can jump.very high, but scaling a waterfall requires the ability to swim up falling water. But stupid things can make the impossible possible and after many years he made it, and the heavens granted him that wish and made him a dragon. And from that day, any carp that can scale a waterfall on their own would become a dragon. But I like to think this is a tale of self realization rather than myth. If you scale the highest mountain, you are already the dragon you wanted to be.
Jimmy H Lam
2023-01-22 18:39:23 +0000 UTC
Thanks for your comment @Gladiuswingzero! I was confused too and thought the same as you but according to the vivre card Yamato is referred to as female! Here is a link for canon source material for you! It is posted on a fan page but it is the official vivre card entry which Oda releases as canon for One Piece! https://www.opfanpage.com/2021/09/06/yamatos-gender-is-confirmed-in-the-new-vivre-card/
Nick Santos
2023-01-22 16:24:20 +0000 UTC
Hey hope you have an amazing day. And I quote from Oda’s canon vivre card entry of Yamato, that Yamato is listed as female with she/her pronouns! Sorry if I offended you was trying to be respectful but you need to learn how to communicate respectfully on the internet! https://www.opfanpage.com/2021/09/06/yamatos-gender-is-confirmed-in-the-new-vivre-card/
Nick Santos
2023-01-22 16:21:33 +0000 UTC
and i quote, directly from yamato, "oden was a man, so i became a man too." what the hell else do you want? yamato is a man.
o- o
2023-01-22 16:14:30 +0000 UTC
The wait between episode 1013 to episode 1014 was horrible. Toei got hacked and the show was on hiatus for 6 weeks!
Kyoheitowle
2023-01-22 14:23:37 +0000 UTC
people forget that the only people ace ever lost to are end game villains (akainu, Blackbeard etc) he was always really strong
Brendon
2023-01-22 13:46:21 +0000 UTC
it more being raised has son and becoming a boy instead of a girl which yamato himself wants to be too. the oden bit is more of being wanting to be free
Master Oogway
2023-01-22 12:23:46 +0000 UTC
sanji has the best observation haki out of the monster trio, his range etc.
Master Oogway
2023-01-22 11:55:41 +0000 UTC
Not true, every character calls yamato Kaido’s son and yamato also uses the men’s baths, not really into the debate but it’s hillarious how people will just deny the source material.
Gladiuswingzero
2023-01-22 10:47:21 +0000 UTC
Kaido is a fucking Gyrados Ruff 😅
Kevin Ott
2023-01-22 08:52:29 +0000 UTC
oh I know he is a straight dragon I'm just sayin oda made his devil fruit relate to that old folk tale or whatever its called not that kaido is actually a fish or anything
RexWitty
2023-01-22 08:25:56 +0000 UTC
Nah, dragons in Japanese mythology are a form of fish. Kaido didn't swim up a waterfall to get his dragon form.
I liked that theory too when this chapter came out, but he's just a straight dragon all the way.
Freshairkaboom
2023-01-22 08:20:44 +0000 UTC
Finally, Koido revealed
idziman
2023-01-22 06:44:37 +0000 UTC
this is true but he also is really strong remember he was the one who scar shanks face and that was before he had any ability
luis delgado
2023-01-22 06:39:17 +0000 UTC
i know ruff isnt readin comments right now but kaidos devil fruit is based of a japanese legend of a koi fish I think that swims up a waterfall and turns into an azure dragon. thats why kaido has the fish-fish fruit model: azure dragon so yea big mom gave kaido his devil fruit and this isnt a spoiler or anything just a fun fact
RexWitty
2023-01-22 06:17:10 +0000 UTC
you are completely correct he already clarify SHE is a girl, she just really admire oden it has nothing to do with gender
luis delgado
2023-01-22 05:52:37 +0000 UTC
Yamato literally explained how kaido lifted the island in the end of 1011... breh
Degenerick
2023-01-22 05:51:04 +0000 UTC
There is a japanese legend where a koi fish climbs a water fall and becomes dragon at the top. So people theorize that the fish fruit awakened into the dragon. Nothing is confirmed about it though.
Srutha Srinivasan
2023-01-22 05:28:19 +0000 UTC
I might be wrong and please dont attack me in the comments, but I believe that Oda tried to explain that Yamato identifying as Oden is a Oden thing not a gender thing. As such they have no issue with being called a daughter.
Nick Santos
2023-01-22 05:14:55 +0000 UTC
Ruff mentionned that Ace lost to BB because they were in the same crew but thats wrong. BB won because Black Vortex is CHEAT counters Devil Fruits so his Flame Emperor couldnt overpower the Darkness...Unfortunately. BB is a smart coward, the complete opposite of Luffy when you think about it haha :D
Pateckharu3
2023-01-22 04:42:27 +0000 UTC
Kaido is gyrados. All the mythic type fruits have a normal animal base that they are a model of. Like Marco is the bird-bird mythical model Phoenix and Catarina is the dog-dog mythical model Ninetailed Fox. Kaido is the fish-fish mythical model azure dragon. Because in Japanese myth a carp becomes a dragon after climbing 100 waterfalls. Like the waterfalls at Wano's entrance...
SuperDani
2023-01-22 04:27:18 +0000 UTC
In case you didn’t notice in marco flashback to ace. Ace said that he want to make the land of wano a place where you can eat as much you want and never get hungry …. Essentially word’to word what luffy told tama at the beginning of the arc 🥰
Michel
2023-01-22 04:17:31 +0000 UTC
its kaidos fruit, a carp become a dragon once he climbed a waterfall in a japanese legend
Relaxio 420
2023-01-22 03:56:00 +0000 UTC
for those who dont get the name behind Kaido's fruit, theres an myth (I think it's a Chinese or Japanese myth correct me if im wrong) that if a koi fish swims up a waterfall it turns into a dragon when it reaches the top as a reward from the gods for its strength and determination. That myth is where Kaido's devil fruit comes from. It's the Fish Fish Fruit Mythical type Model: Azure Dragon
The pokemon Gyarados is a good example because it evolves from Magikarp (which comes from that legend)
KaitouKay1412
2023-01-22 03:53:33 +0000 UTC
Ruff you like Pokémon think about magic carp and what he evolves into and you can figure out who ate the fish fish fruit
Jason Mazurenko
2023-01-22 03:49:23 +0000 UTC
Kaido was the one who ate the fish fish fruit. think of it as Magicarp evolving into Gyarados it has to deal with Japanese culture with fish becoming dragons in some way if my memory serves right.
kknitro
2023-01-22 03:29:47 +0000 UTC
Its kaidos fruit, oda has bad naming sense lol.
matt
2023-01-22 03:23:14 +0000 UTC
Thanks for the drops!
Levy
2023-01-22 03:19:29 +0000 UTC
Thank you Ruff! Didn't expect to get all these eps today! Gonna watch the 1015 one next!
godUsoland
2023-01-22 02:48:16 +0000 UTC
Finally able to catch up again on reactions been so busy with life stuff and watching the odyssey playthroughs!