Tim Walz & JD Vance Debate: Election Denial, Abortion Subterfuge, and Preemptive Strikes - EMN AD-FREE
Added 2024-10-04 19:03:04 +0000 UTCHi. On today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan discuss the vice presidential debate, Israel's invasion of Lebanon, and the devastation left in the wake of Hurricane Helene. Plus, Katy tells a ghost story.
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I don't belive that Katie is MAGA. I feel like that's a reductive statement used to shut down discourse. However, the devils advocate can be an annoying stance. Especially because these last 8 years has been filled with How to reach across the aisle ?, How to talk to your MAGA family ?, How to understand the other side ?, etc. The unending empathy detracts from voters that are feeling under valued and ignored. One of the biggest complaints about Democrats/Left is that they would rather be the nice guy than do something. No one wants anyone's feeling meanwhile Minorities, Women, Black People ( I separated this for a reason). Suffer and become disillusioned with Democracy.
olivia calbro
2024-10-10 16:25:07 +0000 UTCPersonally I agree with how Katy talks about Vance. He performed well on the debate stage. I wonder if his unpleasant reputation is just exclusive to online spaces. I definitely see his chameleon nature as a threat to us, whereas I had underestimated him before.
Hector
2024-10-09 04:01:02 +0000 UTCLook, clearly there was no ghost moving Katie's luggage around. That's just plain silly. Clearly she's just force-adept.
Matt Pierce
2024-10-08 18:52:54 +0000 UTCI'm too tired to explain in details but I appreciate Katy very much and I love that she's always trying to be balanced in sharing her opinion, representing the opinion of others, and searching for every inch of common ground we can find. 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
Kim
2024-10-08 15:54:46 +0000 UTCas someone who lived in the area of louisiana heavily impacted by katrina and other massive storms that have hit there since then, hearing people (not y'all, to be clear, but SO MANY public figures) so determined to show their asses in the wake of helene is really something. like, people like to act like katrina was a turning point in everyone's awareness, but so many prominent people refused to learn a goddamn thing. which i more or less expect at this point, but FUCK 🫠
Nina VanHeeswijk
2024-10-07 05:19:28 +0000 UTCI know that Katie said frequently that she will be a maga supporter for her statements of why Vance said the right thing when admitting that women have been abused, but it is never a good idea to accept a whitewashing or a bold-faced lie. It seem that it is her stance it is better to allow him to lie for the purpose of feeling good than it is to have to hold him accountable or to force people to not hear a lie and deal with a direct reality. Why are we wasting our patreon dollars and podcast time on a wishful congratulation for a falsehood?
Server Rav
2024-10-07 02:38:56 +0000 UTCGenerally I don't mind Katy playing devil's advocate, but this week was a serious misstep. I understand how you could think that it's best for the USA if everyone says that women shouldn't be abused and shouldn't have to get abortions out of pragmatism, but *he's lying*. He wants it to be *worse* than it is now. He wants those people to have *no option but to stay in an abusive relationship*. Him paying lip service to a world in which that's verboten just makes it harder for regular people to figure out that his party needs to be eradicated. You know what both sides of the USA's politics agree on? That America is the Land of the Free, that taxes are bad, that the confederates lost the civil war. These things being so obvious and agreed upon that they don't need to be discussed just makes it harder to actually push for progress.
Alex White
2024-10-06 19:58:53 +0000 UTCI do wish it didn't feel like Katy got attacked every time she pointed out how something might seem to people not constantly online. Like yes, we know Vance is a see you next Tuesday, but most people who aren't as politically aware, or don't have a job focused on politics, do not have the same level of knowledge.
Chazzaroo
2024-10-06 11:10:50 +0000 UTCI THINK I get Katie's point: toning down the rhetoric is a good in itself. Obama deported like a mf but his choice not to dehumanize migrants DID make a difference. Also, changing rhetoric because it's unpopular to be awful is proof that public pressure can be effective and an invitation to apply more pressure.
Fernando Rosales
2024-10-05 22:47:45 +0000 UTCFor me, the thing that bothered me most about what Vance said about abortion is the phrase "they *felt like* they didn't have any other options." He's trying to sound like he understands that there are legitimate reasons one might need an abortion (aside from wanting one), but the phrasing betrays his real thoughts. Women get abortions, he's implying, not because they have no other options, but because they *feel like* they have no other options. That's what he means when he says the party needs to "earn women's trust back." He's not saying they need to do better for women, he's saying they need to do a better job of convincing women that motherhood is their best option.
Jackie Weatherbee
2024-10-05 20:50:03 +0000 UTC
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