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The Gun Control Debate Again, Still, Again w/ Billy Wayne Davis And Robert Evans - New episode of Even More News with No Ads!

Hi. Here's a conversation about about guns, again. 

The Gun Control Debate Again, Still, Again w/ Billy Wayne Davis And Robert Evans - New episode of Even More News with No Ads!

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No, Robert's point is MOAR GUNS. That is always Robert's point. Every phrasing and point of discussion is to support that and he is well-versed in the arguments. His nitpicking per "not a loophole" and "not on purpose" is denying the reality of accepting any compromise per guns. Anyone who wants to get a gun will get a gun AS LONG AS GUNS ARE SO WIDELY AVAILABLE. Which Robert is never going to bring up. Every suggestion he has per laws he knows will not really stop HIM from getting guns, so he accepts that argument. I myself don't care at all about guns. Keep them or destroy them. Who cares? But when you bring someone on who is a strong advocate for guns and you don't have anyone prepared for the argument in the reverse, it isn't educational or informative. It is propaganda that is being allowed to be delivered unopposed.

John Hall

Loophole implies that it is not intentional (or at least not the purported purpose), which was Robert’s point. One might call it a loophole that you can cross state lines to avoid laws, but a law expressly permitting face to face sales without background checks is not a loophole.

AlaskanWeeb

Two mass shootings in two weeks? America's opening back up again!

Nate

Hah yeah the "not a loophole" speech kinda smelled of BS to me. It *is* a loophole of only certain states allow you to avoid certain regulations via their laws. Fair point that gun classification is fucked up tho - I see it used as a deflection constantly.

Nate

The problem w/ Robert talking per some of these things is that he always speaks authoritatively as a person who "knows guns". This tends to shut down conversations except to educate people per guns. Robert also tends to assume the law is what it is and cannot change. As well, Robert ALWAYS turns the statements around to fit a pro-gun narrative. Neither Katy nor Codie are "armed", if you will, for this discussion so his framing stands unquestioned.

John Hall


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