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Voregence
Voregence

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my plans

currently im in the process of shifting where my content in located. it might take awhile but im hoping it pans out because honestly if my stuff keeps getting stolen Ive already made to decision to quit. I see no point in making a living off comics if people think it right to re upload my work

so to the people that are importing my uploads, you'll single handedly be the reason I stop making the content you feel you have the right to redistribute. seeing as you already have no moral compass i doubt it will matter so..i give my career..6 more months before i crash and burn XD

its been fun, i hope thats not what happens but ive already promised myself id either end my career than have people step on me

Comments

Same here!

Ryan Prymak

I didn't mean to imply that people sharing art intended to be shared outside of Patreon are the issue. Just to say that if you had to make a choice to maintain your ability to support yourself, go for it. If the rest of us are lucky, we'll get to see your work without your financial stability at risk. Your point below about the marketing value your free stuff is very true. Thought I'd add that here and not on another post.

hippiewerewolf

It is very disappointing that people do these things without a care in the world. We all support on these.

Termlnator

darn thats rough, ill still continue to support you because i like your work

Ansemik

Reposting*

Takaaki Ryuhaara

If worst comes to worst, I'll miss you :( , I love everything you do and I hate that there are some that would clearly disregard your wishes by repeating your hard work.

Takaaki Ryuhaara

I actually rely a lot of people re uploading my public work. its like free marketing. however if its stuff that isnt public and I only have 350 supporters but my comics are world wide even in other languages, its easy to see why id feel discouraged here

Voregence

fact of the matter is if i went back to doing commission work I would be making way more than I am atm. it has nothing to do with people reposting public content. its the people that are aware THIS PAGE is my lively hood and its being stolen from me. im very aware my comics are EEEEEEVERYwhere. it makes me smile sometimes i cant lie, but when the people who love and claim to "support" me actively make a choice to distribute paywalled content that effects this part of my business in a large way. large enough that it makes me re think what would be better long turn financially. and in a world where money and being respected is priority, I need to consider my options

Voregence

I beleive you shouldn't count on the internet at large to not spread your art, and if your livelihood is threatened, do what you need to do. ⁣ I apologize for putting this in 3 separate messages. I kept hitting enter to line break and it almost submitted it in chunks.

hippiewerewolf

Doing commission work is a way to more directly control the distribution of your art, because one cannot just simply copy-paste the time you spent on a commission, which is what's being paid for.

hippiewerewolf

I might be shooting myself in the foot when I say this. Once something is on the internet, it's out there. There is a non-zero chance the art you post even behind a paywall is being viewed before it's released to the general public.

hippiewerewolf

i know... buts all i can do :/

Beladinon

it doesnt have anything to to with you <3 this is a much larger issue than one person. I appreciate every SINGLE. PERSON. HERE. but its becoming taxing (mentally) knowing how little control i have over my own piece most the time. its not easy dealing with the entirety of the internet as one person haha

Voregence

switched a tier up to give you a better feeling and hope you stay (and maybe some people will follow)

Beladinon

I'm feeling a bit sad you feel you can't rely on me. :/ i hope i can support you for a much longer while here, because i'm a fan of your work and not one of this thousand soulless viewers on the great wide internet.

Beladinon

you are a 1 out of 100 people that would do that, i cant count of kind people like yourself most times. consider that i have 4 paywalled pages ATM and THOUSANDS of people have seen it already without consent, yet I have 350 paid supporters? Im not a greedy person, however its angering to know many people thik and make a choice to view my paywalled content knowing full well im losing money because of the uploads. instead of reporting it or filing a take down, they just view it, and share it, where as I get nothing in return for my hours of work. its belittling to say the least. as if im a machine most see as worthless

Voregence

hm for my case...most time i see good comics floating around the web search for the artist, find the patreon and join to support and get track on the artist. its very likely i'm here for month now because i have stumbled about one of your paypwalled comic around the internet and decided you do great work. yes i don't like people stealing things and stuff but it could be also attract people to come here and support you. it would be sad if i can't support you because you decide to leave (and i will loose tract of you work because i think you really do some rare niche work i really like) :/

Beladinon

Its a damn shame that people do that! All the best in any case, I'll try to keep up with wherever you go in all liklihood

Navar44

it would be. but thats the reality when artist are given little control or respect towards their own art. specially with AI being so prevalent now, with art stolen ontop of that, it isn't exactly encouraging

Voregence

so people really quit here while content is leaked anywhere else? (this would be sad)

Beladinon

yes. with my art being distributed without my knowing or consent thats theft. my paywalled content and promotes the need to support me has been stolen from me. my means of income is being stolen from me which defeats the purpose of paying a percentage of my wages to a site to protect my work. thats like paying for security but they let whoever they want in without concern, im paying for security but im not getting it, so why bother

Voregence

then I quit : P like i said if it keeps happening and i dont have control over my own creations than i stop creating. if they keep doing it than I stop. simple as that. i have zero issue moving back into a commission artist instead of comic artist

Voregence

Hmm do you really feel you loose money because your art get uploaded to other places? for my part i support people because i think they make good art and i want them to make more good art. is this effort in switching really worth the trouble?

Beladinon

How will migrating to a new place stop people stealing/reuploading your stuff though? Whoever is doing it will just continue on the new site?

Roxils

I'd migrate to support you. In regards to stopping what is basically fraud, it is a massive undertaking, believe me. The best way to counter it would be to lessen their attack vector. For example, moving the files to a more secure or access required repository is a good step in the right direction. Preventing the ability to download imagine is another option. Keeping images and comics locked to the website or domain so tou can only scroll to view. Another option I found would be to disable "right-clicking" for a website if you had your own created. This would prevent people from doing "Right click -> Save as" or "Open image in new tab". Unfortunately, none of this is particularly easy to accomplish and you can't stop all fraud but you can certainly reduce the impact by making it harder. Making it so they can't get the highest quality of work.

Joseph Williams

If I can I will follow! No need to remain stressed out using this platform. Sucks that it has to happen in the first place.

Dragoon

in my mind its also pathetic. I feel like these people see themselves as tiny martyrs of justice like "i pay so you dont have to because why should we" as if steeling from someone is justifiable

Voregence

Id migate to support you.. it sounds so dejecting having your work stollen over and over again, stay strong we wanna support you!

Kenwood _

and i will adore you for that. <3

Voregence

I'll definitely migrate to the new platform.

Loxley


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