INMATE #12158 in Court
Added 2024-07-23 22:47:11 +0000 UTC
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So, just after the verdict announced, inmate has to bow as sign of agreement. After that she stays at same place, but the court guards gives control over her to another transfer team from med-sec block. She feels the differense immediately - she is forced to bend even in the court room, hands shackled behind her back, she is led out of the court room.
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 11:42:26 +0000 UTCCool π
Raoul
2024-07-24 11:21:04 +0000 UTCYes, only for these sensitive inmates
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 11:01:16 +0000 UTCJust before the court session the hat is changed to helmet with gag ==> I wouldn't see it as standard but option
Raoul
2024-07-24 10:57:55 +0000 UTCRight. Justice works effectively, humanely and fairly.
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 10:42:05 +0000 UTCAbsolutely right. The inmate is transfered by foot (about 25 minutes with all locking hubs and security posts). Going bent in chains, finally placed in court HC and dressed in court overcoat and hat. Just before the court session the hat is changed to helmet with gag.
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 10:38:38 +0000 UTCOkay, can agree, but then the court session needs to be in a bit more remote building or wing of CDF with less security measures, so that a specific uniform and helmet would make sense. I assume that court trials are not only to sentence and degrade inmates but also to offer a spectacle to a wider (but selected) audience, to show to the 'public' that justice is working well...
Raoul
2024-07-24 10:33:51 +0000 UTCI would prefer it to be dress for short court sessions inside CDF.
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 10:26:08 +0000 UTCOkay, now it's me who got it. Then forget my proposal. So we can consider this grey coat as personal, maybe prepared in advance of the court session with some status marks... Just to know: is it a dress only for the session or for transport, too?
Raoul
2024-07-24 10:21:09 +0000 UTCOh, I got it. I just thought that overy dress or even overgarment are personal at CDF system. So, all visits and hearings are planned far ahead to arrange everythingThatβs why it takes so long The only thing provided by the court - is helmet. And numbers one the sleeves are not bands - I remember that you do not like bands))
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 09:59:35 +0000 UTCCould be, but my concern was more on exchangeability of numbers on a court dress, but yes, until been transferred back to CDF, wich can take a while, inmate would be marked and identified according to her new status.
Raoul
2024-07-24 09:52:32 +0000 UTCOk, so after the verdict the number will be changed to another color immediately?
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 09:47:05 +0000 UTCYes, I meant
Raoul
2024-07-24 09:45:50 +0000 UTCDo you mean chest imprint of number?
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 09:40:08 +0000 UTCI guess the same as with the armbands... you choose blue ground with grey letters here, but could have been yellow on blue or orange on blue (for inmates exceeding now the max terms for low sec towards medium or high). If she was a service inmate it would have been green and so on...
Raoul
2024-07-24 09:01:33 +0000 UTCGreat! What options do we have here?
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 08:55:50 +0000 UTCMaybe one idea about uniform design... I think she already wears armbands with her inmate number. It could be a nice detail to try to make her chest imprint to a velcro tag with a colour code depending on her so-far or future security status
Raoul
2024-07-24 08:54:15 +0000 UTCAwesome. Thank you! π₯π₯
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 08:46:16 +0000 UTCI think so. Might be a bit tight, but who cares π
Raoul
2024-07-24 08:43:50 +0000 UTCSo it is wearable over normal uniform?? Great π₯π₯
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 08:38:55 +0000 UTCOvergarment
Raoul
2024-07-24 07:39:53 +0000 UTCExactly. And the dress is a special overpayment from Aramide/Kevlar fibres, hardly to be destroyed by normal cutting or thrusting objects. It's also padded, so less injuries in case of trying to fall down the stairs
Raoul
2024-07-24 07:39:32 +0000 UTCVery hot. The guards were instructed about it and changed the standart hat to this helmet just before wntering the courtroom.
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 07:33:06 +0000 UTCYes, maybe not 'voice is not necessary' because inmates must not talk when not asked for report. But this inmate might have had an mental outbreak before and needs to be protected against herself, because she will get sn additional sentence of several years
Raoul
2024-07-24 07:30:22 +0000 UTCYes, she is alredy inside CDF and serving her sentence. So, this may be some additional hearing where her βvoiceβ is not necessary.
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 07:24:28 +0000 UTCOkay, but then we need to talk about several options π π - is inmate already inmate and should know 'how to behave' or is he/she still first-time-defendant? - we have already defendant uniforms. This one looks rather robust as for violent prisoner...
Raoul
2024-07-24 07:21:08 +0000 UTCI see it as helmet with thick foam and gag inside that inmate is forced to wear before entering the court
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 07:15:40 +0000 UTCBut I do not like spitting too. And every inmate od CDF knows it is a serious violation
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 07:13:46 +0000 UTCOh no. Pictogram is great. And the visor hat is exactly what pictogram means
Raoul
2024-07-24 07:12:12 +0000 UTCBut of course, it's humiliating what officers can do with inmates
Raoul
2024-07-24 07:10:24 +0000 UTCNot mine too) I meant just silenced inmate) should change the pictogram))
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 07:10:15 +0000 UTCI like it, too, but if it would come (one uncertain day) to a story about a courtroom scene, it wouldn't be a story about me/ my inmate wearing such a garment. Spitting around is not in 'my character'
Raoul
2024-07-24 07:09:04 +0000 UTCOt is just a concept, but I like this humiliating idea)
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 06:54:15 +0000 UTCSpecial cases need Special solutions π It's not priority part of my passions, but nice complementary aspect π
Raoul
2024-07-24 06:33:59 +0000 UTCJust a fantasy) do you like it?
Garry Nivel
2024-07-24 06:10:14 +0000 UTCGood morning. Surprising concept πβ€οΈ
Raoul
2024-07-24 05:32:47 +0000 UTC
