Rogue-Like 0.994e (working on some things. . . )
Added 2021-06-08 18:40:10 +0000 UTCDo Not Download, I cannot stress that enough. This version is likely riddled with issues and should only be downloaded by those interested in testing and breaking things to figure out what went wrong. Later versions will be more stable and playable and fun for people who just want to play the game, so give it at least a few days if that's what you're here for.
For those that do download it, if you get any crashes, please report them in this thread, or PM me with them if you prefer. There will be an initial part to the crash report, and then it will say "Full Traceback" and there will be what is typically a longer part. I don't *usually* need that info and it can make the thread longer, so you can clip that portion out unless I ask for it, but the first bit is important for tracking things down. Try and keep a save from a bit before the error occurred if you can (save early and often), so we can test whether what I try next fixed the problem. Let me know whether the error occurred in a playthrough fresh to the new version or from a save from a previous version.
If an error occurs that does not cause a crash, the best way for me to track it down is to describe which type of scene this was, which characters were involved, and ideally the exact lines of dialogue that were said during or right before the error, because that will let me word search and pin down the exact line of code where things stopped working right. Much easier than trying to run through the entire scene looking for potential problems.
And of course feel free to just offer feedback and suggestions that are not "bugs," but just things that you think could be better.
Ok, things this version attempts to address (not including changes I've forgotten I made):
Some changes to how the clothing management system checks things that should give more accurate results. This applies when a character shows up somewhere (they should be in clothing appropriate to the room), or when they "fix" discarded clothes (they should end up in the outfit they were wearing, unless they give reason to believe otherwise). This was a messy process, so might have created new errors. Let me know what you see there.
Changed time management in the game a bit, travel time is currently set at 5% per room. I may adjust this. It occurs to me that Travel Mode is now a bit unbalanced against "Map Mode" travel, so I might need to further refine this, but play with it a bit.
Fixed a few crashes and issues where characters were entering or leaving scenes in ways that seemed weird.
Fixed an issue with being unable to change Storm's name from the menu.
Other stuff, probably.
Comments
Oh, I hadn't really considered that. The bikini is a single layer of clothing, and pantyhose are above panties, so I would need to put in some sort of specific exception there, but I get what you mean. This reminds me the first rule of game dev that I only really understood once I started, nothing happens automatically, no matter how "common sense," anything you don't specifically tell it to do, it won't do. I might do something about this, I'll have to consider whether the options are worth it.
Oni
2021-06-10 22:38:34 +0000 UTCK, thanks.
Oni
2021-06-10 22:36:01 +0000 UTCI have tried to make it so that there are no "bad ends," nothing absolutely permanent. If you are consistently awful, there can be some stacking "time outs" and you can greatly reduce some stats, and certain stat-ups are one-time only so it would take more grinding to recover from losses, but ultimately you should be able to work your way back from just about anything. I might at some point make that more of a specific activity, to win back baseline trust.
Oni
2021-06-10 22:35:51 +0000 UTCYes! You are here for an education!!! Do not allow harlot to distract you with their temptations!
Oni
2021-06-10 22:33:37 +0000 UTCIf the issue is what I think it is, I think it's related to some changes I made to how they change after a shower that might be placing girls into the world. I don't *think* it makes them permanently available, it just places them at a location in the world, but still, not intended. I changed the way view flipping in massage works too, it should just use the same "view shift" options as other activities.
Oni
2021-06-10 22:32:24 +0000 UTCI think there might be a bug with people appearing unexpectedly. Might have fixed that this build.
Oni
2021-06-10 22:21:27 +0000 UTCAlright. Well just an FYI. I got it to happen as early as day 2 with my tried and true shower method. Pressing the blue button displays "1" "Rogue", but everyone is around.
Powerline
2021-06-10 22:20:21 +0000 UTCI think the bookshelf just has money. The picture is in the desk. Just btw, I don't *think* there's a way to "break" this one, so long as you don't have the photo in your possession, you should be able to find it.
Oni
2021-06-10 22:20:11 +0000 UTCEmbrace the Gwen. . . Ok, so as for the button, you go into Special Menu and then go into McCoy's Lab. Sorry I wasn't more clear earlier, I hadn't been using the buttons in a while. It just says "blue button," btw, don't be looking around for a special icon or anything. It doesn't do much, just spits out some info you can tell me so I know what's happening better under the hood. I'm not seeing anything directly about the shower that would cause this, I think I'll need to see what the blue button turns up. It should just say "Rogue" if she's the only one you've met, if it says anyone else, backtrack until it doesn't and then let me know what happened in between. Actually, wait. I might have found something odd. I'll change it, see if that fixes it next build.
Oni
2021-06-10 22:13:04 +0000 UTCYep it's fixed in this version
Cain
2021-06-10 12:08:39 +0000 UTCNot sure if anything can be done about it, but the layering looks a tad off for Storm cloths, when a you have her wear just the bikini bottoms and the pantyhose, as the top flap of the bikini, that is ment to connect to the uppers ring, looks to dangle forwards but is behind the waist of the hose. As I said not sure if/what can be done or if it's just me, just looks a bit 'off'
Thrans
2021-06-10 05:27:47 +0000 UTCspeaking of girls appearing too early, since Jean appeared Storms appearance is a day earlier than normal, I got the notice event on day 9. So Storm's event occured on day 10, it functioned normally but she's naked at the podium due to some reason: https://files.catbox.moe/o1tp1l.png
Jelly
2021-06-10 03:56:04 +0000 UTChere's that bug of girls appearing too early, barring anything supernatural I'm not the one who had it occur, I can'tt tell you how it occurs but here it is: https://files.catbox.moe/3nx8dw.png I then proceeded to have it occur to me as well, Kitty does appear right after and stays but anyways hello Jean.. on day 7: https://files.catbox.moe/mhab0x.png
Jelly
2021-06-09 19:59:07 +0000 UTC[code] I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred. While running game code: SyntaxError: invalid syntax (game/Rogue_Chat.rpy, line 2109) Hopefully thats enough . Happens at night, in rogues room, trying to change her outfit after giving her the green nightgown dress.
Victor Dusk
2021-06-09 17:27:28 +0000 UTCIve been meaning to ask for a while and just kept forgetting, is it possible to irrevocably damage a relationship? if i dump a girl to pursue another will i permanently loose any content with girl one for instance? Or can all things be repaired? I really enjoy running through each new release, but i always end up going similar routes, without ever being a real jerk to any of them. For a concern over my time constraints and potentially loosing the girls. 0_o
Victor Dusk
2021-06-09 15:55:30 +0000 UTCOkay another thing I hit; When I catch Emma masturbating (as you do) I usually wank it at the same time, she didn't react to my benis being out then I moved onto touching her breasts. She said the dialogue she does when she sees your penis despite it being out the whole time.
Jelly
2021-06-09 12:01:24 +0000 UTCI personally don't know the values for each method, but I'd go with studying on your own. You can lock the door so people can't barge in, and unless you have the setting to have girls ask you permission to get off, you shouldn't get interrupted by most texts making the studying relatively quick, even if it is 3:1. Class requires mashing through dialogue of people coming, and going, as well as deciding if you are going to sit next to anyone. Rogue also has dialogue if you are sitting next to her and are close enough in your relationship I believe. Class can be done 2 times per day most days of the week (barring weekends). Where as in your room, you can study nonstop more or less in your room from beginning to end without risk of getting interrupted transitioning through areas.
D0ugi3
2021-06-09 06:24:46 +0000 UTCAlright. After a nap and some more detective work. I'm pretty sure the Shower is the culprit. If you use the shower at any point before all girls are introduced, it unlocks all of them. The waters at the institute are so pure.. It cleanses the game of your roadblocks and frees the girls from the coded cells to frolick about lol. Neo confirmed as the next character?
Powerline
2021-06-09 05:48:20 +0000 UTCI should ask: whats better: fill hour at class or study 3 times on my own?
Makedar
2021-06-09 03:23:05 +0000 UTCApparently people are running into girls before introductions and or even well before you're supposed to. Found this too right off the hop, I'm massaging Rogue and flipping her poses but it refuses to flip to her missionary and does nothing when I click it: https://files.catbox.moe/s2d6vi.png
Jelly
2021-06-09 02:50:32 +0000 UTCSo I just did Jean's intro on day 9 and went to the Danger Room and saw Kitty with Storm, even though I haven't done Storm's intro or even had the water leak prompt yet.
Cain
2021-06-09 02:44:16 +0000 UTCHi, i have all girls max out. All things buyed, but for some reason i cant seem to get the picture to bribe Xavier with Kitty. I search his office and got a picture from the bookshelf but it isnt listed on the items and neither can i do the plan with Kitty. There's something im missing or is bugged and need to start all over?
Andres
2021-06-09 02:40:33 +0000 UTCWell big rip I'll look forward to that 995 if you plan on adding it at least. It'd just save a ton of time if a player likes one pose over the other tbh.
Jelly
2021-06-09 00:37:36 +0000 UTCI restarted a new game using this version.. Again. And immediately replicated the issue.... Because I didn't save the old one, BUT NOW I CAN STILL BE USEFUL. Day 3, teacher is teaching, K is sitting next to me in class, L is in the Danger room etc. Can interact with all of them, and no intro event has taken place. Unfortunately I don't see any 'Blue button' in the special menu in the room. This some super secret console command and I'm continuing to fail you or just broken? Don't worry.. I'll keep it as is this time until further instruction lol. Shame about Wanda though, she along with Rogue were my favorite character designs in Evolution. ( Edit: After doing a personal trouble shooting montage since it happened in the first few days. I think I've narrowed the problem down to utilizing the 'Shower' during the first 3? days. Perhaps some check happens there due to the random events and somewhere in there it simply forces all the girls to become active? IDK, but hopefully helpful. )
Powerline
2021-06-09 00:36:31 +0000 UTCDespight the blood scrifices Wanda has not been doing well in the polls, for some reason people keep voting Gwen Poole.
Thrans
2021-06-09 00:15:04 +0000 UTCOk, in this one it *should* fix it.
Oni
2021-06-09 00:09:09 +0000 UTCThat's quite odd. They shouldn't be appearing in any places until after you've met them. Do me a favor and go to your room, open the special menu, and hit the blue button. Are any girls on there that you haven't done the "meet" scene for yet? Wanda was one of the options for Girl 6, but got out-voted. We'll see what happens with Girl 7 in the fall.
Oni
2021-06-09 00:00:36 +0000 UTCI haven't tried this version as of yet, so I'll give it a go tonight and let you know if the issue is still there
Cain
2021-06-08 23:59:49 +0000 UTCEven on this version? Have you tried wandering around a bit?
Oni
2021-06-08 23:56:27 +0000 UTCJust for specific actions? Most of them should work at the moment, but some activities, like sex and anal, are not in at the moment and won't be for several months. There's a lot of new art that I'll need to do to add that stuff. It will be in 0.995.
Oni
2021-06-08 23:54:51 +0000 UTCSo i'm on day 66, met all of the girls and have progressed pretty far with all of them. I still haven't had any special event with Xavier or microtransactions. The option for it in the menu in the MC's room is also grayed out. Not sure what i'm missing.
Cain
2021-06-08 23:53:07 +0000 UTCNot yet, but that's my next project. ;) I did forget to point out that I fixed some of the issues involving auto-flipping, at least. ;)
Oni
2021-06-08 23:51:48 +0000 UTCjust wondering about storm sex menu it say "unavailable"? is that part of a bug or is that going to in the next update 0.995 or 0.996?
#Gamerforlife
2021-06-08 23:39:12 +0000 UTCHey Oni I'm a broken record but does the game remember last pose used so I don't have to click between them?
Jelly
2021-06-08 23:26:31 +0000 UTCWait, actually, that may not be necessary. I may have just found a bug that would prevent them being removed if they aren't actually in the room when you try it. :D Let's see if next version fixes that.
Oni
2021-06-08 22:56:32 +0000 UTCOk, so I'm not seeing an immediate exception. Here are some diagnostic things you can try. Use the buttons in the special menu. Make Jean go away, then hit the blue button. Jean should NOT be listed on that anymore. If you hit the yellow button, her name should appear though. Keep some saves in between events, and then if Jean shows up again, check the blue button, if she's there, step back through things and keep trying that blue button until she stops appearing again. Somewhere between there and when she first appears next is where the game is putting her back, and I need to figure out why.
Oni
2021-06-08 22:54:04 +0000 UTCI actually just started a new game just to run around using travel mode since you mentioned it. I always used Map. So I'm not sure if it's an on-going thing, but I had the issue of all of the ladies appearing in place BEFORE their intro event. Going through class, training in the danger room etc. Just going through their daily routine sort of thing. I didn't dodge any events either, went to class everyday expecting a certain someone to bump into me etc. The events still happened later, so just pointing that out. Also.. Related but unrelated. I'm kinda surprised Wanda isn't on deck yet. Thought she'd definitely be a popular grab from the series. Unless.. You're doing only actual... X-men first? A brotherhood route later? NEW SCHOOL OPTION? ... Maybe I just missed some posts, ignore this, but it's already infected your mind. Sorry not sorry.
Powerline
2021-06-08 22:51:46 +0000 UTCLet me double check that one, Jean might have exceptions. ;)
Oni
2021-06-08 22:45:02 +0000 UTCStill working on trying to narrow down that exhaustion bug (I have yet to see it happen again in a way that I can make note of) but I found a different thing weird thing. I tried to tell Prof X to get rid of a girl, in this case Jean, but she still keeps showing up everywhere. Something isn't firing correctly there. I actually asked him to do it twice but she's still making appearances.
hornguy6
2021-06-08 21:07:30 +0000 UTCThere aren't really any deliberate "trick" elements to getting girls to that point, I've just tried to set up the mechanics so that what feels good to them feels good to them and if you stack enough of those up, it can happen. I'm sure some players have figured out ways to min-max specific combinations to get there. Keep in mind that zero does not have to be actively fucking to get them to that state (or at least to get them close), so a little foreplay certainly wouldn't hurt. to the second point, that is odd. Literally the only requirements to launch the scene are "if it's past day 13 (ANY time past then), and basically "you haven't seen that event play yet." Once that triggers, it is literally impossible to skip the scene playing out, so you can't have missed it. If you check the special menu in your room, does it list the option to do microtransactions? Or is that option grayed out?
Oni
2021-06-08 20:03:46 +0000 UTCLol, the future is now!
Oni
2021-06-08 19:56:46 +0000 UTCHi Oni! Great job so far with the game! I've no ideea how it gets me hooked hours at a time. Two things: 1. Is there any strategy to getting the girls in the "exhausted / broken / ahegao" state? I feel like it's really hard to pull this off consistently. I've got all upgrades and most times Zero runs out of juice (literally) before they do. You also can't maintain this state consistently as when I try to change what we're doing, they'll exit the scene, saying they're exhausted. Any way to make the transition to "broken" state easier? Perhaps lower the number of times that they need to finish? I'm big on "ahegao" fan and I found this little add-in really fun! 2. I can't seem to be able to unlock the "microtransactions" secret. I'm definately way past day 14, I've got days where girl events do not happen and this doesn't trigger. I'm playing on a saved game that I'm moving in-between bug-fix versions. Do you think this would be an issue?
2021-06-08 18:58:33 +0000 UTC995... wow XD
Bogory
2021-06-08 18:44:02 +0000 UTC