Regarding 7$ tier and possible changes to Tiers
Added 2019-01-13 11:43:42 +0000 UTCHey there everyone. I opened the post to all patrons for the people who want some further information and not joined to the 7$ tier.
I'm sorry that this isn't a chapter update but please bear with me. I'd like to keep updates and questions like this to a minimum and focus on the story but sometimes stuff does come up.
After reviewing different Patreon creators, specifically based on RoyalRoad (or having started out there), I've grown to question the 7$ amount of the highest current tier.
I'll likely have quite a bit of time to focus on writing this summer and thought of possible steps to take before that. One of them is probably lowering the cost of the "All Chapters" tier to 5$.
I also plan to release a new 10$ tier (also in summer) with polls on side stories and access to them, Q/As and possibly other rewards. That is a long way off though.
The reason for this change is simply that the higher the cost, the lower the number of Patrons. I feel like I could increase the community interaction on Patreon and generally make it a more interesting environment for you to read in by simply lowering the 7$ tier to 5$. It's kind of impossible to tell how this will impact the money I'll earn but the price just seems more right to me. The 4$ tier would be deleted, as would the 7$ tier after all Patrons changed to the new 5$ one.
The reason for why I never mentioned this is simply because I didn't think about it much. This whole thing has grown incredibly in the past six months but so far I simply didn't have enough time with all the other things going on in my life to give it more of a priority.
Now I'm aware that a lot of you are here because there are more chapters to read and in the end that is what I would like to provide. Still, you are supporting me as a writer and in this relationship I'd like to be transparent with changes like this.
I understand that lowering the price might make you think I cheated you for the duration of it costing 7$ and I apologize for this. I could make up something about how the chapter economy has changed but it's just me thinking that perhaps 5 bucks is a more reasonable approach. I hope most of you aren't pissed about that. You would be paying less going forward, so there's at least that.
Do let me know what you think about this stuff in the comments and make sure to quickly go through the poll. Nobody can read minds (as far as I know), so give me some data. Multiple answers are allowed and encouraged.
Thanks for reading as always and for supporting me of course :). Apologies for rambling, at least it's not chapter length.
Comments
Thanks for the info and consideration :)!
G. Harthane
2019-01-21 18:37:15 +0000 UTCAs I’m currently giving 4/month this change will definitely mean I’ll switch to 5. The only reason I’m not currently on 7 is that I can’t afford it. So at least for me this means you’ll get more money. Don’t know how many others pay 4 but I think most of them will switch to 5.
mpop
2019-01-17 19:15:04 +0000 UTCYea, it's definitely a minus for me at the moment. Thanks for the input :)
G. Harthane
2019-01-17 17:23:47 +0000 UTCThat's the thing, it's super hard to say how people will react. I think posting more in general will lead to more Patrons and I intend to try and do that in summer. Thanks for the input :)
G. Harthane
2019-01-17 17:22:47 +0000 UTC[Warning: You have entered the Dungeon of Humor and Sarcasm, please facepalm accordingly] Based on my, admittedly poor and likely ineffectual General Skill: [Math] lvl 0.12 (too long unused and rusty high school math). More people voted on the joke answers (which are part of any good mathical math survey) than the other answers on the survey. From this study i must conclude that The Honorable and Heroic Ms. Spears is breaking the fourth wall....with her fists...nuff said...
SabreToothTortseshell
2019-01-16 13:12:42 +0000 UTCIf anything find something small to give to the original people who had the 7$ update as a ty I personally go with the you do you I'm unsure if dropping the amount would make you more money thou in the long run would have to do the math saving 2$ a month isnt much but if even if half of your patreons are 7$ then that's roulghy 300$ a month will you gain the 60 more patreons to make up for it.
dakota downey
2019-01-15 23:15:43 +0000 UTCIf you're adding a $10 tier then 2, 5, & 10 would be simpler than 2, 4, 7, & 10. I doubt $2 is gonna change too many minds, but you don't want to look like you're nickel and diming patrons. Honestly I think the best thing you could do to increase patrons is to post individual chapters 2-3 times a week rather than 2-3 chapters once a week.
Alan McBrayer
2019-01-14 21:19:21 +0000 UTCI think 7$ is quite fine for the content and quality that you give us. The thing is... I’m quite thigh on the money front. So yay for the change I guess? Then again, depending on what you give the 10$ tier, I might just have to tighten my belt and just go for it.
Darcy Lessard-Patola
2019-01-14 19:41:51 +0000 UTCThat makes me feel pretty fucking good mate :). I'm glad you found it to be so engaging. This is exactly how I felt when I found a cool novel and it makes me incredibly happy to be able to inspire such a reaction. I've started to really enjoy writing and with the expectations of a couple thousand people I don't see myself stopping anytime soon. Thank you!
G. Harthane
2019-01-14 16:10:51 +0000 UTCAbout 10$ patrons, I think it's a good idea for people who want to get more involved in this world.
2019-01-14 15:18:59 +0000 UTCI really don't mind for change prices. I love this story, and i wanna support you, but i guess a lot of people would be happy to see the price go down. English isn't my first language and i really like your writing style. Thx for all! (Greetings from Russia)
2019-01-14 12:50:43 +0000 UTCWhatever enables/encourages you to keep writing, I'm in for the long hall. I am so in, that I started to reading your story when I was on holiday in Canada, then on the plane, expressly bought the in-flight wifi, just so I could keep reading your novel for the next 10 hours.
Terry Stevens
2019-01-13 22:53:58 +0000 UTCI love voting for 'smash some shit' and then finding out that it has the most votes. lol
Corwin Amber
2019-01-13 19:16:15 +0000 UTCwhatever.
Zachary Smith
2019-01-13 17:28:51 +0000 UTCI think $5 is significantly better. I’ve been switching tiers a bit because I want to support you but think $7 is a bit much. At the same time it’s much more engaging to read the story at the most recent chapter.
Chymor
2019-01-13 17:16:38 +0000 UTCI appreciate that :) Thank you.
G. Harthane
2019-01-13 16:29:55 +0000 UTCI think 5$ is fine. Always keep in mind that the patreons have to pay VAT on that as well ;) The 7$ was ok for me too, but I got a job and no longer a filthy leeching student :P
Endoria
2019-01-13 15:17:34 +0000 UTCI honestly didnt see anything wrong with what im paying since i like the story and i want to support you. Whatever the new top tier is ill likely change to it. Cheers!
SabreToothTortseshell
2019-01-13 14:38:48 +0000 UTCThank you for the opinion and of course for reading. Focus on food and shelter first before you invest into webnovels though :D!
G. Harthane
2019-01-13 14:31:53 +0000 UTCThe poll option would only be about side stories accessible only for a higher tier, at least that's what I think of doing right now. It's still some time off until I can actually start on that. This poll here was directed at only the 7$ patrons. Normal story related polls would be for everyone of course. I agree on the part about e-books, especially considering you usually get more out of it than the hundred or so pages I write per month (for now at least).
G. Harthane
2019-01-13 14:28:42 +0000 UTCThank you :). I hope I'll be able to make it worthwhile for you. I likely won't be able to work on additional rewards until summer sadly.
G. Harthane
2019-01-13 14:26:10 +0000 UTCThanks for the comment. I know this might be the case for many and lowering the price might not mean more patrons but as I said, it feels right after talking to some people and thinking about it for a while.
G. Harthane
2019-01-13 14:25:21 +0000 UTCAsh does not contain carbon. It's all been burnt out.
Phaeth
2019-01-13 13:58:47 +0000 UTCI'll most likely end at the 5$ tier because I'm somewhat short on money but reading is really important. In the end I'm just happy to get things cheaper ^^
2019-01-13 13:47:48 +0000 UTCwe all got tiny child inside of us, and this is one those moments where it just runs a round like crazy :P
j0ntsa
2019-01-13 13:43:16 +0000 UTCHow far off until she can crush ash into coal, and then into diamonds? Who wants a cone of fire breath attack, when you can have a cone of diamonds breath attack? Cone of Ash breath attack, oh god. That would look so disgusting.
Bob
2019-01-13 13:17:46 +0000 UTC"Multiple answers are allowed and encouraged." *Immediately acts immature*
TheTiredOne
2019-01-13 13:11:42 +0000 UTCI think given how low the prices for finished e-books are usually that, 5$ is a more reasonable price for advanced capters. While stuff like adding a mentioned char or credits at the end of a finished e-book, can be much more expensive. Participation in polls (if you want to go that route should actually be already available at a pretty low costs. As Polls can help to make the overall story better so the more people participate the more you can get out of a poll. A poll with just 20 hier tier patrons participating, might be a lot less helpful for you then a poll with 200 or so of the mid and high tier patrons participating.
Han Pol
2019-01-13 12:35:36 +0000 UTCI was missing an option like "I literally couldn't give less of a shit whether it's 5, 7 or 15$, just post more chapters. You fuck."
Eldar Kersebaum
2019-01-13 12:28:57 +0000 UTCEven if you change it I'm still gonna give 7-10$ since I like the story
Nathanuel Vine
2019-01-13 12:03:54 +0000 UTCThanks for the heads up! I really enjoy the story and consider anything around 5-10$ / month reasonable. Not sure I would be interested in the additional rewards so it might mean a lower pledge from me compared to the current amount but if you get more patreons from it then go for it!
Magnus Benzein
2019-01-13 11:57:48 +0000 UTC