Tommy was the one sitting with multiple girls at the beginning of the episode. Coupled with the comments from the other kid, he seems to be the one one the other boys were following after and listening to.
Also, sooo many references to the creepy history teacher also being on board with the Andrew Tate crap. He evades Bascombs questions, Adam looks into his class nervously before talking to his dad, plus all of the other things about him.
Angie Person
2025-05-02 04:09:56 +0000 UTC
Appreciate it JosipππΏ, make sure you check the collection tab to see if there's anything else here you would like to watch
Raymond Walker
2025-04-02 18:18:04 +0000 UTC
I just watched your Reaction for the first episode and I loved it so much and I have to come here on patreon to watch your full length reaction
Josip BuretiΔ
2025-04-02 17:46:35 +0000 UTC
Thank you for highlighting so many details that can be overlooked. And as for Adam vs Jamie, I don't think one is good and one bad -- I think sometimes, for various reasons, one child will be more susceptible to influence. Jamie is an easier target than Adam. I loved the end where Adam's dad realizes this could easily happen to his son and makes the time to spend with him. Hopefully, in this fictional world, his dad will continue to strengthen that bond.
Melissa
2025-04-01 18:10:18 +0000 UTC
The teacher casually dropping that she hears the boys talking about Andrew Tate, meanwhile the cops thinking Katie is the bully...sigh (not a spoiler, just my personal take on things)
ali
2025-04-01 17:18:54 +0000 UTC
Can't wait to get your thoughts on ep3 in particular, you are in for a FEAST, especially with your mental healthcare background!!
ali
2025-04-01 15:58:55 +0000 UTC
You asked if this series was based on a true story, and tbh, it's based on multiple. Ava White's case is one example, if you want to Google it.
ali
2025-04-01 15:28:07 +0000 UTC
It's interesting to me to watch both the in-character and audience reactions to Jade in this episode, because it speaks volumes about the brilliance of the social commentary this show is doing.
If you pay close attention, there's a difference between how the women/girls and men/boys are treated.
With Jade, she's abruptly pulled from her meal while grieving, and treated distantly and clinically. Like many young girls (especially young black girls), she's adultified and expected to be calm, cool, collected, and rational while being asked questions that the detectives don't even realize are invasive and insulting to Katie's memory.
Meanwhile, Ryan is pulled from a chaotic fire drill to a calm environment and coddled. The teacher handed Jade right over, but gives a small protest ("but he'll be with the nurse right now") before allowing the detectives to speak to Ryan. The detective chats with him, tries to connect with him in a way he never tried to with Jade (particularly about masculinity - Ryan being particularly interested in how popular the detective was at school, and how successful with women).
Meanwhile, in the background, we see the teacher forget the female detective's name and forget to introduce her. We see a male teacher irritated about new safety procedures, while a female teacher worries about the children's mental health. A single female teacher is the only one who tries to comfort Jade.
Detective Bascombe, despite his best attempts to be a good dad, still is a bit disconnected from his son. The missed calls, him being unaware that his son is being bullied (which Jade pokes at - hinting at her distrust of the adults being able to keep her and her friends safe).
It mirrors the disconnect with Jamie in ep1, where his dad, Eddie, doesn't remember his son is scared of needles. His mom needs to remind him.
It really goes to show that even in good families, red pill influence can infect a kid.
Adam is also clearly aware of red pill stuff but hasn't bought into it. He's bullied, like Jamie, but hasn't resorted to misogyny or violence. He's a good kid. Between Bascombe, Eddie, & even Jade's mom (who sounds like possibly an overworked single parent), it really highlights how difficult parenting is in this day & age even for the most well-meaning parents, and how fast paced social media is & how adults don't even understand the language their kids are using or the ever shifting social and political factors in their lives.
There's so many brilliant little details to this show.
ali
2025-04-01 14:04:20 +0000 UTC
I hear you friend I'm in a similar boat..I graduated 2012 so we barely had a grasp on what texting and shit like that was so It wasn't anything like this can't imagine having a young impressionable mind going to school in these times π
Raymond Walker
2025-03-31 07:30:32 +0000 UTC
It's been over 10 years since I was in high school in the UK. I'm from the Yorkshire area. While I personally didn't see it being this bad, probably because phones and stuff weren't the norm until my last 3 years there, I can definitely see why it got this way. When I was in year 7 (which is the first year of high school), I would be extremely respectful and scared of those in higher years and I never disrespected my teachers. We had a couple of wrong'uns, but nothing to this extent. I genuinely think, in the last 2 years of my time at high school, I could see the shift starting to happen. Year 7s were becoming menaces who were bullying Year 9s and stealing Year 10 kids' footballs. Behaviour was worsening, but not to the extent shown here. I would say that since 2019, just before the pandemic, shit was getting bad. Then the pandemic hit and it worsened a TON. I would never act like these kids, and the majority of my year would never.
NiamhVT
2025-03-31 06:05:43 +0000 UTC
And they let that Tate creep back into the US...π‘
ArcAngel
2025-03-30 19:15:04 +0000 UTC
Sorry you experienced that Hugo π«
Raymond Walker
2025-03-30 13:59:35 +0000 UTC
I went to a UK school and this is a very accurate depiction of the one I went to that sometimes I had to pause and take a break from this episode because misogyny and misbehaviour and so much else runs rampant and it hasnβt really changed (I finished secondary school or high school five years ago but yeah itβs definitely bad unfortunately) sending love Taco another great reaction itβs such an important show and subject matter although heartbreaking and hard to watch. Ashley Walterβs who plays DI Bascombe and Stephen Graham who plays the dad are acting legends in the UK β€οΈ but everyone is amazing, Erin Doherty too who is in the next episode is just an incredibly good actor too!
Hugo
2025-03-30 13:44:25 +0000 UTC
There were 7th and 8th graders in my school shaving their heads like Tate. They kept a lot of their comments quiet, but there was a group who clearly admired and followed them. And admin did nothing. Maybe they couldn't, I don't know, but this virus is so so real. After watching this whole series, I kept thinking about Jamie & I realized the character reminded me of a kid I had when he was in 7th grade. This will make more sense once you get to know more about Jamie. This was two years ago. It is still a huge problem that is feeding on young men.
Melissa
2025-03-30 12:28:38 +0000 UTC
as someone from ireland, my school life was very different to this but i have friends who went to schools where this is almost an exact replica of what it was like - my dad also did his teacher training over in england before coming back home and he even said this is very eerily similar to what he experienced over there