Episode 84: Frederick Joseph, As Himself, In: The McKaren Park Karen, And An Interview With Paige Harden About Genetics (Early Access, Ad-Free)
Added 2021-10-01 01:58:38 +0000 UTCFrederick Joseph is the unluckiest man in New York City: After dealing with a Satanic AirBnB host, a racist woman on the street, and racist editors and producers, he is the victim of the latest Central-Park-Karen-style incident. The hosts discuss his super real and honest stories. Then: Jesse interviews Kathryn Paige Harden, the author of The Genetic Lottery: Why DNA Matters for Social Equality, about her research and the perils of debating fraught scientific and societal subjects online.
(Note: Due to a minor scheduling snafu I'm late getting you your patrons-only episode, but I'll have it for you by tomorrow morning at the latest. Also, keep an eye out for a longer cut of the Harden interview that we're releasing just for patrons, which I'll post momentarily. -Jesse)
Show notes/Links:
Job listing: https://www.patreon.com/posts/were-hiring-56634428
Original Frederick Joseph video: https://twitter.com/FredTJoseph/status/1441919836112650242
Insider’s coverage: https://www.insider.com/woman-accused-telling-black-dog-walker-stay-in-hood-fired-2021-9
Derek Andersen has said problematic stuff himself: https://twitter.com/UnringThisBell/status/1442331588713320452?s=20
People won’t leave Joseph alone: https://twitter.com/fredtjoseph/status/1433776453620060170
Man Claims United Airlines Offered Woman $1,000 Voucher to Put Her Feet Down: 'The Audacity of White Privilege': https://www.newsweek.com/white-privilege-united-airlines-feet-table-845387
Anna Merlan general background (not petty): https://jezebel.com/is-the-uva-rape-story-a-gigantic-hoax-asks-idiot-1665233387
Merlan on Joseph on AirBnB satanists: https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7jnmb/we-talked-to-the-host-accused-of-doing-satanic-rituals-in-his-airbnb
Joseph’s claim about black-author quotas: https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1442501778675806213
Paige Harden’s faculty page at the University of Texas - Austin: https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/prc/directory/faculty/kh24738
Paige Harden’s book, The Genetic Lottery: Why DNA Matters for Social Equality: https://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Lottery-Matters-Social-Equality/dp/0691190801
Giden Lewis-Kraus’s profile of her in The New Yorker: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressives-be-convinced-that-genetics-matters
Freddie deBoer on his related book The Cult of Smart: How Our Broken Education System Perpetuates Social Injustice: https://barpodcast.fireside.fm/22
Lothian Birth Cohorts: https://www.ed.ac.uk/lothian-birth-cohorts
Comments
The word here is "Bigoteer" - One who makes false or exaggerated claims of bigotry (racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.), usually for self advantage. Frederick Joseph seems to be a professional bigoteer. I guess that's a career options now?
2021-10-10 11:23:14 +0000 UTCWas just listening to Katie on The Fifth and I wonder who said “hood” first. Was it the women or did she say “Long Island ” only for Joseph to rephrase it to make it worse and she drunkenly accepted his phrasing.
Michael
2021-10-07 02:18:11 +0000 UTCIn the story, the flight attendant offers the woman $1,000 voucher as an apology for having to deal with the guy in the seat next to her being an asshole. It's literally his fault the airline offered to give her money 😆
2021-10-06 21:41:21 +0000 UTCNac Mac Feagle is a Terry Pratchett reference, fyi.
Susannah
2021-10-04 00:23:53 +0000 UTCJust finished this episode with Paige Harden. Looking forward to the patrons-only episode where I assume the two of you dive into The Bell Curve - can’t wait!
Michael
2021-10-03 19:00:43 +0000 UTCDid anybody else read all the way down Anna Merlan’s smug, condescending piece and find the true ironic gem of the article in the smug, condescending author correction at the very end? The one that isn’t about acknowledging the error of her central thesis (those had to be added by editor’s at the top)? You think she ever once even had the thought of putting her own personal correction in?
2021-10-02 21:26:26 +0000 UTCThat's definitely sexist of you.
2021-10-02 08:44:25 +0000 UTC"Jesse interviews Kathryn Paige Harden"- Yeah, I found that very hard to listen to, her Valley Girl way of upspeak was very off-putting, I found it hard to take what this person had to say. Maybe that's sexist of me, but she sounds very young and doesn't realize how that upspeak or vocal fry or whatever they call it makes her sound casual, unserious, unprofessional and to me, hard on the ears. I don't know why it is, but compared to British professional women, American women can sound so shrill and affected and don't seem at all aware of this. The upspeak, the vocal fry, the general loudness. Like, the partriarchy is oppressing them so they need to speak louder, seems to be the thinking.
Arundel
2021-10-02 07:35:54 +0000 UTCI hate to say it, but whenever I hear about a hate crime, I immediately think it's a hoax. I've spent too much time on gay blogs reporting hate crimes, stoking outrage, and then the crime is discovered to be a hoax.
2021-10-01 22:52:11 +0000 UTCDoes Katie’s treatment of her neighbor make her not just a racist-coddler but an actual massagynist? Wakka wakka wakka…
2021-10-01 22:40:36 +0000 UTCHas Kmele written anything about the dog park video?
Grace M-Thérèse
2021-10-01 21:02:33 +0000 UTC