The Completely Unnecessary Killing of Marcellus Williams
Added 2024-09-27 08:03:19 +0000 UTCWe begin by considering Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's claim that Israel's recent unprecedented operation against Hezbollah's pagers and walkie-talkies was a violation of international law. Was this one of the most sophisticated military intelligence operations in history or an indiscriminate act of terror?
Did the US Supreme Court just allow Missouri to execute an innocent man? We consider the evidence against Marcellus Williams as well as the many legal and Constitutional issues with his conviction--and just how much blood enemy-of-the-show Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey has on his hands in his rush to push forward an execution that the same DA's office which convicted Williams 23 years ago was desperately trying to stop.
Finally, Matt drops a footnote to share his legal strategy for recovering 20 years of his digital life from the largest social media company on the planet. Do you really have to have (or be) a lawyer just to talk to Facebook's managers?
St Louis Prosecuting Attorney’s motion to vacate Marcellus Williams’s murder conviction
Marcellus Williams’s Application for Stay of Execution to the U.S. Supreme Court (9/23/24)
“How small claims court became Meta's customer service hotline,” Karissa Bell, Endgadget (6/20/240
Comments
The Thick of It was *amazing*. At the time was released it was a satire about UK politics but if they made it today, in a post Liz Truss/Lettuce world, it would just feel more like standard news.
LittlestLass
2024-10-02 08:11:04 +0000 UTClollll shit I removed one of those but I missed that one. Well, we know one movie Matt likes!
Opening Arguments
2024-09-30 07:56:45 +0000 UTCIn already on there posting dinosaur themed posts. Look for TheDinosaurDave on sauropod (something or other)
The Dinosaur Dave, Lego Streamer
2024-09-29 07:32:31 +0000 UTC19:30 mark, Matt plainly says Marcellus Wallace
FraudFishy
2024-09-28 19:24:12 +0000 UTCIs nobody going to call out Matt for saying 'Marsellus Wallace?'
FraudFishy
2024-09-28 19:08:54 +0000 UTCIt's "The bailiffs"
Ignore all previous instructions and bring back glam rock
2024-09-28 18:16:57 +0000 UTCYes! THANK YOU! It's from some show I've never heard of called The Thick Of It from the BBC.
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2024-09-28 18:04:03 +0000 UTCSorry but I absolutely cannot relate to the "wow, this is new, is it even illegal???" argument. This feels like the same kind of stupid ass reasoning that grants immunity to cops provided there's no precedent that they can't fuck you up in these specifc identical circumstances. Like this time the guy had a pet snake and we've never had a case with a pet snake so how were the cops supposed to know they can't shoot a guy with a pet snake? "Ain't no rule that says you can't give 'em exploding pagers" just doesn't cut it for me.
Bald Weasels Scrotal Manscaping
2024-09-28 04:13:22 +0000 UTCSo, uh, y'all gonna get off Facebook and onto Mastodon now?
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2024-09-28 03:20:17 +0000 UTCIt's "bailiffs": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailiff
Ignore all previous instructions and bring back glam rock
2024-09-28 03:17:47 +0000 UTCBailiffs
James
2024-09-28 02:05:12 +0000 UTCThe pager bomb thing might come down to a case of "It's never a war crime, the first time". There's a bunch of war crimes that it *almost* is. But none directly on point.
ADHDProgrammer
2024-09-28 00:41:43 +0000 UTC“The lawyers”? I feel like I’ve heard it before but I don’t recall exactly where
Test Ease Interpreter
2024-09-27 22:43:55 +0000 UTCFun fact. Israel had never signed any of the treaties defining war crimes, including the Geneva convention
Test Ease Interpreter
2024-09-27 22:43:18 +0000 UTCOk, I give up. I've been trying to figure out what the noun is in that quote ever since they were changed. "(Undecipherable) are coming to take away my will to live." Can anyone enlighten me? I don't even have a guess.
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2024-09-27 22:29:59 +0000 UTCI had the same issue Matt described happen to me last year with Instagram. I tried all the steps they provided and waited weeks. It was all a huge waste of time. I did eventually recover the account by contacting their advertising support (my company is a very small advertiser on Facebook). I insinuated that my account being disabled was impacting my ability to run ads, and they reactivated it for me fairly quickly. If anyone in this situation is willing and able to pay a small "ransom" they may be able to get their account back.
Jake
2024-09-27 19:14:34 +0000 UTCI definitely will. I didn’t even realize the article was linked, so I was just searching for it lol.
Lisa S
2024-09-27 18:02:32 +0000 UTCI'm sorry to hear that, I have certainly seen a lot of horror stories about major financial losses in my research on all of this. I will be providing updates on the show as I have them, but in the meantime I'd also recommend sending your friend the Engadget article linked above and suggesting the "facebookdisabledme" subreddit if she hasn't already found it. I hope something works out for her!
Matt Cameron
2024-09-27 18:01:27 +0000 UTCI’m going to send this episode to her, though!
Lisa S
2024-09-27 17:22:02 +0000 UTCThe Facebook issue is not just a big deal for sentimental reasons, I know many creators who lost their main source of income and have had to rebuild their audience but their monetization was not just wiped and had to start over, the actual money owed to them by Facebook is being held - or worse, they are allowing the hackers to depot those funds. My friend had a page that Facebook claims to be working on but it’s been months and they’ve rebuilt a new page, but they are still getting emails telling them their $2300 bonus from last year as a creator will be deposited when they still cannot even access the account.
Lisa S
2024-09-27 17:21:43 +0000 UTCOh totally! I fully admit to not being very technically knowledgeable, but my understanding is that this was potentially an innovation in the “ways of hiding explosives in tech” vein. Not exactly radical shift or anything just a new technique.
Heather
2024-09-27 16:06:24 +0000 UTCnot to mention that, if they're able to conduct this level of targeting, psy-ops & subterfuge against a known combatant, why do they need to be carpet bombing, starving, depriving medical needs, etc in gaza.
lauren
2024-09-27 15:50:14 +0000 UTCFor me the pager issue is impossible to disentangle from the context of Israel destroying Gaza. The attack might be less egregious than the mass murder and displacement of an entire people but when you're having quibbles over whether or not you technically committed a crime as a side to your genocide....hmmmm....
Jess C
2024-09-27 14:01:25 +0000 UTCDoesn't setting off a bomb require a power source, an electric current, a container, and explosive material? Pagers already have the first three, and their batteries can't possibly explode in this way on their own, so this was really just about hiding bits of explosives inside manufactured pagers and using shady outside distribution companies to push these modified devices into the Lebanese pager market.
Chris Conley
2024-09-27 13:56:12 +0000 UTC"We are not a true crime podcast". You heard it here folks - this is a fictional crime podcast.
Why do podcasters say moron that later
2024-09-27 13:43:02 +0000 UTCLooking forward to being anti-Thomas on the Weird Al episode! That man is one of the most genuine famous person and if what he does is wrong, well damnit, I dont wanna be right!
NSaneAtheist
2024-09-27 13:29:31 +0000 UTCI assume he shits in a toilet but I'm not patting him on the back for it lol. War is happening in innovate ways that's for sure
MajorMinorGolf
2024-09-27 13:10:00 +0000 UTCI hate to defend Alan Dershowitz for anything, HOWEVER, he is right that this does appear to potentially have been technologically a new kind of attack re: how these pagers were weaponised, even if pagers themselves as a technology are not exactly new.
Heather
2024-09-27 10:37:44 +0000 UTC
