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Hunter Biden's Trial Is Everything MAGA Thinks The Trump Trial Was

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We begin in Florida with yet more of Judge Aileen Cannon's efforts to delay Donald Trump's federal case, including a demand for Jack Smith to be nicer to Trump's lawyers and her decision to allow non-parties to join the fun and make arguments in an upcoming hearing about whether Smith was properly appointed to prosecute Trump at all.

Hunter Biden's federal trial began this week in Delaware on charges relating to his purchase and possession of a gun which he owned for 11 days in 2018. Matt breaks down the history of this investigation, the charges, and how this case ended up going to trial before a quick time jump in which we return to review what we know one week into these proceedings. How does this trial compare to the one which concluded a week earlier with the conviction of a former President Donald Trump--and would these charges ever have been brought against someone whose last name wasn’t Biden? 



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I would really like to hear Matt's take on Garland refusing to comply with a subpoena from Congress. Can/should the Justice Department just decide whether to comply and if this is acceptable then on what basis? What happens to Garland now that he was voted as in contempt of Congress? Can a subpoena be contested in some legal way rather than just refused? https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/12/us/politics/house-garland-attorney-general-biden-contempt.html?unlocked_article_code=1.zk0.odgs.90SNHOz4hIM8&smid=url-share

Emily

I think i agree with that so far as what came out at and after the plea hearing in july, but i still believe that these three charges would never have been filed against you or me or anyone else we know and that does seem like a real problem. (as i said in this episode i don't feel that way about the far more routine set of tax-related charges coming up for trial in a few months. I would also love to know why this app doesn't allow me to capitalize words!)

Matt Cameron

Noreika is a pretty decent judge as far as Trump appointments go. When I was in private practice, we used Morris Nichols as local counsel quite regularly in DDel patent litigations and, being a relatively patent-heavy district, that experience is important for bench noms. Mayyyybe you could make an argument for elevating one of the magistrate judges instead, but I see the differences as marginal.

Vehicular Man's Laughter ... Oh I just realized it's 'car' from WTW ... he's so good at Codenames he can play it blind

Not related to this post specifically, but I'd love to get some coverage of the Young Thug YSL trial.

Aindörf

I don’t think Hunter Biden should be prosecuted for the gun charge. But he isn’t being prosecuted for political reasons, he is being prosecuted because his counsel got into a measuring contest with the DOJ. Making this not selective prosecution but the most everyday garden variety thing.

Steve S

Maybe no puns, but a nice bit of drive-by poetry at 35:12 in the podcast: Hallie Biden Found the gun, Threw it away; No harm done!

David in Brooklyn

I think the complaints against Cannon might have been from fans of Glenn Kirchner. He's got a video walking through how to file a complaint against her. https://youtu.be/0MXVfiTa3KM?t=696

Cautiously Optimistic 🤞

I'm mad about the gun shop thing too. The owner absolutely has a motive to lie (I think Matt mentioned it - but falsifying that form would open them up to serious criminal charges) and how that isn't permitted as evidence of bias or relevant to how that transaction went down is insane. I had a malicious prosecution case against a gun shop owner a while back (essentially, as alleged: a gun went missing and they went and found the last "suspicious looking" (i.e. Black) guy they could find in the gun store in security footage from weeks earlier and reported him as having stolen the gun to explain it going missing to the cops/ATF). The firearm form they submitted to the ATF to report the missing firearm was foundational to our case to demonstrate improper motive. Different situation involving different folks and different claims, of course (civil vs criminal): but the owner's version of what happened while our client was in the store was so, so far removed from reality (per security footage) and at least partially explained by the owner's reporting obligations. Here, in the Biden case: the owner sold a gun to a guy without the ID required and it ended up in a dumpster behind a store 11 days later. He's going to need to explain that, and 100% has self-preservation reasons to shift the blame on how that came to happen - including loss of his federal firearms dealer status and potential jail time, I believe.

Katie Herrmann

my favourite bit about this episode is thomas' room echo and the background sirens - because it means he really is on holidays (kinda).

lauren

Lessons from this laptop situation: 1. Computer repair shops can sell your hardware AND data 2. Mental illnesses disqualify sufferers from the right to own guns 3. Sexually explicit videos or pictures of the president’s family are public records to be exhibited in congress 4. Evidence in the form of data is immune to the rules of admissibility The only thing left to do now is to apply these principles to conservatives.

Marshall Kuhlman


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