Cannabis Rescheduling; Judge Cannon Stops Trump Trial
Added 2024-05-10 10:48:57 +0000 UTCOA1031
First up, BIG ANNOUNCEMENTS!!! The Trump Trial Transcript readings will now only be available on patreon.com/gavelpod! Details inside.
Then: the Biden administration is moving forward with rescheduling marijuana to a lower federal classification--and Matt is not happy about it? Find out why this long-overdue acknowledgment of the over-criminalization of cannabis may not only be too little too late, but actually the wrong direction for criminal and social justice.
And speaking of justice gone wrong: Aileen Cannon. Fort Pierce, Florida’s best (and only) federal trial judge has once again put off Trump’s classified documents case, this time with no end in sight. We take a closer look at what she is actually doing here before checking in on Trump’s latest success in delaying his RICO trial for election interference in Georgia.
We finish up with Thomas Takes the Bar Exam, in which Thomas find out how he did in the strange case of the arsonist who doesn't understand how fire works before wagering his eternal soul on a new question about a sick violinist.
Formal HHS recommendation that cannabis be moved to Schedule III (8/29/23)
“Legalize it All,” Dan Baum, Harper’s (April 2016)(source of 1994 John Ehrlichman quote as personally recorded by the author)
The Cannabis Administration and Opportunity Act (2022 Senate bill removing marijuana from federal drug schedules and putting it under FDA regulation reintroduced by Chuck Schumer on 5/1/2024)
Judge Cannon’s Order Setting Second Set of Pretrial Deadlines/Hearings (5/7/24)
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Ahhh I see, most edibles are sold this way. I'm so 'in it' that I would never think to eat an entire pack of anything, but my Grandma might not know the difference. Budtenders are usually good about identifying "newbies" and warning them but I definitely see your point about packaging and dosing. Thank you for the CBN recommendation, btw! You guys have never said that I shouldn't take MEDICAL advice from a podcast so....
Jon C
2024-05-14 15:30:11 +0000 UTCI'm late to this one, but haven't listened to today's ep. Definitely seems like C., it's hard to imagine a world where you can just substitute one violinist for another of equal or lesser value. If Rebecca had run Rent-A-Violinist and the contract had simply promised "One (1) Violinist" it would be a different story.
Ding Dong, the Pest is Gone
2024-05-14 06:48:29 +0000 UTCYes sir! I caught that earlier today. Thank you!
Timothy Thayer
2024-05-13 16:19:03 +0000 UTCThomas has said that it will be coming out on free podcast platforms, but he has a little more work to do before he can release it there
Tim Crall
2024-05-13 16:18:06 +0000 UTCPlease let me know if u find it…I’m Apple pod (joined for OA to support TS & now in deep!) but it’s not there. Thx
GenXNerd_Eli.is.Keats_AnnaFrogs_SmithVictory
2024-05-13 04:27:41 +0000 UTCI don't actually remember which store it was but here's the product not to look for https://www.bettyseddies.com/products/lemonagave-bedtimebettys
Matt Cameron
2024-05-12 15:21:58 +0000 UTCI can add the business end of a high heel to that list.
Katie Herrmann
2024-05-12 01:08:47 +0000 UTCAnother podcast. I'll have to listen to that somewhere else. I'm spending so much on patreon already.
Timothy Thayer
2024-05-11 17:07:16 +0000 UTCAs an MA resident I would like to know where Matt found those 50mg edibles so that I can...uh... avoid that store.
Jon C
2024-05-11 15:03:11 +0000 UTCGuess what? I got a fever! And the only prescription.. is MORE PODCASTS!!!
can I get a CHEE-HOOOOO
2024-05-11 14:13:48 +0000 UTCT3BE - C. I think that the "personal services cannot be delegated" is another way to say that Lisa has no standing because she was in no way part of the contract, and the "exclusive" part of the contract implies that the symphony did not agreed merely to a competent performance (which can be "subcontracted" by Rebecca), but Rebecca herself. So Rebecca cannot unilaterally subcontract the performance, hence no standing for Lisa.
Maria Kladaki
2024-05-11 13:11:42 +0000 UTCDeadly I’ve seen: women’s rings, ballpoint pen, and sock. The latter was the most legit actually.
Navi Girl
2024-05-11 04:55:56 +0000 UTCT3be - C - same reasoning, but i feel like, i can see that whole scenario being fixed with a phone call in advance...
The Dinosaur Dave, Lego Streamer
2024-05-11 04:08:40 +0000 UTCI would love an episode on tree law.
Daniel Noffsinger
2024-05-11 02:13:10 +0000 UTCCan you name it that when there's already a pod called yo gavel gavel?
Tiffany W.
2024-05-10 23:14:29 +0000 UTCFun fact: Alaska came up with its own drug schedule under state law (6A) so that it could schedule marijuana lower than literally every other scheduled substance
Tonei Glavinic
2024-05-10 21:58:21 +0000 UTCThe political calculations in midterm years are very different from presidential years. Turnout is different and many districts matter to a different extent.
Drew Vogel
2024-05-10 21:52:59 +0000 UTCMarijuana was no less popular in 2022 than it is now. All the reasons not to go with a bare minimum effort were also true in 2022. It just comes down to, Biden isn’t supporting decriminalizing and legalizing marijuana because he doesn’t personally believe marijuana should be decriminalized or legalized, so he’s gong to go as far as he is forced to politically and not an inch further.
Test Ease Interpreter
2024-05-10 21:51:28 +0000 UTCI think the real heart of the issue is that Joe Biden has always had a real, sincere philosophical opposition to marijuana since any move in favor of it is done against his will because the politics are undeniable, and the absolutely minimum he can do it meet that political need.
Test Ease Interpreter
2024-05-10 21:47:21 +0000 UTCLoving this format. This episode has that good old OA nostalgic feel. Trial stuff is like producing an audio play in terms of intensity so respect asking extra for that and separating it. Trump is already taking over all the legal shows! I definitely want intensive research and FDA regulation for cannabis - and I'm an active user! Between cPTSD, insomnia, ASD, and glaucoma (yes, it's okay to snicker at the blind stoner stereotype :p), it takes A LOT to calm down and function. Let alone sleep. Weed is the only thing that's worked, and it works WELL. So long as I use responsibly, there aren't nasty effects as I've had with prescription meds that didn't help half as much. PA hasn't legalized, but I can buy "synthetic" products here and online from other states. Synthetic is misleading. I'd LOVE an explainer about so-called synthetic products and the law if anyone has that expertise. Like, I can legally buy stuff here that will make me fail a test...but if someone from Ohio tosses an honest to gods weed brownie across the state line, I'm screwed. Probably not really since cops here don't seem to care about it, but the inconsistencies are jarring. Then there's the fun little issue of having friends who'd lose their clearances if they use. Some of them would benefit profoundly for their own medical issues. Even when properly STONED, nobody would get passwords out of me! This isn't a substance that's going to make people in important positions suddenly lose their ethics. I think congress needs to get stoned, just once.
Minnow & blossom
2024-05-10 20:16:42 +0000 UTCHey, totally get this concern. Believe me, I wanted to find some way to make it all work, but it just doesn't. Making these transcript ones is literally 4x the work of regular OA and it requires hiring people. To say that I should be able to just do all that and not get any revenue from it is just not something I can do. One thing I might not have said explicitly is that I can't charge for more OA episodes than I already am, so any additional episodes are essentially produced for free. So the options were: Replace OA with trial coverage (I hate this and a lot of listeners do too) Don't do the trial coverage (also hate this option) Somehow do both old OA and trial coverage but make no additional revenue for the massive amount of extra work and time. I think this was the only solution and it has so much potential going forward. And YES it will be available for free eventually, I promise! I just want to give the public feed a proper podcast launch with balloons and smashing a bottle on a boat or whatever.
Opening Arguments
2024-05-10 19:32:28 +0000 UTCWell thanks a LOT, Matt, for adding ANOTHER dissent of Thomas's to the list of those I agree with (the number now being TWO). Whelp, time to cut up my Democrat card and apply for my bat-shit insane card, instead.
SpunRightRound
2024-05-10 17:43:32 +0000 UTCFormer dispensary manager here; to my knowledge, 280E does allow for deducting some things still. Basically things that aren't directly related to the sale/transport/etc. OF cannabis specifically. So as a manager, my salary was deductible but I had to keep a log of time used for things like administrative tasks. Opening the store, counting in the bank and tils etc., meetings with employees, etc. all that time was tax deductible where as time I spent on the sales floor, or doing inventory etc. was not. I could be, and very likely am, missing some nuance in that, but that was my understanding of it based on my job requirements.
Quick update, Ovechkin is only 26 goals from The Record
2024-05-10 17:30:10 +0000 UTCI mean, isn't that already a theoretical issue with the other shows Thomas has hosted? Trial stuff has an audience that law stuff doesn't, necessarily. See: the entire true crime genre. It makes sense to me.
Jon C
2024-05-10 16:51:21 +0000 UTCI think this is a really smart move by Thomas and Matt. It restores a general focus on law to OA, while allowing some of the truly amazing analysis and dramatic readings to be subsidized separately due to high cost in both time and dollars. I went and subscribed to Gavel Gavel and I look forward to the content there now and in the future.
Chris S.
2024-05-10 16:48:13 +0000 UTCBut *this* was *not* his chance. This is just the culmination of missing his chance back in 2022. Given that he needed to allot years for this process due the many unknowns he had to start in the first half of the term. Had Biden taken the time to get his party on the same page in 2022, while inflation, Roe, and the war in Ukraine were at the top of people's minds, he would have been roundly criticized and potentially lost the midterms. While most of the country is in favor of full legalization across the board, that's not the position of the marginal house district for the democratic party. Today's episode gave the impression that Biden is making the decision for how ambitious to be now, during the heart of a presidential campaign, where the popularity of his campaign could have been bouyed by a more ambitious announcement.
Drew Vogel
2024-05-10 16:28:34 +0000 UTCRight--I referenced this announcement and Biden's prior confusing campaign promises in my analysis; it's how we got to this point. My issue here is that this was his chance to get in line not just with his party but with the overwhelming majority of Americans to talk about a way forward with de-scheduling, legalization, and regulation rather than debating about reclassifying what kind of crime it should for it to be sold in stores--as it still will be under a Schedule III regime. (Also, there is no one timeline for rescheduling a controlled substance given all of the many complicated steps required. It historically can range from a few months to nearly a decade due to all of the many people, agencies, and political issues involved as well as the labyrinth which is the DEA's administrative court system.)
Matt Cameron
2024-05-10 15:20:51 +0000 UTCFor Gavel Gavel: I'd love to see an episode on the trial and/or interrogation of a developmentally disabled person who may have given a false confession. There are lots of cases out there. A relatively well-documented one is Tymond J. Preston (United States v. Preston, 751 F.3d 1008 (9th Cir. 2014). I'd be happy to contribute my psychology expertise on how developmental disabilities affect a person's ability to communicate, understand concepts like deception or withholding information, think critically (i.e., I'm being told X, but X is implausible), etc.
Stormy Decisis says visit sharebannedbooks.com
2024-05-10 14:57:28 +0000 UTCI'll listen whether the show's name is OA or GG, but I don't get why it's being separated into two separate shows instead of just having both "classic" and "trial" episodes of OA? Seems like unless everyone listens to both shows that there will be listeners missing out on context / running jokes / etc and also that you just have to hope that all 2100 OA subscribers will also subscribe to GG. I'm not saying I hate the idea or anything, I just don't understand the benefit?
Corrigible (OA Live Show New Orleans)
2024-05-10 14:46:12 +0000 UTCI think this is the good, level-headed take. My initial reaction was annoyance that a couple of midweek episodes in a row were missed to produce exciting new content...that's going to be behind a different paywall. It felt like Thomas was trying to pull something like a bait and switch, but I think that was just my brain's scam detector being a little oversensitive. I'd rather have it all on one feed, but not a big deal
Help, I'm trapped in a podcast factory!
2024-05-10 14:33:12 +0000 UTCBiden did confirm they are doing this. He did so back in 2022 when he kicked off the process. It was part of the announcement of the pardons. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/06/statement-from-president-biden-on-marijuana-reform/ > Third, I am asking the Secretary of Health and Human Services and the Attorney General to initiate the administrative process to review expeditiously how marijuana is scheduled under federal law. Federal law currently classifies marijuana in Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act, the classification meant for the most dangerous substances. This is the same schedule as for heroin and LSD, and even higher than the classification of fentanyl and methamphetamine – the drugs that are driving our overdose epidemic. Apparently it is a ~18 month process.
Drew Vogel
2024-05-10 13:50:11 +0000 UTCThough if I could make one suggestion that I've been meaning to say for awhile, can you please cut the "you won't hear this ad if you're a Patreon" and likewise from the Patreon version? We're already paying, we don't need to be sold. It itself is an ad (even if a short one) and I would way rather a smooth episode that didn't even indicate ad are there
Jakob
2024-05-10 13:08:18 +0000 UTCBefore listening to the announcement, it looked like it was going to be behind a paywall. Wasn't the biggest fan of that, and probably would've just moved my pledge to their (don't want to add another pod subscription). I will be interested to see how it goes. I liked it before, but I also liked the "hominess" of it. Way excided by going back to "classic" OA, both of my legal shows are already 100% Trump (one special counsel focused, so doesn't talk about the current trial, and one there's for now is consumed by the trial)
Jakob
2024-05-10 12:53:35 +0000 UTCMy understanding is that the other episodes will come to a free feed soon, so it sounds like you can just pledge to whichever one you want to have early access to. It’s always a little disappointing when a creator changes up what to expect & we end up with something less or different than expected, but I think it’s understandable that the OA team got into something and only later realized how big a job it is to do well - and the transcript analysis is really good & different than anything I see others doing, so I’m glad TS decided to invest in some help to keep that going, without sacrificing the OA we know & love. And they did communicate quickly so it’s not like, say, a kickstarter (where this has happened to me several times) & it feels worse to have things change on you - for most people this probably only impacts 1 month’s subscription…that said perhaps for that reason the first month’s episodes could be released on the OA feed.
Apprentice of Adventure
2024-05-10 12:53:08 +0000 UTCIt says it will later be available in a public feed. The dramatic readings are a ton of work and it’s reasonable to move them to another feed if it means stabilizing the OA feed in my opinion. The first bit was great but to keep it up ongoing is another podcasts worth of work.
Lisa S
2024-05-10 12:52:13 +0000 UTCUnless I'm mistaken, it won't be behind a paywall. He said he's setting up the proper feed.
Jakob
2024-05-10 12:50:29 +0000 UTCCome on folks step up your Patreon pledges or sign up as a pledger if not already.
FRED R GROOTHUIS
2024-05-10 12:39:37 +0000 UTCAgreed. I definitely can't add another podcast to my bill. Plus, I have been trying to spread the word about the terrific transcript readings and how interesting they were, but now when they're behind a paywall it makes that trickier. I also wasn't too bothered about the Trump content more or less taking over for a bit, because none of the other trials seem to be coming on any time soon and this one can't go on forever (can it?) so it felt like it would be a limited thing.
AliceMerray
2024-05-10 12:15:22 +0000 UTCI don't have the listening time to add another podcast, so I certainly have no idea how you have the time to produce one. Concept seems interesting, though, and hopefully frees up OA to add more non-Trump content.
Vehicular Man's Laughter ... Oh I just realized it's 'car' from WTW ... he's so good at Codenames he can play it blind
2024-05-10 11:23:54 +0000 UTCReally unhappy with this... I specifically set up a patreon account to subscribe to OA because of the trial transcripts and the in-depth analysis of the trial. And now after 1 week you move it to another pod, where I also would have to pay.
Atzen für Afrika
2024-05-10 11:12:51 +0000 UTCThis will be great. I love a classic OA. I would love to hear more general explanatory shit, more like "what's the deal with tree law", "lol did Florida just accidentally ban Florida", "can HOA Karens really actually legally prevent people drying their undies in their own fucking garden". I'm torn between being sick of the Trump bullshit but also this is the only podcast that makes it interesting. Other content creators are like "HIS LAWYER SAID WHAT?!?!!" and I'm like of course his lawyer said what, like he's gotta say something and it's going to be dumb. The precise nature and legal impropriety of the dumbness is what's interesting to me, if at all. Aaanyway congrats and I'm super looking forward to the new format
Bald Weasels Scrotal Manscaping
2024-05-10 11:12:26 +0000 UTC
