Star Trek: Section 31 - re:View
Added 2025-01-28 16:09:26 +0000 UTC
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Simpsons did it with the flying hell-fish.
Frazzled Doo
2025-02-08 07:04:46 +0000 UTCData's Mum was an android too, she was programmed to poo. I feel nothing for new star trek. NOTHING! we rewatch the good ones every now and then. in watching DS9 recently i can see the beginning of gritty star trek being born. section 31, Sisco's morals being bent, floaty feelings about belief and so on. it's still better then anything new by billion trillion gillion light years though. i know in real life we may need a dark secret service but in star trek i don't want that, unless it's an external group outside the federation, i want a vision of humanity i have to strive to be. like a superhero but a civilisation... in space!!
Space Pug Pirate
2025-02-05 12:03:01 +0000 UTCAbsolutely! We'll have 20 seasons of space ships shooting at each other! But joking aside, there's been so much going on in the world in the last 5 years, there's plenty of material which could be made into ethical dilemma's and in classic Star Trek fashion be commented on. And since the project of the United Nations seems to be a failure, Star Trek could explore the limits of such a project. I wish I'd be more of a writer, I'd start to write that myself.
Marvin Falz
2025-02-01 10:02:45 +0000 UTCBut will it be ‘Fun’ ..? ..fun.
Frazzled Doo
2025-01-31 20:37:03 +0000 UTCPoor Jay, he’a clearly in mourning after the sad news of David Lynch’s passing and you forced him to wear that dirty, shameful Discovery uniform and face the darker reality that this film exists. The suffering of Rich Evans is no longer enough to satisfy Mike’s sadistic needs. His sole mission is to hurt others just as Alex Kurtzman hurt him so many times before. 😭
Fred Wissell
2025-01-31 17:15:33 +0000 UTCFantastic work. I could watch you two bitch about this shitty Trek content until the cows come home. Bravo!!
Tim Kocher
2025-01-29 17:20:18 +0000 UTCWatch Archer, season 2 episode 5, "The Double Deuce" Or I'll just tell you. It's where a group of people put equal sums of money into an account. The last person alive gets to take it. After decades of compound interest...
Neil Peart, Lord of Drums
2025-01-29 16:46:15 +0000 UTCColin and Jay have discussed it on Re:view. Probably the movie I've watched the most.
Ian Major
2025-01-29 15:23:50 +0000 UTCKurtzman's Secret Hideout is getting more efficient by being able to squeeze an entire season's worth of nuTrek suckiness into just 90 minutes.
DonMac
2025-01-29 15:07:20 +0000 UTCEven Silk/silk 2 and Hard Ticket to Hawaii have better scores on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes than Section 31… does that make it a WOTW candidate?
xheadhunterx
2025-01-29 11:19:57 +0000 UTCThat was the most satisfying plate-break I've ever seen. Thank you.
The Lobe
2025-01-29 04:55:40 +0000 UTCCan we talk about the most important part of this review found at the 39:14 mark? See all those David Lynch movies on the table...feels like we have a retrospective coming soon! SO HYPED - and please do not skip Dune, it's amazing even if Dino tried his best to wreck it.
Youdoyou
2025-01-29 04:31:09 +0000 UTCMany David Lynch DVDs there in the screening room. Will we get a re:View tribute?
andrew
2025-01-29 03:36:43 +0000 UTCThe most disturbing part of this video is that you didn’t need to freeze on the one-shot of the director. That was his actual response. Did you slow it down? (PS: Disney’s AI is already hard at work on the script for “Section 66”)
andrew
2025-01-29 03:17:56 +0000 UTCTHERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!!
Frazzled Doo
2025-01-29 02:52:53 +0000 UTCKnowings half the battle..
Frazzled Doo
2025-01-29 02:50:33 +0000 UTCHe’s a Masochist
Frazzled Doo
2025-01-29 02:48:18 +0000 UTCThey should have gone with Star Trek IV: The Great Whale Caper!
Yngwie Tarantino
2025-01-29 02:45:50 +0000 UTCIt went Beep Beep as well.
Frazzled Doo
2025-01-29 02:44:54 +0000 UTCRemind us again Ox’ what a tantoine is..
Frazzled Doo
2025-01-29 02:40:57 +0000 UTCI read..
Frazzled Doo
2025-01-29 02:39:53 +0000 UTC..man..now you’ve made me think..fuck you.
Frazzled Doo
2025-01-29 02:38:28 +0000 UTCOmfg..and it was all a Barkley ep ‘in the newest holo-deck..
Frazzled Doo
2025-01-29 02:37:02 +0000 UTCI was getting more and more depressed throughout this video until the old men (actually younger than me, but still old men) reminded me, I too still have all my TOS, TNG, and DS9 physical media. Fuck Kurtzman and Paramount. Also, man, that was a satisfying plate break!
Dave Ruff
2025-01-29 02:30:04 +0000 UTCOoof, Jay would look pretty dapper on the Nerd Crew in that uniform…just sayin’
AM
2025-01-29 02:28:16 +0000 UTCYou should have stopped after “The Last Generation.” And you dragged Jay into this?
andrew
2025-01-29 02:26:11 +0000 UTCNo
Banta
2025-01-29 02:01:42 +0000 UTCI hope they eventually write all this off as a failed simulation at the Daystrom Institute, and show a scientist move the file to their recycling bin. We need real Star Trek more than ever these days.
CriscoDiscoDuck
2025-01-29 00:18:38 +0000 UTCI’m not sure which take is worse, that Picard season 3 is pretty good or that Obi Wan was fine. I feel like the years of crap put them into a critical coma when it came to those series.
Banta
2025-01-28 23:29:33 +0000 UTCI agree, Star Trek ‘09 is fine and it happened before the era of all these franchise legacy sequels, so the twist of the movie, the Kelvin timeline, felt actually pretty neat to me at the time. Yeah, it was thin on actual Star Trek elements, but it took the action schlock with a pinch of sci-fi formula that the TNG movies rolled with but executed it in the exciting JJ Abrams way. Which again, wasn’t tired at that point. Heck, Lost wasn’t even over yet, so we didn’t know that the whole mystery box motif was an improv con.
Banta
2025-01-28 23:26:57 +0000 UTCOh, that plate didn’t deserve that on account of a stupid Section 31 movie. I feel like that’s letting Kurtzman win.
Banta
2025-01-28 23:20:35 +0000 UTCRich really lost his rag towards the end. I'm not sure I've seen him so fired up, he seemed deadly serious.
Wayne Mellors
2025-01-28 22:45:01 +0000 UTCPoint of order regarding "the worst thing Section 31 ever did" in Deep Space 9 (16:21): S31 were the ones to create the genocidal changeling virus in the first place, then infected Odo with it knowing full well that he would eventually spread it to the rest of his kind. They straight-up tried to do a genocide, and weren't particularly ashamed of it either. They believe (as to the leaders of the Federation, as S31's founding was written into the Federation's charter) that, eeehh, a little genocide is OK every now and then. That's a deeply controversial idea among old trek heads, but potentially very interesting ground in which to develop those ideas and arguments. A Section 31 series that genuinely grappled with the core ethical dilemma of its existence would be a fascinating watch, and as far removed as could be from the glossy action trash that the S31 movie ultimately was.
neuracnu
2025-01-28 22:10:40 +0000 UTCAll that nothingness to see a plate breaking. Bravo.
Jeff Roper
2025-01-28 20:41:36 +0000 UTCDo you guys have a tontine going? Is that why you keep trying to kill national treasure Rich Evans?
Neil Peart, Lord of Drums
2025-01-28 20:28:02 +0000 UTCRich is gonna do a beautiful Kintsugi job on the plate though, right?
plop
2025-01-28 20:22:58 +0000 UTCIt's the illusion of style AND the illusion of substance!
Christopher Nunn
2025-01-28 20:08:53 +0000 UTCIsn't there an independent production company out there with enough knowledge, education, wit, and money, to create something like Star Trek? Morality tales set in an optimistic storyworld, where the characters have to solve ethical dilemmas and in solving them make their world a better place? Doesn't necessarily have to be set on a spaceship, it only has to stay true to the essence of the 'Wagon Train to the stars' and 'exploring space, the final frontier' aspect of Star Trek, which is rooted in the American mythology. An updated, modern version of the American mythology perhaps? A question which people like Mike and Rich should be able to answer.
Marvin Falz
2025-01-28 20:05:33 +0000 UTCThey promised Jay that they would all watch some horrifying psychosexual indie film afterwards to make up for it. It'll probably be more cheerful...
Amanda Thompson
2025-01-28 19:59:16 +0000 UTCAre snap zooms the new shaky cams and lens flares? There's always a tremendous irony to how these people will latch on to trendy techniques/aesthetic choices in order to seem cutting edge only to hideously date themselves.
Amanda Thompson
2025-01-28 19:55:54 +0000 UTCthat's exactly how I feel about the semi recent "The Stand" mini series. I just kept thinking to myself "did anyone on this show even read they book?? how did you screw this up so badly?"
casey
2025-01-28 19:47:33 +0000 UTCI'm still not into Star Trek after all these years, but I take Mike's and Rich's conversation about the current state of the franchise everyday.
Marco Cabibbo
2025-01-28 19:32:37 +0000 UTCSure, it was an okay movie. It had child Spock beating the nacelles off some punk-ass bullies, Chris Helmsworth as Kirk's suicidal dad, a particularly fantastic and underused Karl Urban, impossible science, violence, genocide and Simon Pegg.
Damon Killian
2025-01-28 19:23:34 +0000 UTCI think I vomited a little from the fact that you said there are snap zooms in Star Trek. Battlestar Galactica's dog fight scenes. Sure. Star Trek. Get the F*CK OUT. No. Seriously. Someone win the lottery and buy Star Trek from CBS NOW and get this franchise out of Kurtzman's god damn hands.
Kellic
2025-01-28 19:12:38 +0000 UTCWatching this movie made me so sad. Star Trek at its core is about exploring ideas, morality, humanity, the power of people working together to be the best they can be. This trash is the opposite of all of those things. How do you put someone in charge of Star Trek who not only doesn’t understand what made it great, but seems to actively disagree with those principles? It’s just so sad.
Mike Cook
2025-01-28 18:53:16 +0000 UTCHonestly I understand why Star Trek is dead to Rich… but Strange New Worlds is mostly good. I was pleasantly surprised and now Pike rates as one of my top captains when before he was just a guy in a beep chair.
THE_GnomeChomskee
2025-01-28 18:48:33 +0000 UTCThey watched it so we don’t have to… thank gawd.
THE_GnomeChomskee
2025-01-28 18:41:19 +0000 UTCWas it?
Christopher Nunn
2025-01-28 18:37:25 +0000 UTCSO MANY SNAP ZOOMS
Christopher Nunn
2025-01-28 18:37:05 +0000 UTCWilliam Sadler’s wife died in December. That is probably what made Mike think he died.
Preston Petersen
2025-01-28 18:25:40 +0000 UTCHey Kurtzman, you know what is a good funny sci-fi heist movie? Star Trek IV : The Voyage Home.
Pressley Press
2025-01-28 18:08:07 +0000 UTC15 years of dreck, just because Star Trek 2009 was an ok movie.
Damon Killian
2025-01-28 18:06:13 +0000 UTCCome back, baby. TOS never forgets.
Michael Puttré
2025-01-28 17:47:06 +0000 UTCMike, thank for your sacrifice; collecting scenes from the movie and the press junket. It must have been very painful to your psyche.
Pressley Press
2025-01-28 17:33:31 +0000 UTCThe one thing that people are not bringing up is the fact that they had this rated by the MPAA, it's rated PG-13. That's right Alex Kirchman thought he was going to release this theatrically, likely because he has an Oscar winner in it. Which is likely the whole reason why this got made in the first place, finally, is because that contract likely has an expiration date, and he thought he could turn this into some box office. The very basics of marketing would dictate why you would never release this theatrically starting with the fact that only hard-core track fans know what section 31 is and they hate this
Jeff Kleist
2025-01-28 17:20:52 +0000 UTCThe reason why this happened is manyfold. For example the only reason why discovery made it past season three is because of Covid, they had studio space booked for Picard and the insurance company refused to cover him, so they had to shoot something because they had already paid for the studio time. The thing I find most fascinating that no one seems to be pointing out is that they had it rated by the MPAA. That means that Alex Kitzman thought that he was going to release this theatrically he had to make it now he had to make something because his contract to get an Oscar winner at bargain basement prices was likely expiring. So because Paramount signed terrible contract he can make pretty much whateve
Jeff Kleist
2025-01-28 17:19:16 +0000 UTCPoor Jay, came into the studio to binge watch every David Lynch film and show, then these nerds put on Star Trek...and not even good Trek.
Joshua Mannix
2025-01-28 17:12:40 +0000 UTCWas happy to see the Lynch DVDs on the table.
Katy
2025-01-28 17:08:53 +0000 UTCPoor Jay
Lee Noble
2025-01-28 16:58:02 +0000 UTCI really enjoyed when Lucky the Leprechaun showed up. Very rtarded for Star Trek, but where's the frickin cereal!!
Erik Sheedlo
2025-01-28 16:55:30 +0000 UTCAs a life, long Star Trek Fan, I watched the first 15 minutes....then pulled an Elvis and now my TV is wedged under an uneven table leg in the basement.
Erik Sheedlo
2025-01-28 16:50:51 +0000 UTC"I'm starting to wonder if we're RLM fans because we're all sadists who enjoy watching them suffer." Corelation, not causation. I also enjoy watching people that I don't like suffer...
Manuel Johnen
2025-01-28 16:49:56 +0000 UTCTime to fire up my personal relaxation light and enjoy some rlm
Adam Pengra
2025-01-28 16:48:57 +0000 UTCAnd to do the hourly blood sugar checks on both of them.
Amanda Thompson
2025-01-28 16:36:21 +0000 UTCTHIS is what happens when you give Picard Season 3 a free pass.
Jamie Harrold
2025-01-28 16:34:12 +0000 UTCHe's going for a murder-suicide of the soul. Rich is too powerful, though.
Amanda Thompson
2025-01-28 16:32:06 +0000 UTCStar Trek: Snap Zoom
Zoran Basic
2025-01-28 16:31:32 +0000 UTCI did think it got a little gratuitous when Mike kept sticking that ice pick in his thigh during the discussion. Watching Rich waterboard him was delightful, though. He earned it.
Amanda Thompson
2025-01-28 16:31:07 +0000 UTCI'm starting to wonder if we're RLM fans because we're all sadists who enjoy watching them suffer. But, as a fellow Trekkie, stuff like this hurts me, too...
Amanda Thompson
2025-01-28 16:28:52 +0000 UTCJay's just there for emotional support... XD
Manuel Johnen
2025-01-28 16:26:51 +0000 UTCOh dear.
Glenn Ponka
2025-01-28 16:20:01 +0000 UTCKAPLAH!!
Frazzled Doo
2025-01-28 16:13:49 +0000 UTCSection 31 was the best Star Trek movie I've seen this decade (the 2020s)!
AshesBoomstick
2025-01-28 16:12:47 +0000 UTCWhy? You love the pain don’t you?
Nick Kerr
2025-01-28 16:11:55 +0000 UTCCalled it. I knew Mike had to bring the torture upon his victim.
Jimmy Rode
2025-01-28 16:11:39 +0000 UTC
