Half in the Worst: Release the Snyder Cut!

You know some people act surprised that this review wasn't them hating on Zack Synder. It's my fault for reading youtube comments under their review. However, I believe Mike said in the Last Jedi HitB that RLM champions the writer-director who crafts a movie and it feels like somebody's vision over the committee. Love this film or hate it, it is Zack Synder's vision. Now we can all discuss the plus and minuses in his vision, but I'd take this film over the abortion that was the theatrical cut any day of the week.

AllGoodNamesRGone

Twenty minutes to chronologically recap the 2017 version? You're slipping, Mike.

Isolated Thunderstorms

Guys if you watch the Snyder cut don’t skip the entire epilogue because the first part of it is actually important as it concludes the story

William Ohmes

I mean they said they liked it so you should just watch it

William Ohmes

I would love a "Invincible" Review by RLM when the first Season ends late April/early May. Loved the comic and the first three episode don it more than just justice. Deserves more attention than it gets.

Michael Matzat

Agree so much. It's been too long since they've been able to visit.

Lisa

Reel quick: IMAX is 1.43:1 aspect ratio, and Justice League was shot open matte in Super 35 at a ratio around 1.33:1 aka 4:3. Therefore, due to Snyder loving squares, he released the full open matte ver of the movie to emulate the IMAX experience (which would work out on a real IMAX screen). Additionally, as far as I know, no visual information was comprised or is missing.

MarriottPlayer

Someone over on YouTube asked if you can ever get Jim and Colin to come on down and talk about all the visual effects work that goes into big films like this. It's something that doesn't get highlighted enough, and I'd love to hear their take on what happened with this one.

Jessie Zimmer

Release the... 1) editors cut 2) Calvil's cut 3) Prime cut 4) Short cut 5) Shaving cut 6) Paper cut 7) Cut above the rest 8) and Rickshaw cut!!

Erik Sheedlo

This is easily in the top 5 videos for me. The passion everyone has for the topic, the level of detail you go into dissecting it; it was a fascinating watch. Thanks guys!

Jake Romigh

Those glamor shots of Rich were amazing.

India Jackson

Probably the best DC series you can currently find. It looks like platinum encrusted with diamonds when compared to the standard CW DC series, i.e. Legends, Arrow and the supremely god awful Batwoman series.

The Pizza King

That's a really good idea

Rich needs his own podcast to talk about comics.

No... they're on the cool side of the table...

Manuel Johnen

VERY COOL

erkembode everywhen

look at jay way over there in the thumbnail, won't rich and mike be his friend again? especially rich, that asshole

Aubrey Fogle

You guys never did say if you recommend the watch. Or did I miss that?

Kellic

Superman is the little rocket.

Silentphil9

Spot on observations as always.

Zack - you have the privilege of being approved by RLM. You may think your movie being discussed on BOTW is suffering - No...it is salvation...

geekay

I love the 4K camera on Rich Evans. Great stuff, RLM.

AllGoodNamesRGone

I still can’t believe Martha Manhunter was a thing that happened

Ben-K

Came here to say this. This is the same cinematic universe even. The whole "release the Snyder cut" thing probably wouldn't have happened if it weren't for the Donner cut.

GadgetBlues

There are about 5 dogs in Hollywood with hotdog breath who approve of this cut.

John Campbell

Why not release all the scenes and let viewers cut their own film together. Would like to see Blade Runner cut together chronologically.

Peter Robinson

On one hand, embarrassing. On the other, you guys pointed out Whedon's brand of creepy-nice-guy feminism, there was Rich-cam, and Mike did a cute stretch. 7/10

Rhea

A four hour dark nightmare of a bombastic vapid superhero movie vs the two hour baffling light-colored vapid nightmare of a bizarre comedic superhero movie? I choose a tall cliff. Preferably overlooking rough seas.

Rick Drake

I’m not Jay but I think this may answer your question https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/05/is-releasing-the-snyder-cut-a-victory-for-toxic-fandoms But basically fans harassed critics that gave snyders films bad reviews and told them to kill themselves etc...

Nick Chavarria

Whose name did you forget ?

Nick Chavarria

Ye don’t bother, the epilogue is basically a series of long trailers for “movies to come”

Nick Chavarria

“I have notoriously bad taste in movies sometimes.” lol

Dan Hiestand

I've never been that into DC movies, but I'm genuinely interested in this. Though I'll be taking your advice and stopping before the epilogue. Great discussion. I enjoy listening to y'all break down the more technical aspects of filmmaking.

Jessie Zimmer

I was wondering if you guys were gonna cover this. I gotta be honest, I gave it a shot and enjoyed a lot more than I originally thought I would as someone who was not a fan of Snyder’s previous DC movies.

Michael Parker

Recruit more editors, more CG artists.

Bort Ward

Well, what about Congorilla? No one seems to remember Congorilla.

Matthew McLean

I love that Rich chose to wore an Avengers shirt for this.

Sammy Allouba

48:48 I AM SCREAMING "MONSIOUR MALLAH" AT RICH BUT HE CANT HEAR ME!!!!!!!!! PLEASE APPEND THIS VIDEO WITH DC'S "BEST" APE-RELATED CHARACTER

gill

I have never cared for either of the cuts of Justice League, but I really like your discussion about the technical aspects of the movies. I guess, the action scenes are fine, I just don't see anything interesting in the story, which doesn't mean that the story is bad. The moment where Mike sneezes made me laugh. The sneeze was unintentional, but the cut was intentional. Then cut back to the discussion, where Jay seemingly reacts to the funny moment. This is the power of editing. (The reminiscence of that stupid line in Star Trek: Discovery is both unintentional and unfortunate, but the statement is correct.) I also like the seriousness of the discussion of the man's tragedy (sorry, I've forgotten the name of the man), especially the cutaways to Rich's subtle, sympathetic reaction.

Marvin Falz

I'm glad you guys liked this movie. I have been a fan of MOS and BVS Ultimate Edition and I was aware that you guys despised those movies. I'm fine with it knowing those films are divisive but I'm really glad you liked this movie. It seems like a lot of people who didn't like the previous two like this movie and that makes me happy! P.S. Hey Jay, when you said us Snyder fans were "aggressive at times" could you give me an example or just a short summary? If not that's fine. Enjoy your day!

Michael Gussler

I audibly gasped when I saw Paul Feig's tweet

Reid Josephson

I doubt Snyder used any sort of internet (or establishment) criticism to "fix" the movie, especially since he never even watched the theatrical version. He's an accomplished director with an ego, he's gonna do what he's gonna do. And it's clear which parts are re-shot for this cut.

Hard pass.

Amy Hitchner

A polished, longer turd is still a turd.

Kellic

I think the problem is that there is a weird view of the heroes. From what I have gathered from watching, Superman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman are all worshiped and treated like Gods in some form. So in the dream... all the gods that protected earth are defeated, and the apocalypse happens. Now it is up to the non-God (I don't know, heroes, titans?) to try and save the day in the sequel. I think Snyder really wanted to make a mad max-esque movie with superheroes.

Matthew McLean

I'll try and explain the Martian Manhunter scenes the way I think it is implied. I think since Martian Manhunter is a telepath in the comics they may have given him new power where he can see the future. I think Manhunter is the one that is actually giving the premonitions to Bruce Wayne, and he is more agreeable to it since he is the only human on the team or the most resourceful one. I'm sure if there was a sequel, this would be explained. So I'm kind of guessing. We do know that the Flash does visit him BvS and that matches up at the end of the movie.

Matthew McLean

Regarding fired directors getting a 'second chance', this is actually the second time WB has done this. They had Richard Donner re-cut Superman II for home video release decades after firing him

Sean Graham

The straightforward 3 movie setup they mentioned was for Best of the Worst, I think that's still coming

Galewolf

I liked "I'm rich."...

Manuel Johnen

300 is his crowning achievement and gift to humanity

21:13 - So what IS Batman's single good one-liner in 80 years according to Rich? My vote is for "You weigh a little more than 108..."

Clancy Murphy

The theatrical cut may have been technically the worse movie, but it felt absolutely nothing like a Zack Snyder movie in any way, shape or form (especially after the incoherent cinematic nightmare that was "BvS"), and therefore I'll always... ung... "appreciate" it more... Because let's be clear here, the only thing Snyder ever directed that was REMOTELY tolerable were the first ten minutes of "Dawn of the Dead"... and after that, he should have never been allowed near a camera again...

Manuel Johnen

Excellent! Will watch it tonight. I watched the Snyder cut Thursday night in one go. I enjoyed it quite a bit and think it’s a huge improvement over what Whedon made. I wonder where the DCEU would be today if Snyder was able to put out his version at the time. It’ll be interesting to see if this new version results in some sequels.

Mike St Louis

I think even I could do a better CGI hotdog, and I don't even know how to.

Renus Dewberry

Reminder: Snyder had 2-3 years to LOOK UP RLM AND SEE HOW TO FIX JLA!!! Okay joking aside, Snyder has had the ability to use MULTIPLE HUNDREDS of opinions and advice, while yes many of the scenes were readded and unedited and not reshoots, it cannot be overlookd that THIS CUT wouldn't habve been released in 2018, Snyder was given a Redo and people wanted a redo so it was gonna succeed in more places, but as RLM points out the Movie is still not perfect and still is the same story. So if your a Hashfrag ReleaseTheSnyderCut type, congratualations you got a better movie, but it proves NOTHING! Okay maybe not nothing but very little.

Munchman

That Paul Feig reveal... bone chilling stuff

Conor

So wait... is this the new Half in the Bag that was mentioned here a couple weeks ago? I thought that one was going to be a straightforward 3 movie set-up? This seems to have jumped ahead of that? Or was this it? So confused.

Matthew Gladney

It's so funny when you make a feminism remark on Whedon while, if you wanted to bring SJW outrage to this movie you could because the Whedon cut pretty much had the black hero and heart of the movie removed. It's also an astounding decision considering how people lost their pants over Black Panter because black power. We are all BLM until our movie is to long and we need to cut something. :D

Michael Matzat

I still think it's a bit rich to call it "more cohesive" or "the original vision" or whatever because at the end of the day it's a bloated 4 hour long.... thing. Movie? If Zack Snyder hadn't had the family tragedy, I firmly believe the theatrical cut still would have been just as strangely truncated but with less awkward humor presumably. There wouldn't have been all these character setups for Cyborg or Flash or the action scene for Wonder Woman because there's absolutely 0 chance the executives would have let him submit a 4 hour long or even 3 hour long cut. All those scenes that people seem to like only exist *because* he got to pace it at a completely unrestrained length as a streaming release plus the benefit of hindsight since it was produced 3 years later.

Damn, my friend...that is a good Monday!

Jeanne Watson

This movie...actually looks interesting. I think I'll watch it (I'm usually not into comic-book movies)

Bort Ward

Ooh, I hope we get a Mike and Rich Talk About Doom Patrol

Ben Staub

I know this is a non sequester, but I hope now that the "Snyder Cut" is out, I hope Marvel releases the "Corman Cut" of the 1994 Fantastic Four movie, perhaps as a DVD extra on their F4 movie if nothing else.

Mike Kai (The Limerick Guy)

I just finished Part 2. Does it pick up at all when the first Act is over?

Mike Kai (The Limerick Guy)

I was very happy when DC announced this upcoming HITB

CH

YESSSS!! My bf is off today I don't have to wait for him to watch it this time. Me: Half in the Worst... The Snyder Cut My bf: They released it?! Me: Yeah. I wanna go get high first real quick. Bf: I'm gonna shower real quick! *runs to the bathroom* We... live a simple life. ;) And we love you guys, or whatever.

Rachel Snead

Time to watch 3 people talk about a movie I have no interest in viewing.

Joshua Mannix

The Best of the Bag!

Peter Varga

I think a Patron asked if this would be a Half in the Bag or a Best of the Worst? That person nailed it.

Dirrdevil

I have to be strong and put this off until tomorrow as it is bed time now, I can't wait to wake up tomorrow!

hamish smith

I’ve made it to Part 4... this film is my Everest and I will die trying to watch it.

securethong

Ugh. Can’t wait for work to be over now

Michael

My day just got better!

Ken Harris