Book 10 Discussion stuff

Hey all - Been reading the comments as I juggle a few life things and keep writing / editing.

This chapter/post here is basically a kind of spoiler / discussion thing so we'll keep a lot of things discussed in this section. So if you're not wanting to see certain things -- avoid this post.

Alright i'll jump into some of the first questions and try to go from there!

1 - Kherban turned down surrender -

Max just smiled as the rock god raised a sword tip at the empty dome.

“So, Rocky. No surrender? I’ll give you one chance.”

A gravelly laugh came from his opponent.

“Surrender? Me? From you? I shall enjoy taking my time, rubbing your blood and flesh out of the cracks between my stones.”

“Well that sounded disgusting,” Max replied. “Just remember. I offered.”

1. Max got points - never got worlds from other world champs he defeated (not a true god so system didn't give - one of those errors). So he earned points from igarra's world as he took it over but he couldn't do anything with those points. As far as defending the current worlds he has - stuff comes later in book 10

2. Max's 'base' stats are lower than Kherbanns. His equipment pushes him way over the line. Book 10 starting - Max's stats are:
   1865 str
   1778 dex
   1831 con
   1431 int
   1429 wis
   His bonuses from EVERYTHING else are what makes him broken (toss in an artifact that doubles it all...) As for the elves and even Savantus - no gains - none of them high stats higher than his 'base' stats.

3. One wasn't adjusted so stored power. Planetary / System Travl / Melee / Dual Wield - Upgraded. Then he got Celestial gate (6)

4. He has souls - ended book 9 with about 1600. And in end if needed he can bum some off Sog - it's kinda moot but I'll remember to touchup this in story (good catch).

5. 50% to defenses in those categories is good. But against gods remember things tier differently. Power scales, damage upgrades. So yes, his resistances are 'good' compared to the normal adventurer but not against a god. When we consider celestial kinds of damage, there will be aspects that play more into it. This is the tiers.

6. Death Magic - We'll run into one of these 'true' death magic / corrupted beings later. Max isn't there... its more of a Savantas 'mentality' but way beyond that (Think Litch / Necro /etc). The 'glee' that comes from killing is part of the whole consume/devour/command aspect that sends most 'hosts' (not Hoste's) into the power hungry beings. It's a form of corruption but different as the black skill basically takes over the host/being.

7. Yes - I'm an idiot- its pants - I need to remember this and fix. (good catch).

8. Max's original weapon is good - but not at the same tier as the artifact. The potential scaling comes with a lot - (How long did it take for Fowls hammer to upgrade). Max isn't also tower climbing anymore so his 'killing' will be reserved to less situations. Now... his artifact... this will grow from being used on the very things its designed to defeat. We got a lot of gods to kill to upgrade it. He is duel wielding though for max stats

9. Attack Skills affect base stats. We forget how much that matters though.
   Take
   str - 1800 for simplicity. Berserker = 5400.
   str - 1800 - Power Strike = 5400
   We've now gone from 1800 to 10,800 and haven't factored in the items/buffs yet.
   Don't forget Max also hits as a being one 'size/tier' higher.
   
   There's a massive boost of stuff he's putting out there are all numbers behind the scenes.
   
   SO let's look at Kherbann. His stats were above 2500. He had racial stuff / skills pushed him to 'high' heights.
   
   But against Max - swinging with a weapon designed to inflict damage on a god which acts 'differently' than the other abilities (Similar to backstab) and you can imagine how a single attack obliterated a leg.
   
   Base stats for max with items is a 10k Str. 100% damage boost on that attack is... yeah... Had it been his other weapon, we wouldn't have seen the leg suffer how it did.

10. Stats from other gods - again - rules in place - only from ones higher than him. Beating up on Tanila / Fowl / etc wouldn't earn him a stat point.

11. The transporter on Igarra's world (and other worlds). There's a set limit of tower lvl 60+ to use one. You pass that tower level and your world has one, then you can travel to a world with one. Most worlds won't build one till after the 300 years for lots of reasons (which you might hypothesize on)

12. Fowl as a warrior / meat shield - I mentioned this in chapter 5's comments but without sharing 'everything' about Fowl - he's a bit broken on the damage absorption / thorn setup. Remember he defeated his king later in book 9. Why/how? Because he deals that much damage back and with his newest skills picked up in the tower, combined with his crazy high constitution / items / skills - he isn't something you want to assault head on.
    The best way to attack him is with magic (but he has abilities against that - I didn't go into details for obvious reason for later in this arc but against Talina's mother and his 'spell magnet' skill) it's still going to be hard to just 'pop' him off unless you're way above him. His speed isn't the best but he did improve some thanks to the 250 to all stats potions he picked up + a few others.
    
    He's not 'Max Hoste' level broke in every way but I hinted at it in book 9. Max would potentially 'kill' himself striking Fowl while the dwarf is full defense mode, all skills, if he struck the dwarf's shield. And that was before he had a god killing weapon... now imagine if Max struck Fowl with taht god killing weapon, doing god based damage and had 'that' reflected back.
    
    Fowls' going to get more time in the coming books after we hit a certain point and the one thing he's lacking in right now (you can try to guess) will be slowly resolved as he learns his weakpoints and fixes them. Think Ockrim but we're not there yet (and I reveal Ockrim and Phaius' age later - those chapters are already written).

13. Yeah - I need to change Name of Max's other weapon to Sunder. Ty for catch.

14. Skills picked up via Chromie - They're all Bob side - we'll see later. He's a system being so no 'Max entity' type skills.

15. Baking not evolved yet - he hasn't killed bakers a lot of bakers... it's a personal thing.... (and the ones he did were when Bob was locked)

16. Yup - common, uncommon, rare, epic, legendary and legendary +. Then we have T1/2/3/etc for god stuff

17. Need to update armor crafting - ty!

18. festering touch is useless against most gods unless he pays to rank it up (or kills something with a ranked up version)

19. Max completed his bloodline - chapter 541 against Chromie in book 9

20. Seth Pendal... the 'orginal' Seth Pendal - guess we gota see what happens if he shows up or not ;)

21. 3rd milestones have happened for Max in book 10 - I haven't shown em yet... I'll make a mental note to add them (sorry)

22. Max yelled to Tanila they were having a girl as he ran off to fight Chromie (and got in trouble for it)

23. So the Jazzjak thing - Still considering stuff (but you'll see later on why I did what I did also... but I'm still toying with changing name some.)
    
    
    Ok that's all for now - hit me with anything else you might wana ask and if i'm willing to answer I will. Currently on chapter 62 of Book 10