Case 200: The Zodiac (Part 1/4)
Added 2022-01-29 09:12:57 +0000 UTCDuring the 1960s, California saw a wave of senseless, unsolved slayings. Cab driver Ray Davis was murdered in cold blood after an anonymous killer warned of his intentions. Two young couples – Robert Domingos and Linda Edwards, and Johnny and Joyce Swindle – were gunned down in separate yet similar attacks. Popular college student Cheri Jo Bates was killed after leaving a campus library late at night. Each attack was different, yet there were common threads throughout. Were they the work of multiple culprits – or one of the most notorious serial killers in US history, the Zodiac?
Team:
Anonymous Host - narration
Jess Forsayeth- research, writing
Elsha McGill- writing
Erin Munro - writing
Milly Raso - research, writing, creative direction
Mike Migas - production, music
Andrew D.B. Joslyn - music
Comments
I actually kind of have to agree, big love to casefile but sometimes I find myself rolling my eyes because of things that sound like assumptions, for example “the couple were at the lake reminiscing of times passed” well, unfortunately you don’t know what they were talking about because they are deceased. I mean it sets the scene but it’s not factual as it is presented at times.
Rachelle Good-Neilsen
2022-02-23 05:21:53 +0000 UTCIf you are referring to the conversation/last words of Bates, and/or the thoughts going through the killer's mind those were supplied by the killer himself in one of his letters to police/newspapers.
Raymond Danford
2022-02-14 18:16:24 +0000 UTCI must have missed it. Can you be more specific?
Raymond Danford
2022-02-14 17:20:23 +0000 UTCThanks for your input Lauren, if you familiarise yourself with the colloquial use of frothing, hopefully you can understand where I’m coming from
CSJ
2022-02-08 12:11:28 +0000 UTCThis is so inappropriate tbh
Lauren Vanderpoorten
2022-02-08 11:33:23 +0000 UTCI'm really happy you guys are back, but I hope you're okay with some feedback regarding this episode. To be honest, I'm a little uncomfortable with how speculation is being presented as fact, both regarding emotions/motivations/final words (in general: things that no one could possibly know) and the actual crimes being Zodiac. I understand why this was done without a disclaimer from a narrative point of view, but it is not what I've come to expect from this podcast.
Lauren Vanderpoorten
2022-02-07 12:29:53 +0000 UTCI am enjoying this one very much. Casefile’s take is so interesting. Congratulations on episode 200!
Christine Allen
2022-02-07 01:33:57 +0000 UTCI am too!
Jacqueline
2022-02-06 19:08:33 +0000 UTCI’m listening to this home alone and it’s giving me chills and I’ve had to check that my doors are locked twice. This is on level with EARS/ON and Balengalo. Casefile’s approach is always excellent. I have not liked a lot of the zodiac reporting in the past and the way you are presenting the story is incredibly different. I’m always so impressed with the music, the editing, the narration and the excellent research and writing. Good work guys! Congrats on episode 200!
Saraneth
2022-02-05 23:15:44 +0000 UTCFunding it hard to follow all the skipping around but hoping you will unmask Zodiac!
Alison
2022-02-04 08:55:13 +0000 UTCI'm really liking that you're including the NEW evidence that has just came to light not so long ago and how that the Zodiac's identity just really may be known.
Sean Boulden
2022-02-02 08:47:18 +0000 UTCIt’s definitely different but I like it. Maybe add the same starting sound or soundtrack during the change would help separate it
Rebekah
2022-02-02 02:40:14 +0000 UTCThe zodiac movie with Gyllenhaal was great, highly recommend
PoseidonXcomics
2022-02-02 02:20:16 +0000 UTCThanks, Casefile! Despite the popularity of Zodiac, I've never been able to get into it. Too many fan theories to weed through to get to the case. Glad you're doing it because I feel I might have a chance to understand it!
Demi
2022-02-01 15:19:30 +0000 UTCNot sure I like the new date style? Great case though
Abby Moret
2022-02-01 13:55:42 +0000 UTCThanks, Jayson, this change is for Zodiac only, but we will keep it in mind if people enjoy these little sound effects from time to time.
Casefile True Crime
2022-02-01 08:55:29 +0000 UTCAlso, welcome back, and I hope you had a great holiday break!
Jayson green
2022-01-31 23:22:27 +0000 UTCHey Casefile! Love the new way you're narrating the dates now, I ALWAYS miss the dates when I'm listening to podcasts in the background but this change in sound reminds me to listen in and take notice of the dates and time. It really really helps me follow along the story better! Thank you for another amazing episode and I'm pumped as for the next three!!!
Jayson green
2022-01-31 23:21:56 +0000 UTCGreat episode as always!
Madeliene Ceballos
2022-01-31 17:34:15 +0000 UTCit’s super weird to hear Riverside City College on Casefile considering I go there lol. Kind of creepy to hear street names and places that are super familiar to you.
Madeliene Ceballos
2022-01-31 17:34:03 +0000 UTCYay I’m so excited!! Missed casefile
Isobel Wilson
2022-01-31 12:54:13 +0000 UTCWell even that I don’t actually know I could be wrong lollll nearly all of this is new
Stefan Bradley
2022-01-31 08:01:07 +0000 UTCYes and no. I don't like that they began with the conjecture. That should come at the end. But next week should be the real Zodiac cases.
Bob Trenwith
2022-01-31 07:36:14 +0000 UTCWow! A Zodiac virgin!
Bob Trenwith
2022-01-31 07:33:48 +0000 UTCI skip over any episodes connected to the occult, and that horse racing one. I have to say, I believe Casefile's choice of cases started well, then became ordinary, but have been great again over the past year or so.
Bob Trenwith
2022-01-31 07:31:51 +0000 UTCI didn’t even know that Stefan! Ack spoilers!
Jacqueline
2022-01-31 06:10:27 +0000 UTCOnly thing I know about this case is they were never caught and they left coded messages. But even if you watched all 1000+ docos on this surely a 4 part Casefile deep dive will teach you something you don’t know? I’m so pumped for this series!!
Stefan Bradley
2022-01-31 05:18:46 +0000 UTCEven though it is a well known case, the way that casefile researches and presents the story makes it very worthwhile to listen to. I am already enjoying it.
Kim LS
2022-01-31 02:51:32 +0000 UTCPeople are out here complaining about the Zodiac being a well known case, meanwhile I don’t know the story 🤷♀️😂 I’m keen for the 4 parter, Casefile 🥰
Maya George
2022-01-31 02:45:41 +0000 UTCSo good! Thank you casefile team 😇
Kim LS
2022-01-31 01:20:08 +0000 UTCThen skip over it, not every episode should have to connect with you. I skip over the bombings/disasters episodes, but know people like them.
PoseidonXcomics
2022-01-31 00:57:21 +0000 UTCI have waited SO LONG for casefile to come back and I was hoping for something so much better :( But you can't be perfect all the time. You are still my favourite truecrimepodcast. Just please don't change the voices and sound effects of the narration. Casefile is PERFECT exactly how it has been. Greetings from Sweden.
Zana
2022-01-31 00:47:53 +0000 UTCWELCOME BACK!! (Excellent choice too)
sara ferry
2022-01-30 16:48:55 +0000 UTCThe first episode makes it clear they’re going beyond Arthur Leigh Allen. It might be a “popular” case, but few other podcasts or documentaries are as thorough as Casefile.
Hannah Binkley
2022-01-30 14:42:59 +0000 UTCMust be awesome to spend countless hours providing content for people to listen to, to then get feedback like here. I'm really keen to hear Casefile's take on this very complex case.
Nicci Foster
2022-01-30 10:26:04 +0000 UTCYes, it's a sound effect just on the dates and locations.
Casefile True Crime
2022-01-30 09:26:23 +0000 UTCI'm disappointed, too. Zodiac is one of the most heavily covered and researched killers on the planet. It's a bit underwhelming imo.
Annie G
2022-01-30 03:41:44 +0000 UTCThey mentioned this in one of their older AMA’s.
J. Chips
2022-01-30 02:39:34 +0000 UTCAfter spending a couple of hours looking this up, I am not convinced. All mention of this possibility is in articles that try to connect this case with the Zodiac. There is no mention of it in the few newspaper articles of the day I can find. I'm convinced that someone has tried to forge connections between the Zodiac and old cases, and been very loose with their "facts" in doing so.. If that "fact" hadn't been mentioned, there would have been nothing to suggest a connection.
Bob Trenwith
2022-01-29 21:52:32 +0000 UTCWhere have they ever stated that goal?
Bob Trenwith
2022-01-29 21:38:34 +0000 UTCOne hour of wild speculation by amateur "historians" and internet sleuths. Connected by the most popular ammo? Taunting the police and media? Still good stories but hardly The Zodiac
Mikhail Komarov
2022-01-29 20:08:17 +0000 UTCit's just for the dates, from what i can tell. i think it might be a stylistic choice
Sasha Jennings
2022-01-29 20:02:54 +0000 UTC🙄🙄🙄🙄
Austin Peppers
2022-01-29 19:37:19 +0000 UTCAbsolutely frothing 🤤
CSJ
2022-01-29 19:17:52 +0000 UTCOh damn!!!!!
B-randy D
2022-01-29 18:49:31 +0000 UTCThe Zodiac, really? I thought you all were trying to cover lesser known crimes.
J. Chips
2022-01-29 18:07:19 +0000 UTC🥳🥳🥳 ohhhhh I can’t wait!!!! Way to start the year off with a serious BANG!!!
Tara Z
2022-01-29 16:48:45 +0000 UTCWhy are there so many audio issues?
Kristin Blinco
2022-01-29 16:47:46 +0000 UTCIt's similar, but some of the old bonus content is missing there as we just set it up.
Casefile True Crime
2022-01-29 16:47:35 +0000 UTCWow surprise! Thank you casefile team 🥳🥳🥳
Alexandra Peshcherenko
2022-01-29 15:44:01 +0000 UTCIf you look up the couple’s case, it’s told various times that investigators deduced that the killer ordered Linda to tie up her husband. Whatever they saw at the crime scene seemed to have produced this deduction on their part.
Issak
2022-01-29 15:09:30 +0000 UTCIs casefile premium on Apple podcasts the same as Patreon?
David Knight
2022-01-29 14:37:38 +0000 UTCOkay, Casefile! Coming in 🔥 for 2022! 🙌
Mandy G
2022-01-29 13:45:50 +0000 UTC👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Cathy
2022-01-29 12:56:25 +0000 UTC🥳 Y'all made my Saturday!!! 🥳
K. Smith
2022-01-29 12:36:22 +0000 UTCIn the second case, how do you know that the girl was ordered to tie up her boyfriend? There were no survivors and no witnesses. I hope you're not just assuming it must have been identical to the Lake Berryessa case.
Bob Trenwith
2022-01-29 12:32:40 +0000 UTCOh it's the final boss 😳😳
PoseidonXcomics
2022-01-29 12:26:00 +0000 UTCWe change it sometimes for the multi-parters.
Casefile True Crime
2022-01-29 11:12:32 +0000 UTCSheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet son!
Jovaras Skanas
2022-01-29 10:12:02 +0000 UTCI want to report a thumbs up 👍....no....a double thumbs up 👍👍
Sean James
2022-01-29 09:50:47 +0000 UTCYesssssssssss! Excited, but I’ll have to wait four weeks as I binge listen to the multi parters 😊
Nicola Carroll
2022-01-29 09:39:53 +0000 UTCIs it usual to put the name of the perpetrator in the title? I know it's a pseudonym, but ....
Bob Trenwith
2022-01-29 09:31:15 +0000 UTCOMG so excited for this one
Amber Randall
2022-01-29 09:21:58 +0000 UTCAwesome! Started listening straight away. Is it just me or is Casey's narration different to normal? I think his inflection seems different and more conversational
Christie Ord
2022-01-29 09:19:37 +0000 UTCYippee! So glad you’re back! 🎉
Carla Obee
2022-01-29 09:18:45 +0000 UTCFantastic. Can’t wait to listen
Erica Colliss
2022-01-29 09:15:39 +0000 UTC👐👐👐👐 what a way to start the year!
Tamika Parker
2022-01-29 09:14:50 +0000 UTCWow! So excited!
Ben Barnes
2022-01-29 09:14:43 +0000 UTCOmg yes! Can’t wait!!
Neil A.
2022-01-29 09:14:00 +0000 UTC
