Maps and Treasure
Added 2018-05-14 06:42:02 +0000 UTC
Dear Insane Children,
Back today with a couple of bits of new artwork and announcement for our next...
LIVE STREAM on YouTube
Hit that link to set a reminder! Join us tomorrow morning (Hong Kong Time, 9AM - PST 6PM) for a live stream where I continue to fall, drown, and die through "American McGee's Alice" while discussing Alice: Asylum, Out of the Woods, and the Chaos Coin.
First up in the update - some have been asking for progress on the embroidered patches. Here you go...
The designs for patches and packaging are DONE. And everything's been sent to the factory. They've told us it's a very busy time for manufacturing - embroidered patch season?! - so we've not yet actually started production. As soon as they do start production and give us a delivery estimate I'll be sure to share it here with you first.
But let's assume ~1 month still for manufacturing... then everything gets sent to Shenzhen for shipping... then another ~20 days for delivery. So, we'er probably looking at around 2 months before you might expect to receive these in the mail.
I am pushing Yan to push the factory to make things go faster. Again, will update once I know more. Your patience and understanding are appreciated! :)
Next up... some artwork from Joey. Work continues on the world-map layout and design. I think this is "final" enough - so I've asked Joey to move on to some visual representations of what this setup might look like in-game (as in your view of these islands floating around the ether from a location on one of the islands).

Meanwhile Alex continues to make progress on the Chaos Coin and the EA PPT.

The heart symbol was in the drawing I shared with you last time we saw the coin concept illustration... but in this new version I feel it's overpowering the Chaos symbol. What do you think? Does the heart detract from the chaos? Should we keep it like this or ask for a version without the heart?
Lastly, we've got some mock-ups of the Out of the Woods card game box...



We've turned around a couple of minor comments on these and sent them off to manufacturing. With that done we now have the game, illustrated book, and coloring book being manufactured! Once that's done we can start sending these to customers around the world. Yay!
If you want to grab a copy of Out of the Woods you can do so here.
See you all in the live stream tomorrow!
From Shanghai with Love,
-American (and Lulu)
You are so cool! Wish u all the best!)))
2018-05-21 23:47:47 +0000 UTC
Maybe try inverting whats there? place the heart to the back and the chaos symbol up? I think that would allow for the design to remain the same, and soften the heart symbol.
2018-05-18 15:53:06 +0000 UTC
I agree the heart is a bit overwhelming, it makes me think of Kingdom Hearts before Alice. Perhaps you could make the heart much shallower, like the background of the Chinese coin in the next post.
2018-05-15 18:53:31 +0000 UTC
I think both the heart and chaos work. I think if you want to have the chaos and the heart to be on the same side of the coin, maybe darken the chaos symbol. I do not know how easy that would be done on a physical coin though.
Morgan LeFay Dethen
2018-05-15 00:58:50 +0000 UTC
I love the designs of the coin and the final of the map. The heart does seem to be a bit lost in symbol, would there be any way of making the heart duller? The Out of the Woods card game box looks stunning!
2018-05-15 00:52:37 +0000 UTC
i love the design it conveys a message more of chaos in the heart to me which for Alice seems to be true..i can see how it gets lost but you can still see it and i think it is groovy...do you have to be at a particular tier when the goal is reached to have a coin? finally catching a live stream after youtube kept notifying me one hour to late
2018-05-15 00:23:07 +0000 UTC
I really like the coin's design. I can see how the chaos symbol gets a bit lost, perhaps make the heart and chaos symbols different colours?
Jen
2018-05-14 22:51:59 +0000 UTC
I personally love the coin design! Looks fantastic and screams “AMA”!
Codie K Conklin
2018-05-14 22:18:02 +0000 UTC
The heart is the first thing you see on the coin. You notice the chaos symbol later. Perhaps there's a way to give them a more even balance... That said, the coin looks absolutely gorgeous as it is!
2018-05-14 21:40:57 +0000 UTC
I am still unsure about the coin design. As you guys said in the last stream, it can get a little too busy and the silver shine and lens flare make it seem a little cheap. I'd much prefer it to be more minimalistic, just highlighting the heart and the chaos symbol. The way it looks now, it would fit much more into god of war as a shield for a valkyrie ;) Loving the world map idea, though
2018-05-14 19:31:13 +0000 UTC
Lol damn, ill have to wait after Ramadan to get the patches. Oh well. Great work always require's time.
Btw the artwork for the game fits perfectly for the prequel. I mean the first Alice game came in 2000, the designs look advanced and old at the same time (in a way) I say it works perfectly.
Saleh Abu-Rashid
2018-05-14 17:26:50 +0000 UTC
The world map looks awesome! And I don't mind waiting two more months for patches, Im just excited have some! As far as the coin, I like the heart in there as it makes me think immediately of Alice, to me it looks like the chaos symbol and heart is combined. I say leave it be. Out of the Woods boxes look great too!
2018-05-14 16:44:36 +0000 UTC
Agreed with others, the heart is great, but it does overshadow the chaos symbol a tad, if it was behind it would be perfect
Helloween4545
2018-05-14 15:26:07 +0000 UTC
I like the idea of the heart, but on first glance that’s all I saw I had to go back and look for the chaos symbol. So I’d like to see one without the heart
2018-05-14 14:57:32 +0000 UTC
First of all can't wait for the patches to come (I haven't decided where to put them yet)
It's nice to see the map coming together, I'm just curious about how all the islands will join together to create the map from the first game.
I agree with you American that the heart does overpower the chaos symbol, maybe you could have the chaos symbol surrounding the heart like it's trapped.
The out of the woods stuff looks great (limited edition furry box perhaps?)
Can't wait for the stream
-Bye
2018-05-14 14:37:17 +0000 UTC
I think if you tarnish the background behind the heart and chaos symbol to sort of represent the black ooze style from Madness Returns and then maybe make the Chais symbol like a copper or gold tone and add dried blood over the heart it would in turn give the coins depth and allow them to be seen together and individually for each symbol including the coin itself
2018-05-14 14:36:32 +0000 UTC
You know those coins made of multiple types of metal? Maybe that’s what you need for the coin. Add a second metal to the coin for color and contrast.
Hawk Owsley
2018-05-14 14:10:50 +0000 UTC
Regarding the coin... I like the heart and the chaos together and wrapped around each other... The bottom spike of the chaos symbol is the most obscured, if that could be above the heart (and maybe the other two downward spikes) I think the chaos symbol would be clearer.
2018-05-14 13:48:35 +0000 UTC
I really like the coin but yes the heart is more eye-catching than the chaos symbol. Please don't take it out though! Putting it behind the chaos symbol could work better. Love the map! I agree with Carola latin would make for a nice touch. Sorry, I'm always working when you have live streams :( but i'll watch later. Just went and bought another console version of AMR game! haha
2018-05-14 13:26:14 +0000 UTC
I think the design of the coin is fine. People entitled to it probably also own a Chaos necklace. So I guess they're already familiar with the idea that Chaos will be important :D
Make Nine Inch Nails great again
2018-05-14 13:19:20 +0000 UTC
Great art as always! I'll echo the sentiment of the others and suggest pushing the heart behind the chaos symbol and then those coins will look perfect. I also think Carola is on to something about the "Alice Asylum" text on one of the inner rings; maybe change it to "Solve et Coagula"? The OOTW deck also makes me think if you're looking for more stuff for Alice fans to buy, why not a deck of playing cards?
2018-05-14 11:52:42 +0000 UTC
The map looks great. However, you should consider changing the words "Alice asylum" to maybe something in Latin? I feel like having the name of the game on the map itself brings you a bit out of the atmosphere.
Lionor_
2018-05-14 11:07:19 +0000 UTC
Definitely think the map should be an art print, it's stunning. As for the Chaos Coin, honestly wouldn't have even noticed the chaos star if I didn't know too look for it. Depending on how subtle you would like it depends on what you do moving forwards. If you want to have the Chaos as the more pronounced trait then bring it forward, but if you only want to hint at it, then leave it as it is. You could always use a two colour system, instead of a monochrome
2018-05-14 10:56:47 +0000 UTC
Chaos coin- any way to simply up the contrast of the design? Also it seems the heart is more... Elevated than the chaos?
Hell yea on the art print.
Thanks for the production updates! Anything from you is well worth the wait!
Sarah Heist
2018-05-14 09:17:53 +0000 UTC
World map is looking AMAZING. Art print for sure. Right? Right. ^‿^
I'm loving the Chaos Coin! <3 The heart is overpowering the chaos symbol a bit. I do like it there, but maybe reverse it; Chaos symbol on top of the heart, not completely though. I like how they intertwine.
Any idea on what goal you'd like for those yet? 1500? 2000? Curious.
Looking forward to the live-stream as always!
2018-05-14 08:45:49 +0000 UTC
In my opinion the heart detracts from the chaos symbol, perhaps make it smaller, and place it inside of the chaos symbol? I love the map! OOTW box is epic! I look forward to receiving my copy :)
2018-05-14 08:32:18 +0000 UTC
The world map from Joey looks really cool! I really love the style of the cutscenes in AMR, so yay! Perhaps it should be an art print? I think it should.
Maybe just place the Chaos symbol on top of the heart on the Chaos coin instead of vice versa? I like the heart being there, it feels very "Alice-y" to me.
The OOTW box looks suuuuper awesome!! :D Nice little details!
In an attempt to bring back the random ´questions to the live stream, is it Mandarin or Cantonese that you speak? Do you speak other languages apart from that and English?
2018-05-14 08:11:30 +0000 UTC
I concur with the idea of bringing the chaos symbol to the forefront of the coin, looks pretty damn schwifty!
2018-05-14 07:45:24 +0000 UTC
Wooow, that map looks amazing! It's really beautiful! I could have it on my wall! About the coin, maybe try with the heart underneath the chaos symbol, now it looks like the heart is swallowing the symbol. And yeeey for a new stream!! Sadly it's always 3 in the morning here in Sweden, so I always watch it a few hours later.
2018-05-14 07:15:08 +0000 UTC
Man that map looks awesome, and maybe lay the chaos symbol over the heart more and have some of the arrows point under as it is currently. Maybe kind of flip flop the layering. Either way I'd be happy. I will continue to eagerly await the patches :).
2018-05-14 07:06:00 +0000 UTC
The heart does look stronger than the chaos symbol in this design, maybe because it goes over top of the chaos symbol spikes at the top and bottom? if it was just underneath it might be less obvious ^_^ Could also be that the spot highlights on the illustration are on the bits of the heart that go over the chaos sign, attracting more attention ^_^
Catheryn Alice North
2018-05-14 07:03:31 +0000 UTC
That box looks so awesome. Now I have to buy out of the woods too.
Davinellulinvega
2018-05-14 06:49:25 +0000 UTC