Order and Chaos
Added 2017-11-30 04:16:35 +0000 UTC
Dear Patrons,
It's been quite hectic around here since our last update. I've been in Thailand working to get my sailboat ready for the upcoming season and Pirate Jam 2018.
Boat work and getting things done in Thailand both serve as constant reminders of the nature of chaos. A boat is chaos and entropy floating together inside a container of fiberglass, steel, lines, bolts, seals, valves, and wiring - all competing against the harsh elements of the sea. We constantly strive to bring order to the situation through planning, maintenance, and vigilance.
But our best efforts to control chaos only serve to put in place the elements upon which chaos thrives - things in order naturally succumb to the passage of time. This is the realm of the Hindu goddess Kali. And now, after a series of chaotic days, I missed my chance to re-name my boat "Lulu" and have decided instead on "Chaos" - "กลียุค" (Thai: Klīyukh) (Devanagari: कली युग).

Speaking of Chaos... For Patrons who backed at higher levels we're nearly finished with production of the silver Chaos Necklaces. They're being produced in two sizes - a smaller one ostensibly for men and a larger one as originally presented. Once they're in hand I'll send out a quick survey to find out which one those Patrons want. And we'll add them to the Mysterious shop for everyone else who wants one.
Now, as we continue trying to put our plans for "Asylum" in order...
Joey AND Sonny have new art for us! And our old friend Omri Koresh has signaled interest in joining the art team. I've added Omri as a new goal here on Patreon. Help spread the word!

Now on to the latest from Joey...
November 28th
I did Hatter wearing suit and later, sth. happened destoried his place, he lost his suit and wearing his shirt, the shirt was also kind of dirty, I made it look like just been through a fire. There is an extra version of his dress, just came to my mind it would be intresting to have that china outfit, then when it was broken, there was flesh underneath. I used hatter to show this, maybe we can use this on small enemies on this stage.
Also I did his teapot castle, I rendered 2 images, we could pick one from them, there should be a destoried version, I will come up with that later.
Tell me what do you think.
I am working on his lab, should be done soon.
-Joey

And we have two new pieces from Sonny...
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Let me know what you think in the comments below. Once I'm back in Shanghai (this weekend) I'll set up another live stream with Martin and we'll talk about everything that's going on.
Also, let me know what art print you'd like to go out this month. Lots of great art to choose from. What's your favorite?
From Krabi,
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I took aspects from the digital painting version of Rabbit from Alice 2 that you linked and took some of those aspects and added them to Sonny's piece and tweaked some of the proportions a bit : <a href="https://imgur.com/cNp1cqH" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/cNp1cqH</a> (not my junk, and no disrespect meant to Sonny by editing his piece, or undermining, just adding these things to convey fan feedback)
2017-12-03 05:36:13 +0000 UTC
The art are looking really good. I like both the new Hatter's domain. Both could be used in the game, the one without the red plants could be the very beginning of the of Hatter's domain, which Alice visits in the very first hour or so of the game. The one with the red plants could be used as part of the transition of Hatter and Alice's state of mind. I will point out that the white teapot on the right side kind of bothers me, adding some blue designs on it will help blend it in with the rest of the castle.
The family portrait is looking really good, looking forward to Omri's art.
Hatter is looking good. His reddish skin tone does make him look more alive. The china suit sure looks interesting, but I am not sure if it will fit the fact that he will become mechanical later in the story. I do agree with Joey on using the china suit concept on enemies in the area.
The March Hare looks good. I do kind of agree with some saying that the White Rabbit doesn't quite fit with the rest of the game. It looks too cheerful and happy, while the game is leaning towards the more darker/grim side. Sonny should try to draw White Rabbit to match this one, so that his appearance change is not too drastic. <a href="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/americanmcgeesalice/images/9/92/AMR_Rabbit_render.png/revision/latest?cb=20140502072129" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/americanmcgeesalice/images/9/92/AMR_Rabbit_render.png/revision/latest?cb=20140502072129</a> (No, this is not a picture of my junk. I promise.)
Nonetheless, I still really like the artwork of this version White Rabbit.
The Queen's Castle looks pretty good for an art print. Speaking of the reward for the art print. The $50 tier rewards should be something else and will not get the art print, like the set of pins designed by Jennifer D'aww. The $100 tier rewards will be the art print AND the set of pins. I think this is fair as the $50 tier does not include MONTHLY art print like the $100 tier. If the $50 patrons did get art print each month, then it will be unfair for the $100 patrons to pay more to get the same thing as the $50. As the time goes on, this will be a problem and you might want to start thinking about what to do with the $50 and $100 tiers. My suggestion is that you get rid of the $100 tier completely and merge the rewards with the $50. Or maybe discuss with the fans about this and how to make it more fair for everyone.
2017-12-02 05:58:05 +0000 UTC
I like Order and Chaos, though I really like the family portrait. Something about it really speaks to me. For art this month I like the House of Fire and Fury. I prefer the art with Alice in it when possible I think it sort of shows just how big the rest of the environment is, which makes it even more interesting
2017-11-30 23:30:28 +0000 UTC
I'm still SOOO blown away by the Teapot world! it is so incredibly beautiful <3
Love the Hatter and March Hare, but the White Rabbit looks a bit wrong to me; I don't like the moustache, and he generally looks too "human" to me. The March Hare still has rabbit legs, where the White Rabbit doesn't.
2017-11-30 19:08:54 +0000 UTC
It is so strange seeing these characters in their 'former' glory! I especially like White Rabbit. Even though he doesn't look too much like 'McGee' version of himself, maybe there could be some plot around how he became such a shadow of himself in the first game. He seems like a very good friend of Alice not quite yet destroyed by her PTSD.
I am a fan of Omri, so I am totally happy that you want to include him! Looking forward to seeing his contribution and how he will fit into the game's style.
2017-11-30 17:56:16 +0000 UTC
I like the slightly warmer environment on the right image, seems more wonderland to me, or at least more like the vale of tears going into the hatter domain. The jacket looks nice I feel like brown would suit him but I guess blue is brighter and more appropriate to him before everything went wrong in wonderland. I like the idea of using the China jacket on smaller enemies as mentioned. The exposed flesh meat under the China jacket is an awesome touch. I like the way the rabbits turned out, I really like the white rabbits attire. I do feel like I'm missing his bunny feet showing like they used to. Everything looks awesome so far, always happy to see more updates :).
2017-11-30 17:25:27 +0000 UTC
The china suit is great! I like the rabbits design if we get a little story throughout Alice Asylum on how he became like the rabbit in American Mcgee's Alice like the other charecters
HelplessHeroes
2017-11-30 15:08:16 +0000 UTC
Not a huge fan of the amount of red in the hatters domain,for me the blue tones work. Hatter in his suit looks very dapper, love it. Think the hare and the rabbit are also great but agree with the suggestion that they don't immediately screen American Mcgees Alice style. All in all though I think the ideas are great and it's all going along the right lines. Very exciting
2017-11-30 15:01:07 +0000 UTC
I want House of fire and fury print and BIG Chaos symbol.
Finally a White Rabbit with red eyes!
Make Nine Inch Nails great again
2017-11-30 12:03:42 +0000 UTC
I think a combination of the color schemes would look best for Hatter's domain, and I'm not a fan of anthropomorphed rabbit and china hatter. I think the china jacket idea is taking the chinese influence a bit too far and that most of the design should stay true to the british origins of the story. The Victorian england origins and style are what make Alice Alice, in my opinion.
2017-11-30 09:01:16 +0000 UTC
Yep, rabbit lacks his hat. Other than that, very interesting work pieces. The chaos version of the hatter domain seems more autumn than chaos, imo, and I personally like it more. It goes with that sad feeling that had the lab art. Was the hatter domain the area for the bargaining or we didn't found a suitable option yet?
2017-11-30 07:09:39 +0000 UTC
God, I love every single one of these pieces.
The family portrait is stunning - I have one gripe about it, which feels so stupid to even point out because it's just a gorgeous piece, but Lizzie looks too close in age to Alice - but I realize it's fanart, and I think that in general Omri really understands how to stay true to the art style that's been established while moving it forward with modern gaming sensibilities and aesthetics.
The pieces from Sonny and Joey are also gorgeous and make me infinitely excited to see the direction this game is heading in, even at such an early stage - there's so much that I love about this. For Hatter, I think the china pattern jacket is infinitely more interesting to look at, as the striped one just remind me a bit too much of what a dapper dan at Disneyland might wear.
For Hare and Rabbit - they're very excellent pieces. However, and I think might be for Rabbit in particular - if I saw him outside of this post I'd think OH that's the White Rabbit BUT, I don't think I'd say OH that's American McGee's White Rabbit. You know? He's missing a few touches that are iconic that should carry over or have counterparts or callbacks, I think. But, I know these are concepts and I am very much pleased, I'm sure everyone else will be too.
I think all of this also makes me want to see Alice as she appeared on her first trip to Wonderland around the age of six. Just for fun, I made a doodle kind of hybrid of our Alice and her namesake - wandering with the fawn from the second book: <a href="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPCZYFWUQAAgYoH.jpg" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPCZYFWUQAAgYoH.jpg</a>
2017-11-30 06:07:23 +0000 UTC
All this new art is great! I love the rabbits cute mustache and March hare is perfect exactly like I would have imagined hi to look before! but maybe we could adjust them to look more like OUR rabbits? And I'm so so excited Omri is being added to the team! He is one of my favorite artists and has done some of my favorite Alice art on his channel❤can't wait to see what else he has to offer 😄 also I do love the look of the Hatters castle with the red plants and clouds and thr idea of his flesh being exposed under a China glass surface is interesting and I would like to see a bot more of that!
2017-11-30 04:29:55 +0000 UTC
Loving everything so far! ❤️
2017-11-30 04:19:40 +0000 UTC