Auction
Added 2021-06-18 00:56:24 +0000 UTCI’m going to make a small unique illustration for an auction tomorrow, exclusive full res and full reveal for the buyer. I don't care if it’s sold at a high or low price, I just do it for fun.
Probably in my Instagram @/nixeuu or Twitter @/N_I_X_E_U
It was a mistake not to be more precise to explain this.
I don't pretend neglect the quality of my Patreon or leave it, you have to see this as a free choice extra work from my free time.
This isn't about greed, no one guarantees me that Patreon will be available forever, so it's good to try to diversify my content and create new ways of selling, as Gumroad, Redbubble, private commissions and collections here on tier $15. I also don't really expect this bid to reach anything big, it's even more of a test than anything else, so don't take it too seriously.
Many of you are assuming that I'm going to make a lot of money with this, when the bid starts at $1 and I'm not someone especially famous, I honestly believe that only a few will bid and that my drawing will sell for $50 haha. Anyway, even if I made a lot of money (I doubt it), that would not change anything, for me the Patreon model is the best.
Think that this drawing will only exist for this purpose, otherwise it wouldn't exist, so you don't really lose anything.
Hope you can understand my point and I appreciate you sharing your honesty with me.
Comments
Professionally, I deal with the topics of company orientation and customer focus. So I understand your train of thought very well. The problem I see is that you have expanded your business model in an unfavorable way. I summarize your business model as I see it. You offer digital art and use Patreon as a platform for sales, which saves you a lot of work, but also demands a percentage. You have balanced and secured your individual levels well, with people only getting the reward for the month they paid for. Gumroad: You use another platform to keep your older works alive and sell them. A very good addition, but not really used. I see clear potential for improvement here. With other artists it is possible to buy old monthly rewords. I have been a loyal supporter since 2020. But would also like to buy the missed months afterwards. I think the $ 15 extension with the addition of an old picture is awesome, but it's not the same as old $ 15 rewards. Offer to buy again! Redbubble: I have no idea if it really works like that - I can't imagine it. Here I would rather go for something valuable like your pictures printed out on canvas. In addition the possibility to buy the canvas with signature. That would have something. YouTube: I used to do something myself with PhotoShop and would therefore not classify your videos as teaching material. But it doesn't have to be. I think it's awesome to see how a picture of you is created. That was one of your BEST decisions. Build it up further. This way, potential "customers" will notice you and you have some new patrons. Little effort, very large use - expand. Commission: I see that as your real second mainstay. Patreon is your "daily business" and gives you hold. With YouTube and other activities you get new patrons, which in turn creates commissions. Therefore, put yourself in the shoes of your Patreons and try to expand that. The rest will come with time. I hope I could help you with this.
Christian
2021-06-18 19:10:28 +0000 UTCThis will sell for much more than 50$ and I think everyone is expecting it.
SupremeVoid
2021-06-18 13:37:51 +0000 UTCI know, it's just that I like collecting what little beauty this world has to offer (I'm just talking persuasively xD), this "would" be available to anyone who has the funds to bid and... I'm poor as a - what's lower than a rat? - cricket, hahaha. If I were rich, I'd be greedy and have you paint me a thousand and one private commissions (so I could choose the topic and feel special), then allow you to share them on Patreon, haha. Culture needs to be free!! But that's just my utopia** That said, you didn't need to explain, I know enough about the struggles of selling art and this is a much better way than NFTs, for sure 🌱
Anthaliel
2021-06-18 11:08:15 +0000 UTCLooking forward to your auction! You're a great artist and as your patreon it makes me happy to see your art is supporting you financially through auctions, Patreon or whatever means you have :D You might wanna have a look at the auction model for adoptables on Deviantart, it might suit your auction as well. In that way everyone will be able to see a watermarked version of your art, the winner of the auction will then receive the file without watermark. Good luck with your auction, and I fully support your decision :)
2021-06-18 10:03:19 +0000 UTCMakes sense to me. Keep experimenting and finding ways to utilize your skills and reach audiences. Never stop trying things!
Brad Conte
2021-06-18 10:02:16 +0000 UTCI have several ideas and that is one of them, but I need more free time.
NIXEU
2021-06-18 09:30:34 +0000 UTCI personally completely support it. I genuinely hope you make tons of money and it works out for you. The more you can support yourself, the more “”freely” you can focus on your art, the better everyone will be. Good luck!
Emanuele
2021-06-18 09:24:41 +0000 UTCHonestly it’s really great that you try other alternatives to Patreon. Your art is amazing and you definitely deserve to make profit from it ( even if it’s not mainly about that ).
Vanoss
2021-06-18 09:23:10 +0000 UTCYes, dont worry Nixeu i understand it very well, i was not trying to be negative about the auction, quite the opposite! :) I was more trying to remind others why they should not worry about it. Its very good to hear your commitment to Patreon though. Its reasuring even if i didnt worry too much :D I hope you have a great day!
Stoia
2021-06-18 08:51:30 +0000 UTCI can assure you that I will never leave Patreon, because it's the model that I like the most and where I feel the support of my followers (unless a new platform appears with better options for everyone) or that the quality of my content will lower because I make an auction. I can perfectly understand what you can feel, but I hope you can understand my point, this is like a personal work to a buyer using my free time, in fact it is worse, because nobody assures me that my drawing will be sold for a fair price. Many of you are assuming that I am going to make a lot of money with this, when the bid starts at $1 and I am not someone especially famous, I honestly believe that only a few will bid and that my drawing will sell for $50 haha Anyway, I want you to know that I'm glad that you are honest with me, so I can take your opinion in mind for the future.
NIXEU
2021-06-18 08:48:15 +0000 UTCI Get the critiques but i also gotta admit, the thought that every piece of art has to be available, just because i pay 15$ a month (or less) is kind of naive. The quality of art we get for this tiny price is already astounding, and i feel like we really have no ground to demand "more". Am i sad that i wont get to see the auctioning piece? Yeah, sure. Does it impact my live in any way shape or form? No. Not in the slightest. But it gives you the ability to try something new _and_ potentially make bank with it. Of course others might see the risk that you'll start to Quit patreon and only do auctions after this because its more lucrative, and i cant blame them for that. But even then, its your decision and we dont support you for "the future content" we might get, we support you this month for what we get this month. So we have no ground to demand anything further then that. The entitlement to expect you to deliver forevermore for the same small pricetag is not ok IMO. :) Happy Auctioning! :D
Stoia
2021-06-18 08:36:28 +0000 UTCI will upload the partially censored drawing on Instagram or Twitter and you will be able to bid on it in the comments, in a chained bid.
NIXEU
2021-06-18 07:30:58 +0000 UTCJust as I decided that learning from me would be partially free through my YouTube channel, creating new opportunities than Patreon is another personal decision. This isn't about greed, no one guarantees me that Patreon will be available forever, so it's good to try to diversify my content and create new ways of selling, as Gumroad, Redbubble, private commissions and collections here on tier $15. This doesn't mean that I will do it often, because Patreon takes up 90% of my time, and that's the point, it's something that I do as an extra work, as I have explained to Anthaliel before. I also don't really expect this bid to reach anything big, it's even more of a test than anything else, so don't take it too seriously. Anyway, I wanted to explain it because I want to show you that there really is nothing wrong with it.
NIXEU
2021-06-18 07:16:26 +0000 UTCI understand your point but it's a drawing that will only exist for this purpose, otherwise it wouldn't exist, so you don't really lose anything. It’s like when I make private commissions that no one else can see or my tier $15 with a collection that only my supporters of that one can see. So please don't be sad for this :)
NIXEU
2021-06-18 06:56:23 +0000 UTCYou build a good foundation on Patreon. Your YouTube channel in particular brings you awareness and new supporters. On the subject of auctioning: If it were a charitable cause and you auctioned 1-2 pictures a year, nobody would complain. rather, people would certainly bid here. The way it looks here, it will certainly not go down well with your supporters. I think you will lose people with it.
Christian
2021-06-18 04:30:05 +0000 UTCI have 2€ :/
Anthaliel
2021-06-18 02:10:18 +0000 UTCThis makes me sad, I understand it provides artists with extra money, but the rest of us don't get to enjoy one beautiful art piece of our favourite artists 😢 As a patron, I hope it works good for you xD As an art lover, specially of your artwork, however...
Anthaliel
2021-06-18 02:07:14 +0000 UTCHm ok. This would be more interesting with a physical drawing
SupremeVoid
2021-06-18 01:42:22 +0000 UTCDrawing will be censored but I will show a section so the buyer knows what they are going to get.
NIXEU
2021-06-18 01:40:56 +0000 UTCHow does it work?
Mrbrisco
2021-06-18 01:28:14 +0000 UTCWill the buyer know what he buys before? Even only roughly?
SupremeVoid
2021-06-18 00:59:18 +0000 UTCI got $2 rn
Chnxi
2021-06-18 00:57:34 +0000 UTC