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Encounter 3 - Intro Montage

I just posted the first preview for Encounter 3, which mainly shows the first bit of the intro. Not a whole lot to see here since Chloe doesn't make an appearance in this yet, which is also why I won't make a public post about it until the second preview. For now it's a short 3 minute preview that mainly shows how far we are with the rendering right now.

I'm planning on updating this in a 2 month rhythm, usually depending on how much material I managed to render, so expect this to be a recurring thing from here! Next playblast will also be posted in roughly 10 days as well! (:

Encounter 3 - Intro Montage Encounter 3 - Intro Montage

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How about you chill out? Animation, especially high quality animation, takes a long time

Jim

No problem about it! But yeah, that's a bit enlightening since I wasn't aware that notifications for locked posts were sent out to free members as well, especially since I remember there being comments by a few free members on ancient posts here asking me if I was still active. Apparently I hadn't posted for many years from their point, but maybe they were just never in that free member tier that seemingly still gets notifications. Now I'm somewhat uncertain again if it's still a good idea to make a public post about this particular preview, but I'll certainly do one when the next preview is ready. According to Patreon, refunds take roughly 5 - 7 business days, so it might take a moment to arrive. Many thanks for the feedback as this has demystified a few things for me here!

CakeInferno

Well, this is something I didn't expect and I am truly thankful to you for it, I have no grievance whatsoever anymore and it's a pretty cool gesture. To my understanding, new post notifications get sent to all members who have been members, removed their subscription at any point and chose to *remain connected as a free member* after cancellation, which is the option I always choose so I get updates on new postings.

John

Since you just mentioned you hadn't an active subscription when this post dropped, did you receive notifications about all these three posts while not having a running subscription? My understanding was that post notifications are only send out to members within the tier of the corresponding post, rather than anyone who was ever subscribed at some point. Should this be the case then I'll agree that having a public post from the get go would've probably been a good idea. I'll make sure to put one up later today. For the time being, I've refunded your current tier, which should be coming back to you in a few days.

CakeInferno

I remember the last animation. Whether there is malice or not I am highly inclined to believe there is none. People work with what they know, so the truth is always a blind canvas of what the information is. I don't really know what information you work with, therefore I am just sticking to commenting on the situation from my point of view. As I am not the type to subscribe for a year or an undefined period of time, I subscribe when I want to support - in my mind, I want to support when there's something new, so my subscription choices levy on the knowledge of there being new content to see. Some artists don't post art for months and I don't see the point to have blind faith that if I stay subscribed that will change, so I apply that to everyone. As far as the last animation and this being done for a 2nd time. I remember subscribing for the 5$ tier when a similar situation happened with the last animation. Last time, I got upsold to the 10$ tier over a sunken cost fallacy as I couldn't see the preview there, but at the time I did not fault anybody. I clearly remember the situation and how I was like *Alright, it is what it is, another 5$ is fine*. This time, however, there are 3 almost exactly the same posts with absolutely no *clear* indication that the 5$ tier would get basically nothing. Now, what happened for me as a new subscriber is that I've paid for nothing new or am forced into being upsold. This time I find it hard to find fault with myself as a similar situation happened in the past so it could be a pattern where people such as myself get baited into paying for something which otherwise I would not pay for - 10$ is not a tier I can afford. 5$ for no new content isn't either. I think of myself as having been cheated based on this. I can understand people are messaging you for a preview, but that has nothing to do with the way you handled the situation, ambiguous post titles and no clear indications at all. Lastly, I appreciate that measures will be taken so that this doesn't happen to other people, though to me it remains irksome for it has already been done.

John

It's been done exactly like this on the last animation where I released a 2 minute in-progress preview. The reception of it was highly positive, which is why I decided to keep showing full previews of in-progress animations, as it makes sense especially with long form animations due to the long production times. The reasons for making three posts are mainly the 4K, 1080p, and playblast tiers, two of which get the full preview, where the playblast one gets a montage. I've made free posts in the past about animation releases and previews and it was used against me in the same way, which is why I've tried to keep things more closed off this time. Hence why there was no announcement on Twitter or other platforms in regards to this. I will make a public post on the next preview and outline what the preview will be about. I apologize there was none for this post, as I deemed this preview to be too rough to be shown. Perhaps this post should've not been made at all, but understand that I get frequent messages here asking when the first preview was out, occasionally this pushes me to post something half-baked. I generally try to make things transparent with clear titles and descriptions, so people don't get any false expectations. Please do not assume malice for what negligence can explain.

CakeInferno

Hey man, I am just calling it how I see it. I don't see you denying it, either. Not saying it's a bad thing, but I am not used to seeing this from you in particular. Also, I just subbed because I saw that you released 3 separate Encounter - 3 Intro posts for each tier, how else would this not be sub baiting? As for handling it differently, I can think of various ways that wouldn't bait subs. Here's one - a free post highlighting your reasoning for not releasing a full preview and also releasing the 2 other posts that are already up. Which would save me the sub, as I wouldn't get baited. This is my personal opinion and you can disagree with it, however it did leave a bad taste and I will be frank. Regardless, thank you for the art, regardless.

John

I literally said there isn't a lot to see here yet and that I haven't made a public post for that reason. On top of that I posted a preview montage here for lower tiers so they know what to expect from this and don't get false expectations. How should I have handled this differently?

CakeInferno

Baiting subs, hm

John

I wonder when this will get released I think it would be March or April we usually get a new animation every 6-12 months

rmplays

when we expect the full movie 1 year from now

darka24

Seems space hero with have quite the journey

VoreLover3

god i cant wait to watch it

sam06m20


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