Crowdsourcing: international degree duration
Added 2018-11-14 16:06:19 +0000 UTCYour humble crab didn't attempt higher education, so there are some details I've had to research about university in order to put the lifepath together (like where students live, what they do, what university even is, etc). Dissonant Soundtrack says that it's cute.
One thing I can't really get a straight answer to is: how many years does a university degree typically last in the following countries? The answer will affect how many relationships the game generates while the agent is at university.
- USA
- United Kingdom
- Canada
- Australia
- New Zealand
- Israel
Female Agent fans seem like an educated and cosmopolitan bunch, though, so I bet you guys can tell me! Answers in the comments, please.
Comments
4 years usual in the USA for a standard undergrad, with an additional 2 or 3 for a masters or doctorate depending on the follow on school
Spartan990
2018-11-15 23:44:04 +0000 UTCIn Canada, after Grade 12, it's usually 4 years of university for a bachelor's and 2 for a master's degree. In the province of Québec (where McGill University is located) it's a little bit different. After Grade 11 (there is no Grade 12), you usually go to a college (called CÉGEP) for 2 years, then can join University. A bachelor's is then only 3 years long, and a master's degree is the usual 2 years. It's an extra year of higher education, but in 2 different schools. Could improve the backstory quite nicely but it would require maybe a bit more coding :x
Toad
2018-11-15 20:21:49 +0000 UTC"The answer will affect how many relationships the game generates while the agent is at university" A: About 10-15 years in those areas. Unfortunately this also means you'll have to rename the game to "MILF Agent."
vladeemer
2018-11-15 14:50:41 +0000 UTCin the USA it typically takes a total of 4 years if you are going at a normal pace, but if you go to community college beforehand or if you pile on a few extra classes into your terms or take summer classes you can finish in 3 years. A masters degree then will take an additional 2 years.
Shaddowz
2018-11-15 06:31:51 +0000 UTCCanadian system is pretty flexible, typically a bachelor's degree takes 4 years, and a master degree an additional 2 years, but people can graduate a year early if you take enough summer courses. That said, you can also have a more relax schedule and finish your degree in 5 years instead of 4.
Alako
2018-11-15 01:53:54 +0000 UTCCanada: it's special, it depends on the province, but in Quebec, you have 5 years of high school, then 2 or 3 years in college, then at the university the baccalaureate is 3 years. So you finish University at 22-23 years old in general.
Marcmad
2018-11-15 00:05:17 +0000 UTCUSA, typically 4 years for a Bachelor's. Some graduate early, some graduate later, but typically 4 years.
DM
2018-11-14 21:30:41 +0000 UTCIn Australia a bachelor’s degree is 3 or 4 years depending on the topic and honours.
Dohvi
2018-11-14 20:51:43 +0000 UTCUK wise 3 years for a BA or BSc unless it's a technical subject which can include a year working in industry. Year 4 or 5 would be a Masters or MA/MSc. Exceptions include Medicine and oddly Architecture. Just as a matter of interest were you considering adding schools like Sandhurst or West Point as it's not uncommon for covert agencies to recruit directly from the Military Schools. Also is there any factoring in of Agents with extremely high IQ's gaining early entrance to University? In theory an agent with an IQ in excess of 145 could gain a PhD in the time a less able student completes their Masters.
Iain
2018-11-14 20:16:21 +0000 UTCThree to four years for a Bachelor's in New Zealand, like most other places. Three if you focus solely on the subject of the degree itself, four if you do some side papers, that's usually enough to get you a major and a minor or even a double-degree if you work hard
HannahIsHere
2018-11-14 20:16:13 +0000 UTCGenerally I've seen universities have a maximum credit amount per semester and a student applies for an exception if they want to go over
Kurt Wagner
2018-11-14 20:13:48 +0000 UTCFor Israel it is generally three or four years for a bachelor's degree.
Aelariah
2018-11-14 19:48:07 +0000 UTCA bachelor's degree in any of the courses listed in the last version would be three years in the UK, I think. Only things like medicine take longer than that. And a bachelor's degree is what most people are talking about when they mention a degree. If they mean a master's degree, they'll call it a master's.
ultimate_elephant
2018-11-14 19:30:12 +0000 UTC<a href="https://warwick.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/uow_ug_prospectus_2018.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://warwick.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/uow_ug_prospectus_2018.pdf</a> <br><br><a href="https://www.stir.ac.uk/study/download-a-prospectus/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.stir.ac.uk/study/download-a-prospectus/</a> <br><br><a href="https://www.exeter.ac.uk/undergraduate/prospectus/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.exeter.ac.uk/undergraduate/prospectus/</a> <br><br> Goddam Warwick Uni's ugly.
Jumpy James Johnson Junior
2018-11-14 18:59:54 +0000 UTCin the US it's usually four years; exceptions are people who are willing to spend extra money to take it slow and people who decide to combine their master's degree into their undergrad degree, which is generally one extra year
hypn0s
2018-11-14 18:42:31 +0000 UTCIn the USA it's typically 2 years for an associate's degree 4 years for a bachelor's degree 6 years for a master's degree 8 years for a doctoral degree
deamonmaster
2018-11-14 18:37:41 +0000 UTCChecking the qualifications to get into the CIA, they mention a bachelors degree as a requirement. In the USA, you typically need 120 credit hours to get a bachelor's degree, which usually happens over 4 years or eight semesters, meaning you do about 15 credit hours per semester. 12 credit hours is the minimum to be a full-time student, 6 to be a part-time student. There isn't a maximum credit hour per semester limit, but very rarely do people do more than 18-20. So a typical focused student would take 4 years, a less focused student would take 5 years, a part time student would take as many as 8 years (this includes those who enter a cooperative education program, which is going to work for a company one semester and then studying the next one on the company's dime), and a very focused student without much of a life outside of class could bring that down to 3 years.
Pandora
2018-11-14 18:36:39 +0000 UTCUK generally 3, 4, or 6 years.
gdpfan12345
2018-11-14 18:05:28 +0000 UTCIn North America 4 year diploma program is near universal for universities. I know of no instance of someone going to university for fewer then 4 years. Community collage or vocational school can range from 2-4 years.
Za.Law
2018-11-14 17:49:06 +0000 UTCI can only speak for continental europe, but in general a bachelor degree lasts 6 semesters here, which is 3 years. Many students need longer though for various reasons. And a masters degree lasts either 2 or in some cases 4 semesters. So an additional 1-2 years. I assume it is similar in other countries :)
Lena
2018-11-14 17:07:13 +0000 UTCTJK is correct for MoC (Most of Canada). Of course, the (French-speaking) province of Quebec is an exception -- there, high school lasts 5 years instead of 6, and an (undergraduate) university degree lasts 3 years instead of 4, but, contrary to other provinces, there is an intermediate level, between high school and university, called Cegep, which lasts 2 years. So that, if you count from start of high school, English-speaking Canada will have 6 + 4 years till university graduation, while Quebec will have 5 + 2 + 3 years, which brings you to start of Master's degree at the same age. Of course, if a person works many hours during their studies, they might take fewer courses per semester to ease the load, which will prolong their studies.
SuperMaxo
2018-11-14 16:55:47 +0000 UTCYou could try looking at universities in those countries and get an idea from that. This link is a qualification guide from the University of Kent (UK): <a href="https://www.kent.ac.uk/courses/part-time/level/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.kent.ac.uk/courses/part-time/level/</a>
Abaddon
2018-11-14 16:36:27 +0000 UTCUK for example, I did a BA and that was a 3 year course (first year was level 4, second year was level 5 and then third year was level 6). However, a friend of mine did a Nursing degree that was for 4 years.
Abaddon
2018-11-14 16:32:52 +0000 UTCIn Canada, an undergrad almost always takes 4 years. There are exceptions - some specialty engineering programs take 5 years, and sometimes people just fail some courses and have to take an extra semester or year - but not many. College is a little less consistent but usually sticks with 2-3 years, and post-grad gets weird (it’s conventionally 2 years for a Master’s and 4 for a PhD, but some programs let you combine them into a 5 year prgm, or even skip the Master’s entirely). Hope that helps!
TJK
2018-11-14 16:28:08 +0000 UTCFor UK degrees it varies depending upon the course and level of the degree, as some courses are one year for a level 4 qualification or 3-4 for a level 5 qualification. I personally did an archaeology degree that lasted three years . If you then decided to add the possibility of gap years in you can stretch the time from to 4-5 years. Within the qualification in england we have a modular system: Core units that take the majority of the credits, how we determine how much work needs to be done each semester; and Optional units which can be taken across departments. So if its the UK it is either going to be as simple or as complicatedas you wish.
Jonathan Wesson
2018-11-14 16:17:12 +0000 UTCGetting an undergraduate degree in the US usually takes 3-5 years. This depends on the major, your primary field of study, and the competence of the student. Some may choose to double major, or pick up minors to learn about different fields. Its not uncommon for a science major to double major or minor in mathematics for instance.
Paul Pedersen
2018-11-14 16:16:08 +0000 UTCThe US is generally 4 years for a bachelors degree, but the average student can reasonably take 5 in my experience.
House Adia Studios
2018-11-14 16:15:43 +0000 UTCUSA 4 years is the norm. It's a matter of how many classes you can manage per term so it can be more or less, but you should be fine with 4 years
Parllyarp
2018-11-14 16:14:10 +0000 UTCuk degrees last around 3-4 years average with 3 years being the most common
Macaroon1701
2018-11-14 16:08:46 +0000 UTC
