Let me clear something up.
Added 2018-04-12 05:10:06 +0000 UTChey guys. i recently got a comment on my 3x03 reaction that i want to talk about. the fact that i even have to say this makes me physically sick. i got a comment essentially saying i don't understand the over generalization of gay people being harmful and that calling people "gays" is rude and "skam actually does give little nods to the way straight girls tend to react to gay men and they should be paid attention to because all the reactions that are shown are harmful".
i've never read a comment that made me genuinely sick to my stomach. any time i have said the word "gays" or "that was the gayest thing i have ever seen", has NEVER been said EVER in a derogatory fashion, but only to describe a situation/person. i have never once generalized gay men or gay people for that matter, because TRUST ME, i do get it. you have no idea how much i get it. if you knew me, you'd know that. keep in mind that in this video, i have seen THREE EPISODES of season 3. not the entire series like all of you. so getting angry at me for not taking a lighthearted scene serious at that point, is really damn unfair. all that i've seen is what has been shown to me so far this season. to have someone claim that i'm only seeing gay men as a "straight girl's best friend" is just about the most offensive thing you can say to me because let me reiterate, you do not know me. you don't know my sexuality and it isn't any of your business what it is or what i personally have been through. and i don't feel i owe that explanation to anyone. i have done nothing but respect this series and taken every single situation to heart. completely. and you'll see in an upcoming reaction when i say just how important it is that they go this deep into Isak's coming out storyline.
idk, i felt like i had to get this off my chest. it really upset me that someone would ever think that about me, let alone say it.
for everyone else that has left sweet comments, thank you. i love you. i read them all and i see them all.
Comments
Part of being a genuine/unedited content creator means it’s not always possible to express yourself in the most fully thought out & accurate way that everyone will understand in every single moment. Especially if its a reaction video. Hopefully most people realize this. There will probably always be people who misread you or your reactions. But I feel if people are genuinely paying attention they can see the real you <3
2018-04-14 18:46:15 +0000 UTCYes, I agree. Please keep going, don't change a thing. You have 126 patrons because of your sweet personality and your wise reflections. Sometimes you don't react or think the way I do, but that's the point, isn't it. Keep it up! 😘
Charlotte
2018-04-14 14:50:55 +0000 UTCIt was absolutely women who who played the biggest part in making homophobia "uncool." Women are usually at the forefront of any significant social change. They see someone being treated unfairly, their maternal instinct to protect kicks in, and they start influencing and shifting attitudes. As I said before, straight men will alter their behaviors/attitudes in order to make themselves more appeling to women. Also, women are the primary caretakers of kids, so it is usually their views that influence children; a mother who is open-minded and liberal will usually instill those values into their kids, either consciously or not. Lastly, I DID say that fetishization may not be right. But at the same time, it's not the sort of thing I'm going to stress over. I have bigger issues to worry about than someone possibly being turned on by me.
Thomas Pearce
2018-04-13 17:28:27 +0000 UTClmao i'm sorry but what. "it was straight women that made homophobia unecceptable" lmfao also just because everyone gets fetishized doesn't mean it's right
Kyle
2018-04-13 16:45:48 +0000 UTCWe love you, girl! Keep doing what you do and most importantly keep being yourself. You gained all these followers and Patreons by being you---so keep being you. :)
Thomas Pearce
2018-04-13 02:10:58 +0000 UTCI'm a gay man and I must say that straight women have been the most valuable allies that we in the gay community have had. So it annoys me to hear hyper-sensitive gays complain about the reaction that straight girls have to Evak or to gay males in general. I'm a lot older than most Skam fans, so I've seen a lot of changes over the years in regards to gay people. I saw firsthand that it was basically straight women that made homophobia unacceptable. Once straight women decided that anti-gay bigotry was no longer cool, straight men followed--- because ultimately straight men will adopt whatever attitudes they need to in order to be found acceptable by women. LOL! And I wish the people who complain about the "fetishization" of gay men would shut the hell up. Firstly, EVERYONE gets fetishized. Whether its due to their body type, race, whatever---EVERYONE gets fetishized by someone. Spend some time on porn sites and you'll see what I mean. Maybe fetishization isn't "right", but it is reality. Secondly, over the decades we've gone from people expressing disgust at the sight of two men kissing to now people expressing delight at it. And you want to complain about that!? Give me a freaking break. I grew up a gay teen in the 1980's in rural Alabama, then spent six years in the Marine Corps. I've seen real, actual homophobia. And trust me, it's not someone saying "the gays" or someone swooning over two hot boys kissing. If these are the things that we gays now have to complain about, then we truly have come a long damn way!
Thomas Pearce
2018-04-13 02:03:01 +0000 UTCthanks for the comments guys! i sent lolgodwhy a message going into further detail. id hate to make anyone uncomfortable. but thank you for your understand and support. please know id never ever ever think or say anything bad about the community. as it is very close to my heart. but i don’t feel it’s necessary nor am i ready to go into that as of now.
2018-04-13 01:45:42 +0000 UTCI don’t think this comment hits the mark at all! Ky seems to me to be very thoughtful, genuine and also understanding of small things like that. She seems like a fantastic person in my opinion. As someone in the LGBT-community myself, I do agree that overgeneralization can be harmful both with negative and positive comments, but there’s nothing wrong with having a sense of humor and not be overly touchy about it. I think her reactions are a sign of a healthy balance in this regard! Also, remember that she is doing reactions “live”. She is practically putting herself on display for us. I think that is brave of her, and not something we should take lightly. I would not have handled exposing myself in that manner, and I feel she is doing a great job!
2018-04-13 01:23:32 +0000 UTCHi, feel free to dismiss this comment if I totally got it wrong. I don't think you were being homophobic or negative; as someone who's a part of the queer community, listening to you say those things doesn't make me think 'oh wow what an asshole' but it has made me feel uncomfortable every time you've done it. I know you're not doing it maliciously so I wouldn't really point it out cause I don't care that much but since you've made an entire post about it I will say that it's a bit ignorant. Unless you're a part of this community (if you are, then my criticism is meaningless - remember that being an ally isn’t the same as being in the community) it isn't cool to just say 'the gays' or 'this is the gayest thing I've ever seen', you say that you don't mean it in a derogatory way, that's not the problem, it’s that you are generalising (I get that you don't understand how harmful it can be, judging by your reaction to the Even/Emma scene where Even says that it doesn't matter whether something's positive or negative, it's still generalising, and you kinda shared Emma's perspective - again, Emma isn't evil in that scene, but clearly ignorant) My point is: just because a generalisation is meant in a nice way or simply not in a negative way, doesn't make it right to do. You saying those things only made me uncomfortable but might hold a different connotation to somebody else in the community, so whether you mean it in a good way or not, it's just best not to do it. I hope this clears things up, and you don't take it in as an attack or whatever, cause I do like your reactions (clearly, since I’m a patron lol) it’s only meant to give you perspective. Have a nice day. :)
lolgodwhy
2018-04-12 17:59:38 +0000 UTCYou really don't need to explain yourself. Comments are worthless, if you saw this comment getting repeated by different people, then maybe talk about it. But if you saw one insignificant comment of someone thas has completely misunderstood you, then they are not worth it.
Joe Wiik
2018-04-12 15:08:47 +0000 UTCNope no bad apples will destroy the fight to make all people equal. ALL people, no matter race gender sexuality wealth
Jane Kronvald Hansen
2018-04-12 10:55:45 +0000 UTCI am so sorry! One of the few things I hate about Skam exploding internationally during s3 is how in the aftermath it is often brushed aside how big it was here, how much it meant to Norway and lhbt. People really changed. I experienced elders talking about it, saying things compared to what they know, them changing thoughts and attitueds. I witnessed peers changing, being kinder and more considerate. We've heard the actors say strangers, homophobes told them they're not homophobes anymore to their face. The way s3 was discussed and experienced reached another level for lhbt people. People tend to forget or don't know because they weren't here when certain key scenes happened, that took people by storm, of the "normality" and both people in the community and outside were shocked by how casual, simple and real many scenes in the second half were. Ofcourse there are people who don't know how to act in every fandom, but frankly it saddens and angers me how easy it is for some to downplay how important this season was in our country, it's being remembered as the season that broke out in the rest of the world, the "straight girls watched it" arguments... EVERYONE WATCHED IT! People who weren't here have no idea how the atmosphere was like after " * ***** **** " We still have a long way to go for equality, but this season did so much and gave us so much love, but then also to the rest of the world. A few bad apples are not going to get to destroy or cloud someone's enjoyment of this.
Rogne
2018-04-12 07:39:55 +0000 UTCI for once never saw your experience like this. And I am as you saddened by these comments. But being in the Skam-fandom you soon figure out that eventhough people watched the show, not all took the ideas to heart. Sadly this fandom seems to be threated by hatred, smallness and not the kindness most of all would want and are fighting for ... But I ❤️ your reactions, we got your back. Keep up the good work girl 👍
Jane Kronvald Hansen
2018-04-12 05:58:43 +0000 UTC