PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Women need to face their own ageing
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@RhodiumMaiden - Seeing as you've seemingly spent MOST of your adult life in the US, I would've expected that one to have been the easiest and most natural to obtain.
Joseph Omega
2024-11-27 02:43:31 +0000 UTC@JO Sadly, I do not have German citizenship and I cannot get it without giving up my Canadian and Australian citizenships. I also have permanent residence in the US, that I’ve had since shortly after I was born, via my parents. I considered purchasing Austrian citizenship but since I don’t plan to stay here, it’s not worth it.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-27 02:37:35 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - Oh, I thought you were German. MULTIPLE citizenships?
Joseph Omega
2024-11-27 02:26:58 +0000 UTC@JO I am Canadian, but the US is the only place to be now, imo. I do think that suicide & euthanasia should be legalised though, with conditions.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-27 02:24:30 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - 👍
Joseph Omega
2024-11-27 02:23:57 +0000 UTC@JO Oh yes, I meant to say single dad, thank you!
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-27 02:22:03 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - You MAY consider moving to Canada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuM1AAfb_jw
Joseph Omega
2024-11-27 02:04:40 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - "I really would prefer not to date a single man because I want to go through the process of our first time parenthood with him." I don't think I understand this -- was there a typo, where you meant "I really WOULD prefer to date a single man"? 🤔 Or maybe you mean "Single DAD"?
Joseph Omega
2024-11-27 01:59:48 +0000 UTC@Ashwin Ofc, I don’t think he should have to pay for kids that aren’t his.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-27 01:41:01 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden Realistically, your chances of finding a good and high-quality man would be higher in the latter situation where you both don't really want any more kids. In the case of the former, would you be OK with the man not wanting to provide significantly for your children? Maybe a few dinners, lunches, birthday parties and festival expenses but not other stuff.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-11-05 04:03:58 +0000 UTCThe moment I cease to be of use to people or a burden, I will kill myself. Or if necessary, have someone help me. I wish it were legal to be euthanised according to my wishes as per a contract.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-04 20:38:08 +0000 UTC@AS I don’t have children yet, but I really would prefer not to date a single dad because I want to go through the process of our first time parenthood with him as it’s such a bonding experience. I also feel very possessive of my man’s DNA. I can imagine I would feel the same way if I’d had children already when I was widowed. I think I would be more open to single dad if I already had all the children I wanted.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-04 20:32:41 +0000 UTCLadies...... Take your SCRAMBLED EGGS someplace else. NOT INTERESTED. The ONLY thing I can thank my second wife for is her insistance on me having a vasectomy. And that procedure has been TESTED... Some chick tried to 'baby trap' me, and all it cost me was an embarassing few minutes in the doctors toilet to provide a 'sample'. It came back as 'Aspermic', ie no sperm. Sorry darlin look someplace else for the baby daddy, cause it aint ME.
John McGuinness
2024-08-25 12:11:42 +0000 UTCThe hair is better in the latest video. Everyone can have a bad hair day.
Eric Linden
2024-08-20 20:37:49 +0000 UTC@E C - Well, you know SO much more about Alexander, but your heart still beats for "mystery men", does it not? 😉
Joseph Omega
2024-08-20 20:11:18 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - A "trusted friend" indeed ... but only up to a point: https://chatgpt.com/share/5c62bc7d-b5f9-4f04-ae82-ea15e0986d29
Joseph Omega
2024-08-20 18:34:59 +0000 UTC@MB - I respect your personal choice. 🙏 Yet to me however, it is the very understanding of these "abnormal psychologies" (or "minority reports" as I often call them) that stake the upper (or lower) boundaries of my comprehension: "Were it not for the clouds, we would not enjoy the sun" -- Isaac Asimov.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-20 18:30:36 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Indeed (concerning "evolutionary psychology"), and the reasons seem to stretch from the PERSONAL thru to the SOCIETAL in scope, and from the DESCRIPTIVE thru to the PRESCIRIPTIVE in utility (as we discussed elsewhere).
Joseph Omega
2024-08-20 18:29:02 +0000 UTC@E C - I believe kemosabe is trusted friend. It is a term of loyalty, maybe even submission.
Eric Linden
2024-08-20 17:43:33 +0000 UTC@Eric I'm unsure who you're addressing. Anyway, @JΩ et al. I am aware of the purpose and merit of this line of enquiry. My point is that I have no desire in being distracted from my own quest to better understand evolutionary psychology... and narcissistic feminazis trolling men's forums present just such a tedious distraction; so they are best stepped around on the path and then ignored as they have so little of merit to offer.
MB
2024-08-20 16:53:55 +0000 UTCIf you’re not into evolutionary psychology, this Patreon is not for you. We are all here for different reasons, but that is the glue that binds us together.
Eric Linden
2024-08-20 12:52:59 +0000 UTC@MB - 😂 Fair enough. But the plague IS spreading ...
Joseph Omega
2024-08-19 23:02:04 +0000 UTC@JΩ No, not really. Curiosity killed the cat. Life is just too short to allow oneself to waste one's own time on folly. All a man needs to know about 'abnormal female psychology' is that he must avoid it like the plague.
MB
2024-08-19 22:47:48 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Ah. I understand -- I've often found myself inadvertently caught in a maelstrom of responses that appear interminably unproductive ... not citing any specific (though now deleted) examples here or elsewhere ... 😉
Joseph Omega
2024-08-19 21:06:50 +0000 UTC@E C - Well, nobody with active ovaries at any rate ... 😅
Joseph Omega
2024-08-19 20:59:27 +0000 UTCThat explains it. 😥 Were you a "passport bro", or was she visiting? BTW, I've been to Colombia ... 'nuff said! 😛
Joseph Omega
2024-08-19 20:48:49 +0000 UTCWell, she is from Colombia. I don't think there are any non-retarded 21 year olds left in western society.
Mara
2024-08-19 18:06:58 +0000 UTCAnd you're dating one of the VERY FEW non-retarded 21-year olds still left uncluttering modern "Western" society? Good for you! Enjoy it while she lasts! 😄
Joseph Omega
2024-08-19 18:00:53 +0000 UTCFor sure this won't work with retarded 21yr olds, I'll give you that :).
Mara
2024-08-19 16:39:55 +0000 UTCI see VERY little to prevent a 21 year old from "outgrowing" a 35 year old, as this concept is based on PERCEPTIONS, not the reality of age or ACTUAL maturity. The "social contagion" that spreads the idea that all women are 10's is QUITE capable of convincing ANY woman of ANY idea that defies common sense.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-19 16:38:13 +0000 UTC@MB - Very tempting, but aren't you curious to fathom abnormal female psychology? After all, isn't that largely what this Patreon is all about?
Joseph Omega
2024-08-19 15:49:39 +0000 UTC@JΩ. Do yourself a favour... get EC to block you... or you block EC, them you won't be exposed to EC's brand of antagonistic, disruptive narcissism and misandry. It's a breath of fresh air.
MB
2024-08-19 10:18:59 +0000 UTCThe outgrowing makes no sense. I am dating a 21yr old right now. There is literally no way she could outgrow me. And I also don't agree with that you are "done" growing at 35. What you are done with is finding your identity. You should have done that by now. Everything else, you can re-invent yourself every decade. And dating a 21yr old is a pretty good catalyst to help that along. BECAUSE they are so different. You have so much to explore. You maybe talk about guys you are actually done growing. Who just wanna get a child and wait for death. If that's you (like I assume most of the population) then yeah, dating a 21yr old is not for you, which leaves more for me. What CAN be a problem is the girl finding her new identity that conflicts with your expectations of her. To address that, you gotta help her find her identity FAST, so that you are not wasting time with the wrong girl. This costs time and money, not for everyone. I think the guys you are talking about are those that date a 21yr for the wrong reasons, like more as a show off or trophy. Then yeah, it's not gonna work.
Mara
2024-08-19 01:07:22 +0000 UTC@Joseph. No. I don’t think blocking means you turned against them. Especially if it is totally reversible. If you can’t stop yourself from responding, each response is making things worse, and you can’t even think straight, it may be best to get away from that person for a while. Deleting is another story. You’re erasing history. We have the right to do it here as Patreon allows it. But having a right doesn’t always make it right. I think there should be a note at each spot saying “_____ deleted a post here”
Eric Linden
2024-08-18 11:49:11 +0000 UTC@E C - https://wiki.c2.com/?WhoDoYouMeanWeKemoSabe
Joseph Omega
2024-08-18 07:18:36 +0000 UTC@E C - Well, @Eric Linden could not even FIND our conversations before you posted on the parent thread, so ... 🤷♂️ PS. Besides, what you mean "us" Kemosabe? 😄
Joseph Omega
2024-08-18 05:50:32 +0000 UTC@E C - Strange how you're DOUBLE POSTING things here in the parent thread. I HOPE you're not seeking SIMPathy. 🤔
Joseph Omega
2024-08-18 05:33:39 +0000 UTC@E C - Well, OK. Just this once, then I'll leave you: Right now you really have nothing more to talk about, but you just keep merrily chatting away with spontaneous abandon. Probably until you say something you regret, then have to delete. Seemingly a feminine (or female) trait. It's here when men just learn to shut up and pretend we're still listening and awake. Well, you DID ask -- you're here to learn remember? See you in a more productive thread. Maybe about Feminism?
Joseph Omega
2024-08-18 04:42:06 +0000 UTC@E C - Not really. I think this thread has run its course. I usually try to chat with a purpose.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-18 04:17:03 +0000 UTC@E C - It's so amazing how you can just say the very first thing on your mind ... then maybe regret it later. Very neotonous. I suspect this thread has run its course.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-18 03:52:14 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Wouldn't blocking someone MEAN that you turned against them? So, you unblocked them later on?
Joseph Omega
2024-08-18 03:46:00 +0000 UTC@E C - Did @RhodiumMaiden tell you women shouldn't vote?
Joseph Omega
2024-08-18 03:39:58 +0000 UTCNobody could turn me against anyone if they tried. My investigation: Deleting is permanent, but blocking is not. It appears blocking blocks you both from seeing each other’s comments. However, you can unblock any time you like and all is back to normal. So go ahead and block and unblock all you want if it keeps you sane. On another Patreon, I blocked someone because he often posts 10-20 comments in a row that are totally unrelated to anything in the videos or other people’s comments.
Eric Linden
2024-08-18 02:37:25 +0000 UTC@E C - On voting: Sure. Still, they always HAVE -- through the "soft power" manipulation of their husbands, brothers, boyfriends, sons and fathers. There is ZERO technological, administrative or political advance that was not at the behest, request or subtle suggest of some woman or group of women, somewhere. That's just how men ARE. Separating men from women in the decision-making process just polarizes and confuses the natural evolutionary-derived process.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-18 02:11:28 +0000 UTC@E C - Personally, I think sanity is overrated. And I've learned that "never" is a VERY long time. Oh, and I almost forgot: I'm TERRIBLY hurt. 😥 But I think I'll survive.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-18 02:01:24 +0000 UTC@E C - Well, as I said, your posts were deleted, so we can no longer recall your exact words. Don't blame the messenger. And @Eric Linden does not need me to see what transpires -- as long as the messages aren't deleted, of course. 😃 I OFTEN speak about Feminism, so I personally have no problem with your using the word -- I can't imagine anyone else feeling that you should not use it, as long as it is used respecfully and in a rational context without overt and oppresive "activism" and unncessary misandry. And your propensity to "block out" and "delete" your discomforts may not benefit your mental and spiritual health long term. Still, I can only lead you to certain approaches to the waterhole of our community discussion, but I can't make you drink. PS. Though they VERY FREQUENTLY are, you seldom seem to hear men complaining about "harassment" very much. Just an observation.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-18 01:02:06 +0000 UTC@castirondude - Yeah. So unfortunate.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-17 22:09:32 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - I think @E C said she deliberately REFRAINED from commenting on the latest video to "spare our feelings" or something -- hard to rememebr as her post probably was deleted (out of "respect for our feelings" or something). Perhaps she can explain further (and you can get a chance to read her post before it too is deleted). But, I HAVE been responding to her everywhere ELSE she has posted, though many of the threads may be a bit unintelligible because whole swaths of the her messages were deleted. Did I mention she deletes stuff rather often? 🤨
Joseph Omega
2024-08-17 22:08:19 +0000 UTC@E C - Seems SUCH a sad life to have to live without fairytales. Like a Grinch, no wonder those sad and lonely and angry Feminists hope to exorcise all of this love and romance from our Hollywood dreams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvsKaK4SJNI I guess if THEY can't have it, NOBODY should.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-17 22:01:49 +0000 UTCyalls passion is commendable. Let's not devolve into anger, blocking, all that stuff.
castirondude
2024-08-17 19:19:16 +0000 UTCAha! This is where you two have been hiding! We are all commenting on the latest video, but you two are over here! The blocking thing is strange here on Patreon. I know how it works in Group Chats on another Patreon (hint hint AG), as I have a couple people blocked there. It actually shows me they made a post, but doesn’t show the actual post. I will have to experiment with it.
Eric Linden
2024-08-17 18:55:48 +0000 UTC@E C - So, a pick-me happy ending? Like in pre-Feminist days? Like Cinderella? 😃
Joseph Omega
2024-08-17 05:25:47 +0000 UTC@E C - The term "cast away" was YOURS -- small wonder you keep forgetting what you say, as you keep deleting the very records of your having said it. Not sure I even understand "fall in love in a platonic way" -- must be "womanese". And your female attraction to sadness and pain is the stuff of "chick flick" legend, so not surprising. How does one "see" a "blocked" message? And how would @MB go about SENDING you anything if your messages and profile no longer appear for him? In the show, did he (pick her)?
Joseph Omega
2024-08-17 04:03:08 +0000 UTC@E C - You've heard me say multiple variants by now of "I can be nice or I can be honest, but I can't be both." I enjoy and look forward to your posts -- that is why I try to respond so promptly. This Patreon is not MY source of income, so I am free to be perfectly honest and objective with you in an attempt to have you LEARN what ostensibly you came here to learn about men ... and maybe about yourself. You're welcome. 🙏
Joseph Omega
2024-08-16 00:35:04 +0000 UTC@E C - Then he flatters you needlessly: I'd not say "brave", but clueless and careless -- modern "Western" women show little sign of being "afraid" of doing ANYTHING in a public or policed environment. These popular feminine traits appear to be based upon a general lack of responsibility or accountability for their actions and words within a Gynocentric-dominated (but Patriarchally Policed) cultural context. In my opinion, VENTING and TANTRUMS are not very good indicators of strength OR bravery in ANY way. PS. Have you ever heard of a practice called "Strategic Simping"? Often it is the only method of curtailing what I call "Weaponized Hysteria" short of psychological or psychiatric intervention.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-15 17:09:17 +0000 UTCIf you think reaching 30years makes you reach peak growth that means to me you don't know what the genuine Human experience is supposed to be about. There is so much repressed potential in our bio-spirtitual development it's insulting to think this way.
ATH-YF
2024-08-14 20:15:54 +0000 UTC@E C - You're welcome. 👍
Joseph Omega
2024-08-14 03:53:31 +0000 UTC@E C - So your answer is "yes" to BOTH questions, right? You HAVE come a long way baby ... 😉
Joseph Omega
2024-08-14 03:27:15 +0000 UTC@E C - As is sometimes said in pop psychotherapy: "I am who you need me to be". But alas we finally agree on something: We are all indeed terribly but beautifully human, man and woman created He them.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-13 18:15:52 +0000 UTC@E C - Wow! These are surprisingly logical, reasonable, respectful and productive comments. VERY proud of you. I just hope you don't have a relapse and say something you'll subsequently regret and have to delete. I just have ONE clarifiying question for you at this time. You said "When I have made more than my boyfriends, I felt masculine. I want to feel feminine in my relationship." Are you expressing a need to be submissive to a man's "masculine leadership", and so a "submissive provider" is a contradiction in terms? Is "submission to masculine leadership" a necessary component for you of "femininity"?
Joseph Omega
2024-08-13 17:56:19 +0000 UTCAbout the negotiation of resources and being well provided for, I think it’s an emotional decision than logical.-Like how a woman making 150k is still hypergamous and wants a man who makes more even if she technically doesn’t need more. Also, people use short cuts to weed through partners. Automatically discounting single fathers means less screening needed.
Mack T
2024-08-12 22:49:35 +0000 UTC@Ashwin Srinivas - As it is for MOST men a "seller's market", it is not all that easy to exercise the option of "walking away" -- "basic self respect and dignity" seldom, by themselves, secures sexual access, far less fatherhood. Still, I of course agree with: "Men and women need to understand each other, acknowledge differences and try to account for them so that they can live together peacefully."
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 22:48:50 +0000 UTCIt’s “acceptable.” At a certain point, there’s not a lot of good options when you’re getting farther along the Norwood scale. He’s probably thought about how he wants his hair and feels fine enough about it. I’d be shocked if he decided to shave his head but I’d like to believe I’d still watch his content
Mack T
2024-08-12 22:43:21 +0000 UTCBut it takes two to tango! I get that this one-sided mindset can lead to a rift but the man has the option of walking away. Basic self respect and dignity are all you need. But of course, it's problematic that in this climate, this happens more often than it should. Men and women need to understand each other, acknowledge differences and try to account for them so that they can live together peacefully.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-08-12 22:12:26 +0000 UTCI didn't see anything on Youtube, I don't get why people care so much about folks' haircuts, they need to get a life xxx
Alisha
2024-08-12 21:52:20 +0000 UTC@E C - With you at 42 and me at 22, strictly, I'm the one flattering YOU! 😉 PS. Do I REALLY sound like I'm 22? Maybe you ARE flattering me after all! 😄 PPS. So the answer is "no", that he is unaware of your after-hours online paid adventures? Perhaps he has his own as well of which you may be unaware?
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 21:01:31 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - This has probably been the most accurate and concise description of the phenomenon that I have EVER read. 💯% correct! 👍👍👍
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 20:59:56 +0000 UTC@Ashwin Srinivas - I'm afraid that given today's Matriarchal climate, it is in fact one-sided.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 20:57:39 +0000 UTC@ M B The amount of resources she can get from the guy in question is negotiated at some point and I don't think his having a kid would make any difference, if the amount of resources the woman is getting will be enough. But yeah, single guys without kids would be the preferred way but unfortunately, as I shared, single guys getting with single moms is not the best idea. As for the shit tests and 'death by a thousand cuts', do you not think the man is also vetting the woman, and if she's not playing her part, she would have to answer for it too or risk losing him. Assuming the guy has some basic self-respect to walk away. This isn't one-sided.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-08-12 16:49:05 +0000 UTC@ Eric Linden Yeah, that manner of undermining a man's authority in the household and similar conflicts is one more reason a man shouldn't try to get with a single mom thinking that he can play a father's role wit her kids. Now, with his own kids that's a different story.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-08-12 16:45:20 +0000 UTC@ Eric Linden I don't get why single moms care about whether or not the guy is a dad. As long as she doesn't have to share any resources in raising a child that isn't hers. I guess if the guy is a single man without kids, that wouldn't be a possibility at all so there's that. But he may not expect her to bear that burden. But it doesn't always go the other way around in that the man is not relinquished of his provider role.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-08-12 16:43:21 +0000 UTCYouTube is disparaging AG’s haircut. I have no problem with it. It’s much nicer than my bald head. But do any other Patrons want to weigh in?
Eric Linden
2024-08-12 13:28:55 +0000 UTCWhat I’ve seen: The man without kids of his own comes into the relationship thinking he can act as a parent. The woman quickly takes that away from him. She comes around the corner and tells him he’s doing it wrong. He eventually becomes a babysitter afraid of being scolded for not raising the kids in a feminist way. When he offers a punishment by taking something away, she will return the item to the child undermining his authority. There are many things a male parent naturally does differently. Kids need both a masculine and a feminine parenting style. When mom is around, things are done more her way. When dad is around, they are done more his. Kids try to play the parents against each other. Good parents back each other up in front of the kids, then discuss their differences privately. A man with kids is a better match for a woman with kids because the man already has the clout of being a parent on his own, and won’t put up with her “teaching” him how to raise kids. Everyone goes into raising kids blind at first, only equipped with the experience of being a kid. AG has given the stats in another video on the success rates of kids raised by a man and a woman, 1 or 2 men, and 1 or 2 women. Those stats don’t lie. When a man is forced to raise kids with a woman in a feminist way under the authority of a woman, he isn’t really raising them.
Eric Linden
2024-08-12 09:39:13 +0000 UTCSingle mum's prefer a new man without kids in an attempt to secure exclusivity of his resources for HER offspring without competition from other kids without her genes. W.r.t. the phenomenon of emasculation, this is potentially applied by most women, initially in the form of subconscious 'shit-tests' seeking reassurance of his masculinity... but evolving to 'death by a thousand cuts' for a man who doesn't maintain his masculine frame and leadership role in the relationship I.e. a man who doesn't command respect, resulting in the woman losing respect (and love) for him.
MB
2024-08-12 07:11:04 +0000 UTC@E C - Is he aware of these paid extended nocturnal pursuits of yours?
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 06:05:05 +0000 UTC@E C - I don't want to make your boyfriend jealous ...
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 05:34:35 +0000 UTC@E C - You appear uncommonly obsessed with me. Do I intrigue you THAT much? Ok, ok, I AM 22 ... sheesh.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 05:22:23 +0000 UTC@E C - You wish me to tell you in "confidence", then delete it?
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 05:08:45 +0000 UTC@E C - My 7-year old godson believes I'm 106. That would mean I'm eligible for a woman at most 85.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 04:31:32 +0000 UTCBest pair for a single mom is indeed a single dad. However, single moms don’t usually want a single dad for some reason. They want a guy without kids, and once they’ve got him, they emasculate him.
Eric Linden
2024-08-12 03:53:28 +0000 UTC@MB - Nature indeed has an uncanny sense of justice and balance in the longer term.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 02:17:59 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - I think the older the man is, the greater the acceptable differences in age. For example, a 80 year old man and a 60 (or even 50) year old woman seems perfectly reasonable. Also, much depends on the generation tow ahcih each identifies -- there may be Boomer men and women who identify as Gen-X, Millennials who identify as Gen-Z or vice versa to whom atypical age relationships may be perfectly viable.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 02:13:12 +0000 UTC@MB - Indeed.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 00:01:26 +0000 UTCI think the subject of age matching is important and must be discussed objectively and doesn't have to paint a very rosy picture or one of doom and gloom. Although, the latter seems to be the norm online. I will share my thoughts on this below and would love to hear anyone else's opinions too. I think women are most attractive between the ages of 25 to 35. Mainly because I do value maturity and substance. And if she has worked on herself in terms of education, fitness and having hobbies, even better. If she's too young and lacks substance, she's just a pretty face and/or hot body and nothing long term can sustain. If she's too old, then from a fertility and pair-bonding standpoint, she is not a good prospect. My age-match recommendation for single men who are ready to start looking for a long-term partner and/or want to start a family and also what I am personally abiding by is below*: men aged <25 -> women aged 18-28 men aged 25-30 -> women aged 22-32 ( This is where I'm at :) ) men aged 30-35 -> women aged 25 to 35 men aged 35+ -> women aged 28-35 As for women 35+ who are still single, I think they are a good match for older men, especially ones that don't want kids or any more kids, at least. *-> It is important to note that general quality is assumed on both ends in that the guy is high value or at least has good potential and that the woman is high quality or has potential to be and does not have a promiscuous past. Special mention to single moms of any age. Single moms get a lot of hate and discouragement online and I think this is needlessly so. Especially because they don't fully understand or look into the circumstances surrounding her situation. Objectively speaking, for a single guy who wants to start a family, it is a much better idea to look for a single woman with the above age range guidelines. This is one thing that the manosphere gets right. But what the manosphere doesn't properly elaborate on are the viable alternatives for single moms. I think single dads and men who don't want kids are good matches for single moms. If I end up in a long-term relationship with a single mom, it will be because I am a single dad. For now, I hope that doesn't happen to me XD.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-08-11 21:52:52 +0000 UTCFair. My sense of natural justice carries me away at times. Even still, the universe is infinite, including being infinitely powerful and wise, in that it provides the experiences we require to evolve... if we choose so. The universe also doesn't appreciate being tampered with... its perfection distorted by the lies and deceit of the ignorant and wicked. Over the longer term, balance is restored... and opportunities to learn/ evolve are presented.
MB
2024-08-11 17:54:35 +0000 UTCFully agreed.
MB
2024-08-11 17:48:30 +0000 UTCAs far as age gap relationships go, half your age plus 7 is a good guideline. For a 30 year old man, that would be 22. For a 40 year old, it would be 27. More than 18 years seems creepy to many because she could be your child. Dating someone younger than your oldest child crosses a line for me.
Eric Linden
2024-08-11 12:01:37 +0000 UTCI agree with most of that. However, time does not always reward the wise and punish the ignorant. We’ve seen what happens on Survivor, where the weak people sometimes team up to eliminate the strong ones.
Eric Linden
2024-08-11 11:55:08 +0000 UTCYes... and this socially re-engineered culture is both a relatively recent phenomenom, and also completely flawed. But that's ok... time will remedy the imbalance by rewarding the wise and punishing the ignorant and wicked, mainly by them experiencing a lower quality of life. Their self-elimination from the human gene pool i.e. them not breeding, acts to self-correct. (Le Chatellier's Principle).
MB
2024-08-11 09:19:32 +0000 UTC@JΩ: yes... I thought the same whem I first heard this succinct explanation some time ago. And they're neither good/ bad... nor better/ worse... nor superior/ inferior... they just aptly and siccinctly explain the significant difference between the males and females of the human species (and other species) across cultures and time. I think it's also important to note that while some females object to being labelled a 'sex object'... in truth, women are the primary instigators of objectifying themselves sexually as they are also the primary benefactor of the privilege this creates for them.
MB
2024-08-11 09:11:28 +0000 UTC@MB - Sex Objects versus Success Objects is an accurately ingenious turn of phrase.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-11 04:32:59 +0000 UTCThe culture tells us, unlike men, on a scale from 1 to 10, all women are 8, 9, or 10. The culture tells us at age 100, a woman will finally look 50.
Eric Linden
2024-08-10 18:08:08 +0000 UTCI wrote this in a sub-comment but want to post it as a separate point When you mature you become more established and capable but also less flexible. It can be hard for 30+ers who matured single to adjust to married life. Whereas if you marry young, you mature together, grow together. That would be a case to explain a 30+ guy marrying a 20 year old woman. He has resouces, capability, but is not so flexible. She has no resources but is flexible and can fit into his pre-existing life.
castirondude
2024-08-10 16:34:39 +0000 UTCVery interesting topic and this is how I gauge the quality of a woman. Is she facing her own ageing? If not, I move on. In my eyes, women in denial about their own aging or who see men as the problem have low Relationship Market Value. They are a waste of time and potentially toxic toward men. I also believe the women who have faced their aging are already in committed relationships. I have been encountering women who are in the process of facing their ageing. I believe these women are the ideal relationship market opportunity and there is an opportunity to be viewed as “irreplaceable” as they go through this transformation. I hope Alexander dives deeper into this scenario. From what I have seen, a woman facing her ageing is an iterative process and she has to go through more than one relationship to do it successfully.
Mark Bryski
2024-08-10 11:54:48 +0000 UTC@cast iron: "best to marry in early 20's"... honestly, in this day and age, I'm not sure how many men in their early 20's have the emotional maturity (or the financial means) to marry and start a family in their early 20's... as I think you noted of yourself even in your early adult life. It's tricky though, huh? Most men only start to truly create value in society from ~30 years of age, once they've learn skills and can competently create value for others.
MB
2024-08-10 08:07:05 +0000 UTCOne's age of reaching emotional maturity varies a lot. My wife and I both came from broken families. We were 31 when we married. After we married we figured out we actually met at one point when we were 16-17 and so wished we had hooked up and married much earlier. Everything we did in our 20's alone would have been so much more fun to do together. But we didn't have the emotional maturity then. If we had gotten serious early in life we may just have messed it up and broken up. But by the time I met her seriously, I went on a lot of dates and I can tell she is special ; with that knowledge I am fully committed to making things work, and vice versa. If you're in a position that you can marry in your early 20's that's better than 30s.
castirondude
2024-08-10 05:31:48 +0000 UTCThroughout time, in human societies women have been sex objects, whereas men have been success objects. Women are gifted their value at birth... whereas men must work to create their value. The value older women have provided society has primarily been their matriarchal support of the extended family unit they committed to i.e. caring for others. (The day my Nan passed away she had 63 direct descendants... and her maternal role made her the happiest woman I have ever met... no degrees, no career, no driving licence... just a huge family she happily presided over, loved and cared for and who greatly valued her as a mother and the personification of femininity). Given that we now live in a world where a significant and increasing portion of women truly only care for themselves, and they often struggle to do so (they NEED men to survive... whether a male partner, or a tradesman), then all they really have to rely upon for a sense of value is their looks. As their looks inevitably fade in parallel with their fertility evaporating... these women are left with very little to offer anybody... hence their desperate attempts to try and cope with their reality by denial. (There is not much more ridiculous than a dusty woman pretending she still carries the value of fertile, pretty, soft youth). In a conversation with a table of locals just last week, I was told that as recently as the 1960's on the Greek island Hydra that both children born with abnormalities and elderly women without family, were placed in cane baskets and pushed off a cliff into the sea. Reality is brutal, and denial just leads to greater challenges for women as they attempt to cope. This explains the increasing amount of bitter, angry women who blame others (especially men) for their plight... despite the fact that these lonely women chose this low value status for themself.
MB
2024-08-10 05:29:28 +0000 UTC
