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The Case of Karen Read [Early Premiere]

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Man, just when you start to think they don't make cases like they did in the 90s and early 00s anymore, a thing like this comes along. I wouldn't read comments before watching this one, it's a super divisive case, so why risk spoiling how I come out on it? Also if you're not already familiar with it, you really won't be able to guess specifically where it's going to go, so strap in...

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That’s precisely it - it’s one task I can focus on in the between time, which is just a good productivity thing. And plus yeah, an ad pitched to the converted would just mess with me on a neurotic level, no matter if people found the ad entertaining lol

Matt Orchard

although everyone here is already sold, it would be nice to have the patreon plug here. they are very entertaining and I'd rather not have to go on YT and watch a dumb ad just to watch your good ad. If you usually make those between the Patreon and Youtube releases that's fine though

sammer

i'm reposting my youtube comment here as PROOF i watched it here first (and because it's kind of off topic for yt anyway): "i slammed on the spacebar at the face reveal-- i wasn't watching the screen on Patreon my first watch??? I LOVE YOU MATT YOU'RE CUTE AS HELL AND YOU GOT A NICE BEANIE" (btw nice beanie)

srahhh

The fact that so many people found that “journalist” compelling is shameful. Too many people in this country think that rhetoric is smart 😩

Ember Bennett

I do agree they did enough to give the jury reasonable doubt. Though, to quote the video on JBR “just how big and numerous can you really expect coincidences to be?”. Getting that many people to falsely claim to hear her talking about hitting him is unlikely, even if they cant seem to keep their story straight under pressure. Once again, the case seemed airtight, they went to trial, lawyers found enough to destroy the case, now they cant try it again.

Ember Bennett

This vid is a little Over analytical for ppl with low attention span, but besides that, this is a super good video. Nice job as always Mr. Orchard

Gizmo

The graphics of the dog moving from Mass to VT stole the entire documentary for me.

Sonseed

Thanks for the catch!

Matt Orchard

You misspelled battery at 1:16:30

D BB

Thank you so much for laying the details out so thoroughly! I had been half-following this case and there are a lot of obvious, biased rundowns, but not a lot of objective analysis of the case. I love your stuff and am glad that I’m subbed to your content

Kaylee

I think there's reasonable doubt. Period. Our law is designed to prevent the innocent from being in prison. If there's reasonable doubt, even if she DID do it, she should go free. End of story. The burden is on the state to prove her guilt. Edit: I know it's likely she did it, but the law has to take into account all cases as a whole. It's about the bigger picture, not just this case. If it's gonna work, it has to work in a way that's fair for all, even at the expense of one or more lost cases. There's no better way to make the law work that we know of currently.

Gizmo

How did she get away with this! The crash test seemingly benefits the prosecution, and what even was that with the juror at the end!

Staive Gaming

If you put Karen Reed in a sealed box with a vial of poison that can randomly go off at any time or even not at all, she is both guilty AND innocent until you look inside to see the results.

Gizmo

Awesome! Been looking forward to this one! Cheers matt

zomb1elvis

Quite a restrained and sober discussion of the case! The accusations of corruption were everywhere. Some of the causal stuff was included, but not all of it by a long shot. Especially the judge was a target of suspicion.

corvdb1992 .

Matt didn't watch these trials live, and catching up with the entirety of both of them, along with all related motions filed and court orders is a very tall order.

Cosmo Reverb

The judge was so corrupt, and the DA went out of his way to put out a video claiming she was guilty during her trial. She was wrong to drive drunk, but she was railroaded by the state. Did yall watch the trial?! I watched a lot of the 2nd one, and I am convinced she was framed. There is a lot of corruption in Massachusetts, look up microdots, on YT he explains it awesomely.

Angie Lynch

Just finished the video. So one thing I've thought about is that I think Karen Read was overcharged, going from manslaughter to 2nd degree murder. I feel like the prosecution was always going to have a difficult time proving full blown murder in this case. I would like to know how the case got upgraded from manslaughter to murder. Perhaps it was from Karen's angry voice messages she left on John's phone? Perhaps these were used to indicate malice? But I don't think these would even be enough to indict someone for murder. Either way, I believe she was overcharged, and I think this is one of the reasons why she was ultimately let go by the jury. All in all, I do think the jury got this one right, as I just don't think there was enough clear and convincing evidence to fully convict Read. Trooper Proctor looked fucking AWFUL, with tons of suspect behavior during his investigation, as well as those messages, which left me completely baffled. At the very least, the investigation was botched and Proctor had clear tunnel vision towards Read and nobody else. And who knows? Maybe Read did it, and the jury just let her walk free. But given the evidence (or lack thereof) and the amount of reasonable doubt her lawyers provided, I think releasing her was the only real option for the jury. With that said, if Read didn't splurge on top tier Lawyers, I wonder how this case would have played out... Great video, Matt. 👍

Joe Shea

As a New England native I gotta admit I love hearing all the Boston middle aged women talk. Reminds me of hanging out with my family, hysteria and all

Rosalind Margulies

Personally I think she probably did do it while completely wasted but there's nowhere near enough evidence to charge her let alone convict her. Thanks for the excellent breakdown of this case ❤️

Bronwyn Boyd

“Vodka OJ” is the best Karen Read diss I’ve heard around the internet!

Matt Orchard

THANK you-- I had listened to a super basic Wondery podcast on this case to try to make heads or tails of my mom's obsession with it. We were in agreement that the cops fucked up, but I felt like I must be missing something, because why on earth are so many people jumping to defend this (sorry!) DEEPLY unpleasant woman who was definitely driving wasted that night? I can't say I'm any closer to understanding in an intellectual sense, but spiritually I've settled on "Karen Read is OJ for white women." Blown away by how damning that cell phone evidence was, though.

Lee Basil

I live in eastern MA. Its crazy how while the trial was ongoing, police departments and pro-police businesses were putting up "JUSTICE FOR OKEEFE" signs as if it was like an anti-police thing to think Karen Read probably didnt do it

isaiah

Matt Orchard, I love your cameo appearance at 44:45

SHAUN BAILEY

My wife produced the ID doc that premiered on Max this year. Such an interesting case.

Miles Lemaire

IT'S TWO FUCKING HOURS??? let's gooooooo 🎉

Claire

I'm excited to watch your breakdown of this one. I watched both trials and this case wild.

Emily Cruz

While I know some details about this case, I was purposefully withholding looking too deeply into it until this video came out. This one really seems like a doozy, so I'm looking forward to watching this. Keep up the great work, Matt! 👍

Joe Shea

Yesss it’s here

Cronker Waltite

First day of the new semester tomorrow! THANK YOU MATT

Yonder

Yay, perfect timing. It's a boring Sunday afternoon right now, so thanks for sorting out my next 1:54:17 !

Alan Holding


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