The Completionist Is Shakespearean (The Meta of DRAMA) | Electric After Dark
Added 2023-11-20 09:17:06 +0000 UTCToday for the Electric After Dark Podcast I discuss my thoughts on the Completionist Drama situation -- except instead of talking about the drama in itself, I talk about the meta of drama in the world of youtube (a meta I've grown to despise), and the underlying human nature of these public "downfall of" type of situations that everyone can't help but engage in, especially if you have something to benefit from. I don't talk about DRAMA like this on my main channel, since I would then be directly participating in the drama sphere, even if that's not my intention. But here on the patreon podcast it is the perfect space to have what I think is a really interesting discussion without the added dimension of public declarations.
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Oh yea drama vids definitely are just reactionary content that feeds people's desire for blood. One exception I think is the new Hbomberguy vid that exposes how so many popular youtube channels are all essentially plagiarist content mills that unrepentantly steal without sourcing, which I think might help the website if it gets enough traction. I guess thats almost like "youtube investigative journalism" though.
Draino
2023-12-05 15:19:47 +0000 UTCYeah and it just is empty content at the end. It's nice and juicy when it's DRAMA time, but then it just becomes empty calories and I do think it creates some sort of weird karma or something. Yes, his video format is truly nuts. I honestly have been very skeptical over the years that he was actually completing all the games in a proper sense, because it seems like if you did end up doing that, you would have some moment of clarity that the hook is absurd and a waste of time.
The Electric Underground
2023-12-04 04:41:30 +0000 UTCAvoiding engaging in youtube drama seems like the most sensible move to maintain sanity. Some of these creators' fans have seemingly limitless free time and are absolutely insane. I'd hate to have them on my back harassing me. Also, I'd never watched the Completionist, but it was hilarious the way you described his content hook. It sounds like a living hell committing to that haha.
Draino
2023-12-02 20:13:15 +0000 UTCYes it's like the internet trial of the year, at least for me. I don't think it's popped up on the wider internet that much though, since the completionist has been fading in relevance over the past 5 years or so.
The Electric Underground
2023-11-22 00:21:20 +0000 UTCyeah they really are structured that way. It's like even if your intentions are good, a whole lot of money is going to be sucked off through pure administrative overhead (which is built into the deal of course). It's playing with fire as a youtuber I think.
The Electric Underground
2023-11-22 00:20:18 +0000 UTCOh yes I remember that one really well because it was the first time that this retro-gamer youtube scene had a really juicy scandal and oh boy everyone was coming out of the woodwork to blast Jared right out of the sky. Then it turned out to be fabricated accusations right ... that must have felt a bit awkard ha. I didn't know jared jumped on the bandwagon but that also doesn't surprise me either.
The Electric Underground
2023-11-22 00:19:13 +0000 UTCYes exactly Mars, and I do find it sort of interesting that Jobst has become this type of youtuber, since I remember him being part of the whitegoose goldeneye scene. I'm not even sure what motivated Karl to go down this road, other than perhaps some crazy feedback loops of drama vids becoming more views, and then feeding back into that to the point where that's what your channel becomes. I personally would feel extremely uncomfortable digging into people's lives to this extent, but the TMZ business model is clearly effective. I do wonder how long this will last before he himself gets under the lens.
The Electric Underground
2023-11-22 00:16:01 +0000 UTCYeah the case just fascinates me too much not to talk about ha. I'm really curious what his response will be, I check on his channel daily lol.
The Electric Underground
2023-11-22 00:04:40 +0000 UTCCharities seem designed to turn into legal scams. I don't blame you for keeping your hand off of that stove.
Tim French
2023-11-21 18:49:32 +0000 UTCThe Pro-Jared controversy was a life lesson for me. I bought into every accusation and didn't second-guess a thing. Then it turned out it was bullshit.
Tim French
2023-11-21 17:36:27 +0000 UTCI have no idea what happened to the completion completionist but colour me intrigued
Elenddil
2023-11-20 18:21:40 +0000 UTCI knew I was in for a treat with that title and that intro music, I love this. I love the more esoteric topics as well though and I would assume others do, too, so no need to hold those back from my perspective. The "YouTuber downfall" drame that I really followed was about ProJared, and I'm pretty sure Jirard did chime in on the against-Jared side in the YouTube comments somewhere. (Just mentioning this because you didn't remember if he ever participated in this kind of drama)
Steve-Fiction
2023-11-20 13:19:58 +0000 UTCGood episode, I'm always weary about these drama youtubers and exposé's, especially on such gray areas like this. I never liked Karl Jobst for this reason, people who's entire identity revolves around calling out others like this. (ESPECIALLY because he has skeletons in his closet) While I dont know the youtuber in question about this episode, it is a little confusing to see people jump to a lot of conclusions. While it's bad a charity didnt donate the money, the money also is just sort of sitting there. If something evil was going to happen, it would have been done already. Clearly something went wrong, regardless, the corpse that has been dragged out into the open air is being feasted on by everyone, despite the huge gray area.
mars bar
2023-11-20 10:53:52 +0000 UTCI thought you might cover this topic given some things you've discussed on the podcast in the past, looking forward to listening to this one :)
RiffMason
2023-11-20 10:31:00 +0000 UTC
