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Tell me your opinion about Royal Honey!

Hey guys! :)

I finished a new comic, a with that a new challange has ended. Just like from the previous ones, I learned a lof from this comic, and tried to pay attention to a lot of small details. And of course I made a lot of new mistakes, so I have another opportunity to learn X) I’m proud of what I could accomplish, but because I learned everything I know in an autodidact method (aka. self teaching), and with that a lot of bad things got ingrained in me. I want to get better with every new comic I make, and I still want to make a lot of comics, and put quality content in front of you. But I need your help to achive that. Not that you haven’t helped until now, but there are a few things I’m curious about.

What did you think about Royal Honey overall? I’m curious about your personal opinion. Now to think about it, I want to make something like this after every comic, so you won’t escape! :D

So about the comic:

Did you like it? Did you hate? Or it was just meh?

What did you like, what did you hate. What are the aspect you think were exeptional, and what were the ones you saw much better somewhere else?

What is that should be improved in the next comic?

I made a few headlines to help you put your opinion in words:

1. Story (It’s quality, was it interesting enough…)

2. Poses (Where they varied enough..)

3. Dialogs (Their quality, did it add to the scene/story…)

4. Characers (Design, personality, how interesting they were)

5. Paneling (How did the comic tell the story…)

6. Or anything else

You can write here in the comments, or even in private. Don’t hold back, I’m really curious about what you think! :) 

Tell me your opinion about Royal Honey!

Comments

Well New Dawn and subsequently your next project should more than buy time to think, dream, and work on that at your leisure.

Nick R. Kupila

if you feel paneling is your shortcoming do not try and go overboard on it trying weird stuff. Again, most of the time paneling can be used powerfully to make something (literally) pop out by doing something weird with the panels exactly when something very important (to the plot or theme) was about to happen. For example, let's take the orgasm in page 16. If you had a circle of panels half obscured of the two making love and Alma going more and more feeble on her "i can keep up" then made the two of them with alma in full orgasm OVERLAP the whole page, obscuring several panels, that would have been a very potent image indeed. You kept your paneling very conservative for the whole comic so when you break the norm you are sending a message of how important that one detail is to the story. Much like the lamplight page on "sad Evie in train" in new dawn was very important and highlighted how important that one thing was and how it affected her judgement, seeing a few panels of the queen trying to mantain composure and then slapped in front of them obscuring them partially would have highlighted how any effort and composure the queen tried to make in those last few moments before the orgasm was completely moot. Panels could also mean a different thing with their shape, if they are all askew they might highlight something. For example if the panels were all perfect rectangle, then when Bryta destroys the queen's defenses they might have faltering borders or destroyed borders, then they could subsequently be askew, to show that the queen has lost all the control she had until that moment. You could even play with "special border effects" but only if you do this stuff seldom. If it's constant it loses any meaning. All the panels have is their shape. What you show inside them is how you frame each shot, but the shape itself, much like speech bubbles or stuff like that, can be a powerful tool in describing how important something is and what is the effect after that moment. Let me send you to a master 😉👍 <a href="http://www.makingcomics.com/composition/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.makingcomics.com/composition/</a>

Simone Spinozzi

I’m very happy you saw so many positive things in my comic, and you barely see anything not to like! Next to the faces, I love drawing hands the most. They have an incredible huge expressive power :) Yes, there is no info in the comic about the honey, and what they use it for, others said that too, and of course there is a lot of potencial in a sequel, so I tought I might just leave it for later :) The main goal here was to express that it’s from a very famous person, it is very valuable, and hard to obtain. And what a status it is, when you can spread a queen’s honey on your bread :D As I said, I want to make a sequel, but it’s still far away. Now looking at that page, that panel really has some problems. The characters might have some slight differences on every page. I can’t concentrate equally on every single page, but I’m planning to change that in the future. Thank you very much for everything you wrote! ^^ It felt great you loved so many thing in my comic, and how well I could express their emotions. that’s what I always enjoy the most. And I hope I’ll only get better in that too :)

Zummeng

There is indeed a sequel in work, but it is still in a very early phase, and really far away. It still needs a lot of work and ideas.

Zummeng

Yes, Alma’s design wasn’t easy to draw, and drawing the same thing again and again can be exhausting XD Especially because of the different poses. But as I always like to say, I welcome challange :) Yes, there wasn’t enough time for them to really fall in love, and it was a bit rushed at the end. The whole comic was a bit longer then I originally wanted, and the romantic part at the end is there to spice up the act a bit. It’s a shame there was no more time for the two of them, and I think the comic still turned out to be a bit raw. To be honest, for me an erotic comic without a story or dialogs are pretty weak, and there are no value in them. I know porn has only one goal but without likeable characters, and funny or cute story I wouldn’t have any affinity do make them at all. That was always the case. I know it’s really relative, but I like if the story, or at least the dialogs add to the whole experience.

Zummeng

You were VERY FAR from being demolishing, seriously. So don’t worry about that :) I admit, sometimes I just stop when I draw a comic, and I look puzzled for minutes „Where should I place these arms? Where?” But luckily I can always solve this problem, even if not with the best results. And yes, I payed a lot of attention for her arms, that se doesn’t do random, meaningless things, that wouldn’t be coherent after all. So keeping that four arm „in theme” was a tough challange :D But an enjoyable one :) And the things you said about her abdomen, I find them exciting in insectoid characters too. I have a few bug anthro characters who are much more insect like, or act more like an insect. Alma is the bug like in from them all. She’s in fact a totaly different topic, because I designed her from the go as a NSFW character, and most of her features were supporting that. Her wings are crumpled in a few bean-like thing on her back too, so she can hide them, and they won’t interfere with the act, and the won’t block the view. I know this doesn’t mean I couldn’t put more bug like features in her, but I felt that would detract from the theme of the comic. (Bryta came for her honey after all, not to observe the insect race, so I kept that as my main direction.) the whole comic was a bit short, I know, but it supposed to be ever shorter, and I just didn’t want it to go further without any proper direction. And there are still a lot of comic waiting to be made :D With the panels, you are absolutely right. I don’t feel that as my strenght either. I can always imagine what I want, but sometimes I can’t show thing to be as exciting as I imagined them in my head. The pages are always sketched down before I start working on them, but even then, I only realize too late what I really wanted to show here and there. Maybe that matters too, that I can’t concentrate on every single page equally, or I just don’t know enough little tricks yet. Everything I learned was after observations, so I count this as a fault of self-teaching. Thank you very much for explicate your opinion in such details, and I promise I’ll pay more attention to the panels in the future :)

Zummeng

First of all: there are not enough bugs in the furry fandom, so seeing a character portrayed as a protagonist was a nice change. This said let's go into an actual full review. As far as i'm concerned, since the target was "your average furry that wants basically human-relatable people and not the discovery of the human relatable features behind the monster" the character designs are very well made and display just the right amount of "animal" while still behaving and being basically human. True i find the appeal of bugs due to their alien-ness, but you have a character with four arms and kept the four arms of Alma active on all times and doing sensible stuff. You did not go overboard with them, trying to have them do stuff at random "just because" nor did you try and do something weird. It is true that most of the times you "sidestepped" the issue of the abdomen by basically treating it like a fluffy tail... which... eh... yeah, in understand the difficulty, using the abdomen like it should have been would have meant sticking a really hard shelled thing which would make most poses ... unattainable, but next time have it "pumping" fast when Alma gets excited since, well... it's basically a big heart that would pump the fluids inside her organs by... uhm... squishing said organs which are mostly down there. But you cannot go "too alien" on your audience or you lose it. So i understand the liberties. Would have loved if the contrast of the alien aspects of the queen was played with the story as it is now, where Brytha basically pierces her "shell" like that anyway. That would have made even an alien anatomy fall in second place to a "D'aww" moment. But i'm me... and i like weird stuff. Probably read too much science fiction when i was young. Still loved it a lot. Also: Wing Boner. For Brytha, doing that "reverse sabretooth" for our dear lioness evoked orcish imagery which is perfect for the barbarian she is, and also i liked that you played her "barbarian" role to the point. She's illiterate, not stupid. She researched her prey and used her "feminine wiles" without looking like your idiotic Hollywood stereotype. So triple points for managing to put "feminine wiles" where they belong instead of the trite clichés. Brytha comes off as a joke only until you don't understand that she does not care about anything that does not get the job done and she goes all 100% on the task itself, not really caring about form unless the form is the task itself. And boy did she shine in this comic. She played the queen like a war strategist, knowing full well when to use each tactic (though, okay she only used 2 tactics in total, but this comic was 19 pages, can't ask much more). Her whole physique is that of a warrior and she knows how to use it. Also: "Cat MLEM on a vagina" because i'm an idiot and makes me laugh. Back to being serious, the poses they take (again aside from all that was said above from the "tail abdomen" 🤷 to the "multiple arms" 😍 and "cat mlem" 🤣) were nicely used and it all works nicely from a human point of view. Though i must admit most of the work is not done by the poses themselves but by the framing of the shot in the panels, from the imposing queen that (honey already dripping) tries to play dominatrix with Brytha, to the details of "just the important bits" to "Sad Brytha in butt" 🤣👍... and given your art style where you use very few colors and those few have to count for a lot this was excellent. Since i'm here, putting the designs aside, i loved their behavior and their believability as characters. The comic sets the bar low by playing them both as a joke and then shows various layers of their personality thus involving more and more the reader into the whole endeavor. It's a real jewel if you ask me. Story wise it's not much. Your standard '80s excuse for porn, this time we have a collector instead of a plumber. It's the characters and the execution that make this fine comic shine, really. You asked about dialogue... Sooo much dialogue. Some people have the gift of synthesis, me i'm very verbose, you fall square in the middle. For porn this is a lot of speech, but it defines the characters and makes you care for them thus enhancing the involvement in the act of sex itself. All in all i'd call this an high standard. Paneling... is where this comic falls very short. Page 1 was the weakest confront with page 2 that the best, paneling wise. Page 16 was not really great either, this said i love how even empty backgrounds used so that the focus is on the characters still get put to a good use. So while the paneling itself might not be great... the framing is veeery nice most of the times. If you want to improve here the answer is simple: do not change one single thing EXCEPT when something very important happens. Some people like Moore go all wild on their paneling, but if you read their comic they all start their stories in very blocky and standard frames like yours, it's when something VERY important is on stage that the framing goes all post-modern. In this specific case you only took liberties with page 4 aaand they are very "conservative liberties". But as i said the framing is excellent, you nailed it, even if the panels themselves are nothing much to speak about, what they show is extremely important every time, from the landscapes to the sexual act itself which is the main focus of the story. All this said i loved it! Really high quality, several notches above the par. If it feels like i've demolished it on some parts..... wellllll. okay, sorry, but seriously. I loved this. Hope i don't get chewed.

Simone Spinozzi

My take on "The Barbarian and the Bi-polar Queen" as she herself so graciously styled. It was good all the way around though I was left wondering in terms of potential sequels that the bar was set quite high. I mean every collector has now become moot as the queen has her shiny toy. Other than that I kind of want to see more of our strapping barbarian and her adventures.

Nick R. Kupila

Sometimes I tought her muzzle was a strange idea, and not too buglike, and I was thinking about how much people would like it, and after I got used to it, I kept it that way :) And her honey is another story :)

Zummeng

You mean her personality, or the way she looks?

Zummeng

I liked pretty much all of it, the only thing that I had to get used to was the queens muzzle. It gave her the look of some kind of bee hybrid to be honest. Also what is the royal honey actually used for?

Alexander

I thought Alma's design was beautiful. Of all creatures I'd seen given an anthropomorphic design, bees usually retained most of their feral looks. They don't have muzzles of a sort like most animals do which made doing such a thing to them seem rather tough but you managed to pull it off AND make it look great. Bryta's design was also good. I liked how even though she was this masculine female, she was still this sweet person who could be gentle. (Because stupid stereotypes) And because of that part of her, she was able to reach into Alma like no one else could and make her feel things she'd never felt. That's a big part as to what made the sex so beautiful because, unlike so much I see in most, it gives it purpose. There's context behind it. It's just sex for the sake of it. I also like how you even managed to drip humor into it (PUT IT IN MY BUTT! and (STFU, I LOVE YOUR PUS). These two had chemistry and it evolved the story from, "Just collecting honey and banging ass in the process" to "Showing someone how it feels to be loved." While I think this could have used more time and development to feel more organic, cause Alma and Bryta didn't exactly spend lots of time to get to know each other, I think it was still nicely done given the time frame. And the story didn't exactly set it up to allow them to spend a lot of time together. Cause the whole collecting honey thing was kind of why she was there. But I think it showed these two could be a good couple. Bryta breaks down Alma's walls and can get through to her. Alma can, through being a funny smartass, help Bryta understand more social things....and accept that her fluffy vag is NOT a bad thing. (LOL) Overall, I loved the comic, and would love to see these two together more and see them develop more together. I can't help but imagine Bryta comes back for a visit or Alma searches for her somehow. Becasue Bryta left an impact on her and it caused her to change and grow becasue SMEX IS BOOTYFUL. (Seriously though) As for things like poses, I was impressed you managed to do well with a new character design like Alma. I'm sure that made you push yourself to think creatively about her anatomy. And the whole thing about her sex fluids being honey was honestly just really creative. I also can't thank you enough for how you treated the sex in this comic. I see too many where it's just sex for the sake of it. You gave it purpose by putting that bond between Alma and Bryta into the picture and it turned into love, making it beautiful to watch and look at. (Also, I liked how when Bryta started talking about making love to her, the panels got closer to them both, making it more intimate. It put a lot more focus on their facial expressions too. :D) Overall, I really enjoyed it and I want to see more of these two. It's inspirational to hear how you pushed yourself through all this and learned so much. And how good it felt. I can't wait to see what you come up with next. :D

Wasnt too much of a fan of the queen characters design but past that it was great

Konigstiger

Let me try to give you something helpful. I know how much i like to receive comments on my own works, after all. I hope i can give you some good and rewarding feelings for all your hard work. Story. I liked it, it was pretty original. The queen's personality made it funny, too. If anything, i wish to see more, and learn more about them, and why Bryta needed the honey so much. Is it truly so special? ; ) Poses, i think i liked all of them. There was good variety too. And your details are fantastic. You do great expressions, but also great hands. Bryta's working hand is incredibly sensual on page 5, for example. Never thought i'd say something like this! I love the character of Bryta. Strong body, nice features... love her hairstyle too. I have nothing bad to say about the queen either, but i really am all for felines. I hope she'll understand... as i said, their personalities played out nicely. I admire your art a lot, and i don't feel like anything is wrong. If i really, really had to identify some panels which could have looked better, i'd say the ones where Bryta undresses. I love how clumsy and non-sexy she does it, but her body there is not quite on par with how you drew her everywhere else. Still good, though. Keep going, you are doing great! And thanks for these! I like the inquisitive queen on this page a lot, too. Even with the quickest sketches, you always bring your characters to life.

Gabriele


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