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Andor 2x09 Reaction

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named my new cat after him

Peter

I'm so sad yall didn't recognize Melshi. Dude's a rock.

James Van Dyke

"The only special thing about me is luck." destroys me every time. Cassian, no! You are the spark!

Paul Montgomery

9 is my fav but 10 is so amazing too

Jesse S

My favorite episode is coming I’m nervous y’all we bout to witness some peak

Scared Cannon

Episodes 8,9 and 10 are all perfection. 10 is actually my favorite episode of the show.

Farbod

OMG them jumping to ep 10 thinking it’ll be calmer hehehe. That’s my personal favorite from S2

Sam

That was an speech important for the times we are living

refo44

Not every genocide has a Mon Mothma to advocate for it. Not every genocide is politically fashionable to talk about. In my lifetime alone there have been genocides against Ukrainians in Ukraine, Palestinians in Israel, Bosniaks in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Armenians in Azerbaijan, Yazidis in Iraq, Indigenous Mayans in Guatemala, Uyghurs in China, Tamils in Sri Lanka, the Rohingya in Myanmar, the Bambuti and Hutu in the Congo, the Darfuri in Sudan, and the Tutsis in Rwanda, to name a few. "Never again" my ass.

madgod

Past/Present is a stunning piece of music and Brandon Roberts was very wise to bring it back twice in the second season, after he took over the music from Nicholas Britell.

David Holmes

I’m a day late now but Milena I think it’s healthy to be skeptical going into Rogue One. Andor is a first (and hopefully not a last) for Star Wars, and the movie is part of the Hollywood Blockbuster spectacle with a very different tone, even if it is technically the final arc of Andor.

My Toasty Toast

Also, just randomly, the actor who plays the ISB agent on Bail's team is married IRL to the actor that played the man that Saw shot and claimed was an Imperial spy.

David Holmes

To add, its important to note that Melshi is also in Rogue One, someone that Cassian in the film trusts completely to be a leader.

David Holmes

Always love to point out... the ISB agent is repeatedly referred to as "Jung's Agent". Meaning Lonni was the one who put her on the task (and presumably didn't choose his best, based on her questionable effort). And thus Lonni was explicitly Luthen's source that Bail's team was compromised. Just like it was Lonni who told Luthen exactly what the plans were for Gorst and where he'd be. One of many pieces of vital info he funneled to Luthen. Lonni is truly one of the most important unsung heroes of the Rebellion. People like Lonni did the dirty and nasty work so the Lukes and the Han Solos could get the medals and recognition.

David Holmes

Dan Gilroy, the brother of the show's creator (Tony Gilroy) ,l who is the credited writer for this arc won an Emmy for this episode specifically (but probably meant to encompass the arc). In his acceptance speech he said "I have friends everywhere". The Emmy win: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6lqGz3TKnk

David Holmes

The man who said "that's mine" to Vel is Melshi. The guy that escaped prison with Cassian. That's why they zoomed in on him.

Synyster

I always find it funny when I remember that Palpatine is just off screen on Coruscant cackling to himself during all these events. He probably enjoyed Mon’s speech in a twisted way.

Arctic_stark

The two speeches Mon Mothma gives in Star Wars Rebels. The first has been changed to what she says in Andor. The second is referenced in this episode, which she gives while being transported to Yavin (the Rebel base). "I name the Emperor himself for ordering the brutal attacks on the people of Ghorman. Their peaceful world is one of countless systems helpless against his oppressive rule. This massacre is proof that our self-appointed Emperor is little more than a lying executioner, imposing his tyranny under the pretense of security. We cannot allow this evil to stand." "This is Senator Mon Mothma. I have been called a traitor for speaking out against a corrupt Galactic Senate. A Senate manipulated by the sinister tactics of the Emperor. For too long I have watched the heavy hand of the Empire strangle our liberties, stifling our freedoms in the name of ensuring our safety. No longer! Despite Imperial threats, despite the Emperor himself, I have no fear as I take new action. For I am not alone. Beginning today we stand together as allies. I hereby resign from the Senate to fight for you, not from the distant hall of politics but from the front lines. We will not rest until we bring an end to the Empire, until we restore our Republic! Are you with me?"

Jordan

IBS agent is great.. To be fair, the world would probably be a better place if we had agents out there trying to tackle irretable bowel synrdome

windyMelon

Also, when the two girls fixed the door and sequence key preventing the guy from shutting down the broadcast reminds me of Nemik’s line in his manifesto “even the smallest acts of insurgency pushes our lines forward.”

Michael Rashid

One detail was that the lady agent who Cassian shot was one of Lonnie Jung’s agents and that’s why Luthen knew Bail’s team was compromised. Lonnie is the ISB supervisor feeding Luthen information.

Michael Rashid

I thought it was the Morlana One gun too, but it’s been confirmed to actually be Syril’s that Cassian takes off of him on Ferrix and Skeen sees amongst his belongings on Aldhani “who does this belong to?” “I didn’t get a name…”

Dean

I love the detail of the score used when Cassian is driving Mon away after her speech. It’s the same song they used for the end of season 1, episode 3. In that episode the song is played over Cassian watching Luthen drive him away from Ferrix while he thinks back to Maarva driving the ship away from Kenari. Both of those scenes show Cass watching on as an authority / leadership figure helps him on the way to a new stage of his life and that’s exactly what’s happening to Mon in that moment. She leans back in the seat and watches as this stranger saves her. Her life as a senator is done in that moment. She knows she may never see her daughter again. She’s going into the unknown but we as the viewer know this is where they are destined to go. Beautiful storytelling and beautiful callback through a simple choice to reuse a score

Robthefunkyhomosapien

Lots to love in this episode. Like others mentioned the potential turning of Mon Mothma's driver Kloris is a perfect little moment and a big "what if" on whether he could have been turned or not. I also really like Bail Organa scene in the Senate, using the Senate rules and the speeches of other senators to navigate a way through and around the bureaucracy that authoritarians love to use in silencing dissent. And the MUSIC leading up to Mon's speech is so tense and fitting!

JC

Even a gun has an arc. That's the gun that Andor took from the corporate police d-bags on Morlana One. He had it with him on Aldhani. Our boy Richie asked him who he got a corporate issue gun from. "I didn't get a name" Cass says, in a line that exudes pure badassery. The gun was seen stuffed in the box along with Nemik's manifesto hidden in the hotel. When Cass and Melshi escape Narkina 5, they go back and Cass gives him the gun. Vel, intruged by a gun she's familiar with, asks who belongs to it. Our boy Melshi appears.

Michael M

"The tragic broth we've been sipping this morning has been brewing in plain sight." Andor's writing team is so good that they even nail bad writing. This is like what a high school English class student would think is profound.... exactly the type of thing a senator who hasn't achieved his position by merit would say.

Michael M

My boy Wil has survived like three different arcs where he's been waving those death flags like crazy

Myeh

I laughed out loud, when you said that you expected the next episode (10) to be calmer (10 is probably my fave Andor episode along with 8, and 10 and 12 from season 1) Seriously though great reaction an analysis as always.

AlexBoss

I understand where you're coming from and if Andor preceded Rogue One, i would agree with you that the decision was terrible. However the ending of this episodes makes sense exactly because Andor was released after Rogue one. Ending after Bix's speech would be devastating and the creator probably wanted to end this episode on a high note and on a hopeful note. So it makes sense after Andor loses the love of his life, to end the episode when you introduce his future best friend.

AlexBoss

Yeah, you have to be careful around Cassian at this stage. Mispronounce the wrong acronym to him and you'll end up with a hole in your chest

ryany

another incredible episode, but it always pissed me off that they end the arc with the introduction of the goofy robot lol. Like you had a perfect ending to probably the best streak of Star Wars ever with Bix and then you throw a scene that feels way more in keeping with more typical Disney franchise stuff in right at the last second. The kind of nitpick I only have when I love a show so much and am frustrated it's so close to perfection (Also, ISB not IBS hahaha, very understandable mistake but IBS is a very different thing)

Hugo Sinclair

The guy you saw with Vel at the base is called Melshi. Thats the weapon that Cassian gave him. Hes the guy who escaped from the prison alongside Cassian. Also the compromised agent is Lonnis agent. Lonni Jung. Thats why they called her youngs agent and how Luthen found out shes a spy.

Mate

Do you know cassian better than Bix? She said he'd talk her around and convince her.

Mathies

Welp.

Mathies

Its so insane lol. But I did watch 8 and 9 back to back.

Mate

Rogue one is pretty decent as far as modern Star Wars movies go but still feels very different than Andor and is missing the grittiness and different tone that makes Andor so special. I'm sure they will like it but I don't think I would call it a masterpiece

Max Carter

Watching 2x9 and 2x10 back to back is crazy...

Saifu

Omg I love how skeptical they are about Rogue One, it's written by Tony Gilroy. They are going to have a rude awakening when they watch the masterpiece that started it all 😭

Ridley

lul, they changed the canon to it being just her replaying this speech

Jhop

The second speech Mon is preparing to give to the galaxy ends up being this one, from Rebels, which is quite funny put up against Andor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UEmtUP1JAM

Jamie

1:13:49 "I think at least [ep 10] should be calmer."

X Yuan

“What happened yesterday on Ghorman was unprovoked genocide - yes, genocide!” was so crazy to hear on a DISNEY produced show last year.

Jamie

I was confused by the scene with Vel and the blaster, too. Though I recognized Melshi, who escaped Narkina with Cass, I didn’t know the significance of the blaster and how it had been passed from Syril to Cassian to him.

SwampFox95

I’m looking forward to the reaction to the next episode so much that it is embarrassing

Dean

Best reactors ever

BigJo H

Vel recognizes the weapon on the table on Yavin because Cassian had it with him on Aldhani. It was the weapon which Cassian took off one of the two Morlana Corporate cops who were shaking him down, way back in the first episode of the series. The man who raises his hand and claims the weapon is Melshi. He was in prison with Cassian on Narkina 5, and was the man who escaped with Cassian to the resort planet of Niamos. Cassian gave him the weapon as they parted ways. Cass had just learned about Maarva's death, and Melshi said they needed to split up to increase their chances of getting the word out about what was happening in the Imperial Prison System. I'm not surprised you didn't recognize him. It's not like he had a huge role in Season 1, and he looks quite a bit different here. In Season 1 his hair was longer and he had no facial hair. Bix...you could have just told Cassian you were staying on Yavin, and that if he wanted to be with you then he needed to be with you on Yavin. You didn't have to leave. Cassian wouldn't have run off without you. The looks on Mon's face both times that she witnesses Cassian kill were priceless. Her idealism was shattered just a little bit. Now she has to stare the necessity of killing for the Rebellion square in the face, instead of it being something abstract. Cassian saying "Welcome to the Rebellion" is a perfect response to Mon saying "I'm not sure I can do this" after she witnessed violent death for the first time (at least I assume it was the first time). You just know that Cassian has questioned whether or not he could keep going many times before this episode.

Joseph Olson

I’ll have to wait a couple days to watch this 😭 I love shows with episodes where characters of two different worlds whom we are heavily emotionally invested in meet each other. I thought the script for this episode has some nice details regarding Cassian. Pardon the formatting from the copy/paste, I’ll paste the link to the script below if it’s more legible. INT. LUTHEN’S GALLERY BACKROOM -- CORUSCANT -- NIGHT (4AM) AN ANCIENT CUDGEL. Dirty and tarnished. Waiting to be cleaned for display. HANDS reaching down to pick it up -- It’s CASSIAN holding THE CUDGEL. Hidden inside... Twisting the clasp. A shining, immaculate BESKAR BLADE. CASSIAN staring at it. The most intimate weapon possible. One purpose only. It’s just hours since he fled Ghorman. He’s washed his hands and ditched the massacre-soured coat, but there’s no quick fix for what’s roiling inside him. No masking the weariness in his eyes. Ghorman fucked him up. KLEYA They’re calling an early session at the Senate. If she speaks, we need to be ready. THERE SHE IS AT THE WORKBENCH -- a “ HOLO-PRINTER, bootlegging Senate credentials for him. They’re alone. KLEYA (CONT’D) So we’re keeping you a journalist. It’s perfect. Ronni Googe. Mid- Rim Network. You’re coming straight from the Ghorman massacre to cover the political fallout.” He puts back THE CUDGEL. KLEYA (CONT’D) There’s a Senate catering entrance we like. These credentials will work inside, but they scan for weapons at the entrance. (she carefully places a fresh credential on a cooling tray--) You’ll want to hang onto this one, it’s a Surface Pass, it’s good all season. CASSIAN I won’t be needing it. (she turns) I’m not coming back. I’m done after this. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZX-EUW-lVOqHSku0Vtcmi5JNNGzLI8Y7/view?usp=drivesdk

My Toasty Toast

Fun Fact: It was mentioned the Rebellion wanted Mon Mothma to deliver another speech, and that Gold Squadron would bring her to Yavin. That's a reference to an episode of the animated show Star Wars: Rebels (3x18).

Jordan

I love that it is on sight for EVERY Imperial for Cassian. Mon saying “he’s an ISB plant” was all he needed to hear to shoot that driver dead. He shot a woman point blank in the face. He has absolutely ZERO hesitation when it comes to killing fascists and I love that for him

Dean

I really enjoy just how in depth you go into each episode. Your analysis is always so thoughtful and so spot on. Even though I’ve seen Andor several times now you always find a way to bring in fresh insights that I didn’t quite pick up on. I’ve been a Star Wars fan my whole life, and the Ghorman massacre and Mon Mothma’s speech denouncing the Emperor is something that has been referenced in Star Wars media for decades now. I never thought I’d see it in live action at all, let alone done so incredibly well. Tony Gilroy is the best and worst thing that has ever happened to Star Wars. He made Andor such a brilliant show but it does make the rest of Star Wars pale a bit in comparison. I do think you’ll like Rogue One when you see it. It was originally written and directed by a different director named Gareth Edwards, and then Disney wasn’t happy with the finished product so they brought in Tony Gilroy to rework it. I also think you’ll like the original trilogy well enough because you know how much people like Luthen and Mon Mothma sacrificed to get the rebellion to where it ends up.

mrchill_77

Tony Gilroy was asked repeatedly about the lack of nominations during this most recent "awards season" and mostly refused to comment much, but eventually revealed that he doesn't care about his own recognition or that of well-established names like Skarsgaard or Diego Luna, but for all the lesser-known actors that could have benefitted from the publicity of a nomination. I and most others seem to believe he was almost certainly referring in particular to the women such as O'Reilly, Gough (Dedra), Dulau (Kleya) and Arjona (Bix).

X Yuan

I was thinking the same thing!

Tami

Maarva: you can’t stay, and I can’t go Bix: you can’t go, and I can’t stay :(

Joshua Something

Lastly, (again sorry for spamming the comments) I really like the K2SO scene. Its rewiring for me indicates that while the empire wants to make everything a blant deadly instrument for change the Rebellion has the ability to stand for individual expression charcter, laughter even. They were not sure it would work but it did! After Andor's heartbreak I really think it was important for him to see that the rebellion stands for building a better more compassionate world. And he is a part of that process Ps The guy is Melshi, the man Cassian escaped with from prison and the weapon was the one he took from the Corporate security Syrill was working PS2 Jesus I didn't know Vucic was such a monster, he seems like he would unleash Karadžić and Mladić again.

broken king

This was yet another masterful episode! Everything from Mon's speech to her escape to Bix choosing to leave Cassian so he stays for the Rebellion...Such an emotional rollercoaster, especially watching it back to back with the last episode as well (and the next episode LOL). Emotionally draining is an understatement 😅

Lalisa Truong

i really hope they watch rogue one

electriq

Watching 9 and 10 together is a devastating decision 😭

Milen Karabadzhakov

i actually waited untill 2 AM untill these episodes dropped and then watched all 3 in a row for 4 weeks straight.

Emiel van der Ploeg

Regarding Mon’s speech, it was amazing, no notes, and really a speech I would like for any politician to make in our world. What makes Mon’s speech on the Senate floor so special for me is its simplicity. She fights the monsters and the monstrosities they have committed by simply naming them as such. No hesitations, no nuances, no room for doubt. And I think that more than anything irks the other collaborationist senators the most, the idea that someone can have a backbone and still believe in things. That’s what career politicians fear the most in our real world.

broken king

I had very similar thoughts on Mon's driver, glad you caught it!

Brogan

Re: Dedra "her pain gives me calmness" was so much more unexpectedly, delightfully savage than "her pain makes me happy" would've been.

Chris

Welcome to 2x09.

Mike Connaghan

This episode won the Outstanding Writing for a Drama at Emmy last year, truly incredible episode. Mon's whole arc has been building towards that Senate speech, and she absolutely delivered

Raphgod7

didnt think about the rain in the beginning..the idea that the institutions that brought about fascism even have an interest in curtailing it..

LM Reactions

nikki its 2am what do you mean 5 hour shift

LM Reactions

whaaaat, that was the guy?? i thought he’s a character from rogue one because the shot panned in on him as if i should know him but there was simply no way i would recognize him.. that makes me very happy

LM Reactions

Another incredible episode, you could feel the tension but also the katharsis of emotion in Mon’s incredible speech. I love the opening shot, incredible in its beauty and symbolism. The Senate building’s reflection in the water being shuttered by the rain as the liberal delusion that institutions in themselves can do anything to curtail fascism and barbarism. Really neat. I think that Andor’s desire to leave all this behind is unlike last season not motivated just by self-preservation but also by his emotional exhaustion first and foremost. Unlike Kleya and Luthen most people can’t bear moving forward by hate and anger alone. That takes a toll so it’s understandable that he wants to retreat to life with Bix. On Kleya and Luthen, this episode continues what we have seen in the previous episodes of their underhanded tactics, necessary as they may be in some cases can’t build a movement alone. It is ironic that in the same way Luthen saves Mothma from arrest is also why Mon and other leaders of the rebellion are so distrusting of him.

broken king

You just made my 5 hour shift of unloading the truck and organising all shit a bit more enjoyable. That said, I can't see Valencia the same way since I watched this episode

sand_fl

our short live action slot is always full and backed up, but its a must watch, just maybe closer to season 2? believe me it pains us more that we’re not watching it

LM Reactions

Ive been giving shoutouts to the women of Andor throughout your reaction, and its time to give Genevieve O'Reilly her flowers. Let this sink in…she received ZERO Emmy nominations for playing Mon throughout this series and that is a CRIME 😭 Fun fact for you girls, Genevieve was originally cast to play Mon all the way back in 2005 for the last prequel film, however all her scenes ended up getting cut. When fans saw the deleted scenes she received A TON of praise, so much so that when Disney took over and started making content during this era, they brought her back to play the role. She has not only played Mon for this show, but also voiced her in animated series as well. Will forever be grateful for her portrayal of Mon. That senate speech goes down as one of the best scenes of this show, and thats saying something. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Daniel Molina

Random stuff, in no particular order: - I really want to know what 'tragic broth' tastes like. It sounds delicious. - A running joke in the fandom after this episode aired: 'Mon Mothma is so great. I wish liberal politicians who resist fascism and genocide were real.' - Love the malicious compliance from the technicians who hold off on fixing that security door they were supposed to fix until this exact day, then conveniently put the security code for the door in some office on the other side of the building. Mon has friends everywhere. - Love how they quickly indicate how Luthen knows that Bail Organa's extraction team has been compromised: Beska, the ISB agent who has infiltrated that team, is explictly identified as one of Lonni Jung's agents. A running fan theory is that Lonni intentionally assigned the most incompetent agent he had to increase Mon's chances of escape, which helps explains why said agent so completely bungles her assignment. However ruthless it was, Luthen's decision to let Kreegyr and his men die to save Lonni as his ISB mole was pretty clearly the right one. Lonni Jung continues to be the Rebel Alliance's MVP. - The man who showed up at the Rebel base on Yavin, and who was carrying a blaster Vel thought looked very familiar, was Melshi, the man who Cassian escaped Narkina V with. Vel noticed the blaster because it just happened to be the same blaster Cassian used during the Aldhani raid, and which he took from Syril on Ferrix in Season 1 Episode 3, and finally left with Melshi when they split up on Niamos to make sure the galaxy learned of what was happening at places like Narkina V. Beautiful how it all ties together.

Nubile Reptile

ikr who would do that...

HenryM

Couldn't help but notice that y'all are near the end of Andor... any chance you'll be reacting to Vince Gilligan's Pluribus soon? 😅

Tyler Horn

omg its the weekly peak

Scared Cannon

I haven't been refreshing the page; that'd be crazy...

Vidolin


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