Arcane 2x06 Reaction
Added 2024-12-18 00:14:38 +0000 UTC
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I feel bad for these girls. Their community is just a bunch of people complaining. Lol this comment section is very mainstream social media.
MJ Eid
2025-01-02 05:52:40 +0000 UTClol
MJ Eid
2025-01-02 05:50:51 +0000 UTCI loved Ishas death scene I felt it was perfectly executed was completely believable and served to advance the plot like everything in a story should do.
MJ Eid
2025-01-02 05:50:31 +0000 UTClol it must suck to be such a miserable human being.
MJ Eid
2025-01-02 05:48:36 +0000 UTCI love that y'all were curious about what Jayce saw that drives him to confront Viktor. I've watched some reactions and everyone gets soo angry at Jayce.
Jason Calloway
2024-12-29 06:27:29 +0000 UTCI did not like how sudden it was and how clear it was since the beginning but Isha's death is good to me plot wise. Jinx knew she was acting like nothing happened, like she could just pretend her life was good and not actually address what she's done. I don't think Jinx needed to suffer, but she did need to understand she has a role on Zaun's liberation due to her attack on the council and people are dying for her. She deserves peace, but it's unrealistic for her to believe it's that easy.
Anto
2024-12-26 01:26:00 +0000 UTCI think you guys are assuming being an emotional mess affects your decision making less than it actually does. Vi needs the people she loves next to her, when Jinx was missing, it was Caitlyn, but she hesitated killing Jinx, when Caitlyn was missing, it was Jinx, but she didn't even pretend to want to kill Caitlyn.
Anto
2024-12-26 01:22:28 +0000 UTCCaitlyn was never fully onboard with any geopolitical stuff, she solely wanted Jinx. She had reservations since moment 1 post episode 3 timeskip. Ambessa manipulated her into continuing to play ball out of her grudge against jinx, it makes sense IMO that VI would be able to undo that. As for isha's character, she did sorta exist just to punish jinx, but, more to serve as a parallel, which the show is obsessed with. Vander/Silco and Violet/Power and Jinx/Isha. The latter in all of these cases typically have some major part of their emotions compromised which makes them make decisions which affect the other party. Violet gained an insane amount of trauma from powder's actions, Vander and Silco had trauma and a huge rift due to the actions of silco, now Jinx gains trauma due to the actions of Isha. All of the characters taking these actions thought they were in the right, and thought they were being heroic/helpful, without taking the entire picture into account. This is what makes Isha the perfect bookend to this parallel series. Isha has been shown time and time again to throw caution to the wind and get herself personally involved, regardless of the danger at hand. She's always been "delusionally" obsessed with jinx to an unhealthy level. She threw herself off of a building to fight Rictus, she tried to fight Sevika to help Jinx fight Warwick, she gets involved in any fight Jinx has with no regard for her safety. This was established as clearly as possible over a half a dozen instances. Jinx now gets to experience what it's like to carry the bag when someone else makes idealistic decisions which leave you holding trauma. Not to say Jinx deserves punishment or anything, but I wouldn't say it's just to punish jinx, but to enrich her perspective. This enriched perspective helps her find overall peace and resolution, IMO. In summary, I really don't find this to be a cheap plot, Powder wasn't much older than Isha if older at all when Powder made her decisions which set this whole narrative in motion.
Harris
2024-12-23 01:17:00 +0000 UTCMost of the “shock value” deaths in AoT are nameless soldiers. Sasha’s death vastly influenced the plot leading to the fantastic Sasha’s father speech, Erwin’s death perfectly concluded his charater arc and Hange’s death had meaning in passing the torch to Armin as the SC’s spiritual successor. Even Floch, Magath and Keith’s deaths had significance and served a purpose. In my opinion it’s really not the same thing.
Sebastiano Barreca
2024-12-21 16:23:12 +0000 UTCExcept Isayama didn’t use a kid’s sacrificial death to tell that story. Levi lost soldiers in battle and the only sacrifices were done by Erwin and Hange and crafted in a way to perfectly conclude their characters after seasons of development: Erwin choosing humanity over his selfish dream and Hange passing the torch to Armin. Anyway, I believe LM’s gripes with this choice is that it’s a kid making a sacrifice and it’s resetting Jinx’s mental state to being depressed and suicidal.
Sebastiano Barreca
2024-12-21 15:57:30 +0000 UTCThen be fucking specific. FUCK the government, not the people. Idk if you see the Iranian censorship on Arcane, that shit was even more ridiculous. My point is those authoritarian regimes are evil af, but you can't generalize normal citizens being racist or sexist. Do I hate my Canadian government? Yes, but I can have separate POV with the government and the people.
Raphael
2024-12-20 20:11:03 +0000 UTCYou know how racist Chinese people are? Don't play that game with me lmao. Song was corny, and it didn't fit. There's asian characters in this universe, they coulda saved it for that. What I HATE, is the CCP censorship regime cutting out entire scenes of the show, because they can't stand 2 girls kissing, but they have the nerve to slide their shit. Again, fuck them.
SoClose
2024-12-20 12:24:30 +0000 UTCWhat's wrong with providing something to their Chinese audience? It seems borderline racist that you just don't like the sound of the Chinese language. I thought it was great and the lyrics translate really appropriately to the situation as well and I bet you didn't know that because you just instantly dismissed it.
Camzeee
2024-12-19 23:38:49 +0000 UTCI guess call me crazy a second time. But why is jinx like off limits to having bad things happen to her? She lost vander and her friends because of a mistake she made. Don’t really blame her for that but vi lost those people as well. Either way that stinks for sure. Then what, she killed silco. He didn’t die falling from a high building, or get shot by Caitlyn or killed by Vi’s power glove, she shot him to protect her sister. That sucks for her as a character to do that, but the show didn’t rip something away from her or something. She did that. I guess I’m just not seeing where she is getting everyone taken away from her. Is Vi not going through a similar set of losses, same with Caitlyn, same with ekko. To me it seems the loss is fairly spread around. This is a dark show. Everyone is losing, even when it seems like they have won. And again, may be I’m just crazy or heartless or something. But that’s just the way I looks at it.
alex otis
2024-12-19 04:35:09 +0000 UTCI guess call me crazy. But I’m fine with being manipulated. This is a story. The second we saw iisha we knew what was going to happen. And it was just all about can she make an impact on our characters and the the sTory before hand. And the answer to that is a resounding yes. Was manipulated into feeling these feelings of sadness for her loss. Absolutely. That’s story telling. May be I’m heartless or something, I don’t know, but a kid dying in a tv show is a great way for me to feel emotions. I mean hell, the first 20 minutes of last of us is just a big manipulation, and it’s fantastic story telling for Joel going forward. So I mean if this little amazing super hero of a girl needs to sacrifice herself to save her big sister and her new family, then that’s what needs to happen. And the song was outstanding. And I saw someone else mention it, but the fact it was in a language I didn’t understand really made me feel like iisha in that moment considering she was mute. It was fantastic. This show is pretty amazing.
alex otis
2024-12-19 04:24:25 +0000 UTCYeah I just never looked at this show as a show about zaun v piltover. That’s just the setting for a story about two sisters, family and love. I don’t think this show had to much interest in diving into what could be a very difficult topic of class and all that. They set up just enough to create a good conflict that would thrust our characters into different directions. So for me I never expected anything out of the zaun v piltover of it all.
alex otis
2024-12-19 04:12:23 +0000 UTCIt's not just a Riot thing, the problem is way bigger than them. If you think this discourse is big, just wait a couple of months until The last of Us season 2. The amount of hate gonna be fucking insane. There's always uphill battle for LGBTQ representation in all media. Also, Riot gonna make more shows, just don't support them.
Raphael
2024-12-19 03:34:15 +0000 UTCAlso the idea that ishas death makes sense because it was foreshadowed is insane because then I can write any story with any foreshadowing and expect people to be fine just because I told the audience what to expect???? You can still write poorly with foreshadowing
Joshua Partridge
2024-12-19 03:29:29 +0000 UTCSuch a laughable cope. Then why didn’t they use a Latin ballad? Or Icelandic? You know why…it had to be Chinese precisely to pander to that demographic. The song was corny, it felt forced. Because it was. Nobody’s complaining about the French track in ep 7 with Jinx and Ekko dancing, because it’s actually good and was an appropriate pick. And the end of the day Riot Games had to embarrass themselves, bend over, and censor critical scenes of the show all to please these homophobic pieces of trash. That’s what happened. Fuck them, and fuck anyone making excuses for them.
SoClose
2024-12-19 00:40:21 +0000 UTCYou’re right it doesn’t mean that they are in denial and copium, but it does mean that’s how it reads to me
Joshua Partridge
2024-12-18 23:11:36 +0000 UTCYou're welcome to feel it is stupid, but interpreting it differently doesn't mean anyone is in denial or holding on to copium. Hell, the girls compared it to AoT in their review, and I always found the way AoT handled character deaths to largely feel unnecessary or that they were there for shock value or to just make a character suffer. Other people feel differently and find meaning in those moments, and that's fine. I think a lot of the discussion in the comments has explained different feelings about all this rather well.
cosmotron
2024-12-18 22:53:22 +0000 UTCThis is how I feel about it. I do think that Isha should have maybe had more interactions with other people to feel like more of a full character in her own right, but from a narrative perspective this is exactly why she is here. And when I saw her I knew that was likely the story that would happen, but my predicting it didn't feel like a bad thing. It felt like I was correctly reading the narrative structures. I do understand people feeling differently, but this is where I'm at with it.
cosmotron
2024-12-18 22:47:38 +0000 UTCCompletely agree with you. Caitlyn went through a very radical character arc with episodes 3 through 6 that could have used a lot more scenes and interaction. The same goes for Vi. She's ready to kill her sister, then complete rejection of her to tolerance, then acceptance to rebuilding the family bond within the same 4 episodes. There's just too much happening in too little time. The first act could have been another 30 minutes longer. The second act could have used another full hour to keep the conflict between Piltover and Zaun thematically centered, while Ambessa vs. Black Rose and Victor's cult arc also played out.
Robert H.
2024-12-18 20:22:59 +0000 UTCI do have many issues with Isha's death and honestly character overall. This is one of the main issues I had with this season but there was more. The thing that angered me about her death was what you ladies had mentioned was that it just felt like another way to punish Jinx, it honestly felt egregious to me at this point that Jinx had to lose yet ANOTHER person she was close to and I honestly couldn't figure out the reason why. It made her entire character to me seem like a cheap ploy to pull on our heartstrings but in the end I didn't really get sad at her death, I was just angry. Caitlyn switching as fast as she did was also heavily rushed for me because with as extreme as she went with turning Zaun into a police state, I guess I needed something more for her to snap back instead of just Vi's half alive adoptive father being the monster she was hunting. Like if she had a Jayce moment in 1x08 when he killed a kid and was horrified, THAT would have made sense to me, this however did not. Can't wait for next episodes reaction though, episode 7 is one of my favorite episodes in this season and the only episode in Act 3 I actually liked.
Nyeisha Melvina Clark
2024-12-18 19:48:09 +0000 UTCThanks, I hate it.
SwampFox95
2024-12-18 17:29:06 +0000 UTCI appreciated the writing because it pushes jinx in a new direction. Jinx was denying the person she became all throughout her life to run away and play house which would not have been a satisfying end for me. Jinx needs to face her past and deal with it. Isha recreating what powder did in s1ep3 forces jinx to confront it all, for better or worse. Jinx gets to relive s1ep3 from vi's perspective, being the older sister who is trying to stop her overzelous little sister. now all that said... its totally reasonable to be pissed at the creators for using isha's death but we have known they are some ruthless bastards for some time now XD
Joshua Miller
2024-12-18 17:13:52 +0000 UTCI also didn't like this decision with the girl, and it's funny that you mentioned AOT because what they did to Jinks here is the same thing that Isayama does to Levi, he keeps killing everyone he loves and cares about from the beginning to the end of the anime. Repeating the same thing to the point of becoming gratuitous torture with the character... Anyway, I'm looking forward to the reaction of the next episode, my favorite of the season.
Wallas
2024-12-18 14:40:32 +0000 UTC@jweher I mean 1x09. After Jayce's council speech and their acquiescence, I saw much of that angle tied up.
Isaac
2024-12-18 14:27:43 +0000 UTC@jweher I completely agree with you. I had already said on the Discord server a couple weeks ago that I felt zero emotion for Isha because she struck me from the beginning as written as a tool to die and cause reactions in Jinx. If she had shown a bit more interaction with others, had more personality, it might have been different, but she seemed too on the nose to me.
Robert H.
2024-12-18 13:25:27 +0000 UTCCait was already turning by Ep4 even. So there is a whole 'dictator Cait' arc that they tried to sum up in a 30s montage at the start of Ep4 before the Maddie + Cait shock reveal which just didn't really work. Even with Maddie she was already saying she doesn't like where this is going. And then argues with Ambessa in the next scene about peace being the justification for violence. We just skipped past the part where Cait is on board with Ambessa and does some morally questionable things which she then regrets. This middle section here is where I think they should have had an extra act of Cait does bad things, Cait realizes she's in over her head, Cait runs into Vi and realizes the error of her ways.
Camzeee
2024-12-18 12:18:58 +0000 UTCThis story was never about pullover vs zaun though. It was about two sisters and love, and forgiveness. The zaun vs piltover conflict is just used as another way to enforce this message about cycles. And you not developing feelings toward isha is definitely not the writers fault. They made her a very good character imo without even speaking.
Cole
2024-12-18 10:54:55 +0000 UTCAgree, it's like when I watch AOT finale, do I need to understand the language of a certain song in order to appreciate an emotional scene? No, I don't. That guy hates a scene because the song playing somehow is a reflection of Riot being censored. Also, a longer intimate scene doesn't necessarily mean it will deliver better emotion and pacing. The last of us Ep3 was one of the most beautiful gay romance on TV and it has less intimate scene than we got in Arcane. Btw that episode got absolutely view bombed on IMDB.
Raphael
2024-12-18 10:48:27 +0000 UTCThe plan was to lockdown Ambessa, stop Singed and free Warwick. They managed all of that. Was it necessary for Vi to be captured? Not particularly but she probably volunteered to get back at Ambessa and stop her from being involved.
Camzeee
2024-12-18 10:40:03 +0000 UTCWait do you mean 2x09? Because 1x09 was the catalyst for further escalation, it definitely did not feel like putting a bow on anything.
jweher
2024-12-18 09:27:42 +0000 UTCI'm curious about something. I do hear from a number of people who wanted more Piltover/Zaun, but I always felt like S1E9 put a good bow on it. What were you looking for?
Isaac
2024-12-18 09:24:09 +0000 UTCThe only expectations i formed for this season during the hiatus were that we’d focus on the Piltover Vs Zaun story the most, which is just what they set up in S1, i was pretty much openminded about anything else they’d give us. I wasn’t formulating specific arcs/directions for characters in my mind and getting disappointed by the reality. I really was just dissatisfied with what they gave us and that made me think of how else they could’ve written it. Jinx is my absolute favorite in the show, and I still felt zero connection to Isha, much as i tried. The parallels felt forced to me too. But yeah lol we just do not see eye to eye on this season, which is fine!
jweher
2024-12-18 09:06:45 +0000 UTCI thought the voices died when she killed Silco because it cemented her identity as Jinx. Her identity issues exacerbated her mental instability. Her blowing up the council while we hear Silco’s voice say “we’ll show them, we will show them all” had a vengeful feel, so i think it’d have been better if she went along with becoming a “symbol of zaun” for him (out of guilt or vengeance, whatever the writers wanted). It’d be much more effective and natural than creating Isha and having her get arrested to force Jinx’s hand into participating.
jweher
2024-12-18 08:47:12 +0000 UTCWe always end up clashing in these comments, so I'll give it a rest this time lol. I do think that it's clear you wanted different things from the story direction, but the writing behind it is still solid. No writer can force you to see things from their perspective
Isaac
2024-12-18 08:35:07 +0000 UTCI could not disagree more. Isha's song is in a language most of the audience don't understand and since Isha is mute, there's a beauty in the fact we don't understand the words. I think it's fantastic that we get songs in different languages.
Camzeee
2024-12-18 08:32:16 +0000 UTCI agree with you. Isha was not needed. Silcos death was right there, Jinx does not need more traumatic events she already has more then enough to work with her character. I was extremely confused by how stable Jinx suddenly was, she does not really here voices anymore? I just feel a dissconection to her character from the first season. It feels like they go in circles with her arc.
Namikaza
2024-12-18 08:30:26 +0000 UTCI will say Isha's death was foreshadowed pretty much since we've known her. Getting in between vi and jinx and jumping on the Noxian in ep 4. It's fucking tragic but its clearly a play on Powder in ep 3 of the first season. Jinx and Isha's relationship wasn't healthy. Its like you guys mentioned in Season 1 regarding SIlco and Jinx's relationship. I get the frustration but in my opinion its expertly done.
Gknow G
2024-12-18 08:25:18 +0000 UTCI think Isha's character is ONLY being evaluated on how she affected Jinx, which leads to her end appearing to be her only purpose. Isha gives us a window on how someone could be positively impacted by Jinx, and there's nothing cheap about that. More importantly, Isha's relationship with Jinx is the bridge that mends Vi & Jinx. When you consider that Jinx & Vi were ready to kill one another, it's too significant to ignore. The end of a character's story being telegraphed does not invalidate the other parts of it. There's plenty that can be said/examined concerning Isha across the FIVE episodes she was in.
Isaac
2024-12-18 08:22:28 +0000 UTCI don't think there's much to disagree with as far as Caitlyn's involvement, but again, I think that barehanded, cold-blooded murder is a different beast.
Isaac
2024-12-18 08:12:34 +0000 UTCCait’s turn this episode was also just ridiculous to me. I hate how “subtle” her shift was in earlier episodes, it made this sudden turn to redemption feel unearned. I love this show, despite how much i keep complaining about it. I just think it needed way more time and there were a bunch of choices made that were a mistake.
jweher
2024-12-18 07:55:24 +0000 UTCI mean, yeah? Mylo and Claggor were also made to just die, just because their roles are comparable doesn’t mean they’re both used as effectively.
jweher
2024-12-18 07:32:54 +0000 UTCIsha’s ridiculous useless death just reaffirms my belief that she was not needed as a character. The next logical step for Jinx’s character after 1x09 is for her to get worse. They rushed through that part in act 1 of s2, then decided to give her something to live for??? Then made her suicidal again??? Just such a weird way to structure her arc. Before the season came out, a tweet about isha went viral which said “have you ever seen a character so obviously created just to die” and that’s what always bugged me about her. She was never truly a character, just a tool to emotionally manipulate the audience. She’s got nothing outside of Jinx. She loves Jinx, she looks up to Jinx, she dies for Jinx. There are no other facets to her character.
jweher
2024-12-18 06:58:56 +0000 UTCWho's playing dumb? I agree you the gay censorship was wrong and fucked up. There's a longer version of the intimate scenes you talked about left on the cutting room floor, but it didn't get all cut out tho. We can assume there's a mandate all we want, but Riot ain't gonna ever admit it. Dumb people were losing their shits over Ciri being the protagonist in Witcher 4 trailer. This is the world we live in, no matter you live in US, China or whatever. There's always resistance to progress and basic human decency.
Raphael
2024-12-18 06:58:04 +0000 UTCI have a read about Isha that most people may not share, but I'll be annoying and post it anyway. I also know that stories are written by authors, and while I may resonate with a child taking extreme measures to face danger, I respect that Lola and Milena have opposite takes. I see Isha as Jinx's true believer. She's shown it by being her copycat when Jinx wouldn't fight against an oppressive regime, by showing up at the rally when Jinx wouldn't. Like Sevika, Isha firmly believes in the possibility of a better home through action. Last time Jinx was in trouble, Isha was completely powerless and forced to flee. I don't think there was any way Isha was doing anything else but saving Jinx here. To me, writing a way to forcibly get her to safety would have felt like robbing her of her incredible willpower. Isha is the unyielding hope and conviction to reach for a better tomorrow. She's not Powder, she's Ekko. Lastly, I love that while Ambessa is the one chattering about strength, it is Isha who embodies all four principles in the end.
Berezant
2024-12-18 06:50:09 +0000 UTCTencent owns Riot, Arcane is huge in China. there is a mandate. Just like there was a mandate to take all the gay shit out of the show for the Chinese demographic. Keep playing dumb tho.
SoClose
2024-12-18 06:09:40 +0000 UTCI think the comments are misunderstanding what you're saying, which is that this is really rough to watch and a huge tragedy and NOT that its bad writing. That being said, I wanna preface the rest of this comment by saying overall your feelings are what matter most and I understand the confusion over Isha's death. I want to try to offer my perspective: that Isha was the Powder to Jinx the way she was to Vi. The most important part of the Jinx/Vi story is the events of S1E3. Vi leaving Powder behind, Powder not understanding, and the ensuing chaos. Jinx DOES understand why Vi didn't come back for her (she got to explain that she was taken by Marcus), but Jinx NEVER understood why Vi left her at home in the first place. This is why. Vi was terrified of losing Powder, and couldn't bring her into the fight. Jinx, living with the pain of that decision, has a completely opposite dynamic with Isha: she essentially lets Isha do whatever she wants. Lets her see the violence, lets her join her on missions (even since S2E3), all because she tries to be the opposite 'big sister' that Vi was. And now, the end of this episode shows her WHY Vi did what she did, which has always been the biggest roadblock in their relationship. Vi left her behind because she was afraid of losing her. Jinx refused to leave Isha behind, and so, lost her, which might finally help her understand her sister. Props if you read the whole comment as I got kinda carried away, but I love this episode and think Isha's character was very meaningful and very important.
Z3P
2024-12-18 05:33:43 +0000 UTCI think Eason Chan made a Chinese theme song for Arcane season 1, so Riot wanna work with him again. I don't know if there's a mandate to slide "some Chinese shit" in season 2. The funny thing is Eason is completely fluent in English. They could totally record two versions of the same song and probably resonates with more audiences because the meaning of song is actually relevant to the scene like those previous songs (Sucker, Hellfire, To Ashes and Blood etc.)
Raphael
2024-12-18 04:41:21 +0000 UTCIsha is more of a character than Mylo and Clagger ever were. Would you not say they were created simply just to die?
James Long
2024-12-18 03:56:22 +0000 UTCIt is kinda manipulative and I knew exactly what Isha's part would be the moment she bumped into Jinx. So I never really got that attached to her "character". And so yeah, this didn't affect me at all, because it was so obvious. It's really a shame because I think the Arcane-writers don't need such cheap tricks in their story. Season 1 proved they can do it right. So this was a bit disappointing for me.
Namikaza
2024-12-18 03:55:00 +0000 UTCThat Chinese song wasn't bad, it was just so random and out of place. It killed the scene for me. But Tencent owns Riot Games, so they gotta slide some Chinese shit in there. They get to force their crap on us, but they cut out all intimate scenes between Vi and Cait because their culture is homophobic. LOL
SoClose
2024-12-18 03:44:43 +0000 UTCI completely understand why the girls and other people felt upset and angry Isha's death. I also had the same feeling like what was the fucking point, it can't be just for nothing in regards to Jinx's character arc. I had a bit different experience watching the final scene and was bawling my eyes out. They actually released Isha's Song like 10 days before Act 2, and the song heavily implied something bad gonna happen to either Isha or Jinx, so as soon as the music started and Isha started running in the final scene I just lost it lol.
Raphael
2024-12-18 03:37:34 +0000 UTCThe chaos of the underground following Silco's death is what brings Isha to Jinx. So in a sense, Jinx's actions bring Isha to her. And then that puts Jinx in the parent/big sister role, sort of like Vi or Silco was to her. This is echoing themes of Season 1 where it was very much parent and child. Vander and Vi, Silco and Jinx.
James Long
2024-12-18 03:37:19 +0000 UTCIt makes perfect sense, but it's just cruel :((
ashton
2024-12-18 03:23:13 +0000 UTCidk but personally every "Isha's death wasn't completely stupid" argument reads to me like denial and copium
Joshua Partridge
2024-12-18 03:01:29 +0000 UTClost, game of thrones, walking dead, arcane...
Joshua Partridge
2024-12-18 02:59:11 +0000 UTCok first of all Caitlyn had no idea Singed was even about to go back when they made this plan Singed just got back from meeting Viktor so how would Cait even know they were about to seperate 2nd Cait has commited multiple in our world anyway "warcrimes" and has done months of "peacekeeping operations" there is no way she believes her hands are clean and 3rd yes I agree a part of the plan went tits up but how did Cait plan on moving Warwick? did she expect the monster to just follow her? he wasn't even responding to her when she was pushing on him I guess my problem is there seems to be a lot of holes in this plan even the idea that Vi would beat Ambessa was quite a gamble if Ambessa had noticed the net missing sooner the entire plan was toast and the time between Vi and Ambessa arriving were not that far apart so if it was a scramble to get Warwick away why were we just standing around when Vi got back?
Daiga54
2024-12-18 02:41:48 +0000 UTCThe entire concept of a child randomly showing up and becoming an integral part of the show was never something that I was a fan of to begin with. It felt like a cheap & cliched way to give Jinx character development.
Scott
2024-12-18 02:28:45 +0000 UTCBut that's the point tho, Cait was blinded by her vengeance and Ambessa took advantage of that. I wish they did a bit more in the beginning of Ep4 to show Cait's blind drive to catch Jinx instead of a quick music montage
Raphael
2024-12-18 02:26:29 +0000 UTCIt seems like Ambessa would have followed Singed after dealing with Vi. If there was no Vi capture, she would have just gone with Singed from the jump. So, Caitlyn wanted a way to neutralize her. On the other point, we've seen Caitlyn commit 0 killings at this point. Not saying that she isn't capable, but I doubt barehanded murder is her instinct. She uses rifles. The group was recovering from their encounter with Rictus. Caitlyn barely standing, the others making the Christmas photo with Vander. The timing is right for Singed to barely escape with his life, considering the timeline
Isaac
2024-12-18 02:02:54 +0000 UTCI'm not feeling Cait. She was right with Ambessa jailing and beating up the zaunites
PamRenea
2024-12-18 02:02:08 +0000 UTCAlso, meaning of Isha's song was so beautiful. It's like Isha wants Jinx to keep going, keep fighting despite of all the tears, trauma and sadness in her life. Stop worrying about her and living a carefree life like a soaring bird in the sky. That's the way she wants for her.
Raphael
2024-12-18 01:57:05 +0000 UTCI do enjoy Georgia :)
Isaac
2024-12-18 01:54:11 +0000 UTCThere's a great video on why Isha did what she did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJK4lovffog
Hollow
2024-12-18 01:46:23 +0000 UTCthen why did Vi need to be put in the middle of the Noxian encampment couldn't they have easily done that without that part of the plan? it didn't seem like Ambessa was gonna go with them and if that was a the plan why didn't Cait just kill him she seemed ready to in episode 5
Daiga54
2024-12-18 01:44:05 +0000 UTCI sort of agree that I didn't really like Isha's death because it piles misery seemingly unnecessarily. But I think it sort of makes sense for Jinx's arc when seen in its entirety. Jinx has caused a lot of destruction, and Isha was a great way for her to reconnect with her humanity but not all of it. She was never going to have a full redemption arc. That's just not her story. Isha also made a conscious choice here. I know she's a child but she actively chose to sacrifice herself for Jinx and the others.
Camzeee
2024-12-18 01:39:10 +0000 UTCThe idea was to get rid of Singed, who can track Vander, and escape. What's not sitting right with you?
Isaac
2024-12-18 01:38:54 +0000 UTCok can somebody explain to me cause I feel like this isn't talked about much and it still confuses me what in the world was Cait and Vi's plan cause I can't make any sense of what they were trying to accomplish cause as far as I can tell it did nothing even though a part of it went seemingly went well I feel like these characters have been presented to be smarter then that but maybe I am just too dumb to understand
Daiga54
2024-12-18 01:30:25 +0000 UTCI couldn't agree more. A lot of people overlook Isha's effect on Vi
Isaac
2024-12-18 01:26:12 +0000 UTCAlthough Isha's death is deepy painful for Jinx, her presence is what made a lot of her character development in arc 2 possible. I saw her death as kind of a final "payment" or consequence to what Jinx did, I mean the way Isha was introduced to her is when she killed 3 people and put the gun to her head. She was clearly inspired by the violence and we get reminded by the show one of the central lesson of a lot of recent fiction : keep the kids out of the forest.
Mathias Lorétan
2024-12-18 01:25:55 +0000 UTCThis is my take on Isha’s death The show is very much anti war. The needless death of a child shows that more than anything else. If it was any other character sacrificing themselves it would not have had the same meaning or purpose on what the show is trying to say. The fact that isha was more than happy to do it is one of the saddest things. And I think her characters purpose was to show Jinx how hard it was for Vi to be the big sister in this environment, and for Vi to see Jinx isn’t a complete monster and is actually kinda the opposite.
Cole
2024-12-18 00:50:02 +0000 UTCYou're early! Amazing. I can't wait to dig in. Also thanks to TeaDrinker for sharing the survey results. Super cool stuff.
Camzeee
2024-12-18 00:41:25 +0000 UTCI personally hated Isha's death, what's the point of putting a child in Jinx's life only to later become another important person that she loses? I wonder how much this girl still has to suffer in this life, if she wanted to throw a bomb and end the whole world I would be on her side
ashton
2024-12-18 00:32:45 +0000 UTCHello Arcane fans, thanks to everyone who responded to the survey. There were a total of 113 responses before I closed the survey, which is an increase of 40 responses compared to last year! I've made extra categories based on the results that were not on the survey, such as Overall Channel Favourite Shows, Cult Following Shows etc. as I needed the survey results to make those categories. The Overall Channel Favourite Shows have been decided upon by considering which shows were watched the most, which reactions were watched the most, and which shows were rated highest by you guys. Notes on how I calculated this and anything else are at the bottom of this post. The full report can be seen here https://freeonlinesurveys.com/r/kercQLKX . If you want to download the raw data to see more correlative trends, it's on the Discord. I'll get into the show related results first before moving onto the channel and viewer related results. Two shows next to each other with a '~' symbol inbetween indicate an absolute tie based on percentage. Remember that you can read the full report to see the results for any show you rated. ----- SHOW RESULTS ----- Overall Channel Favourite: #1. Attack On Titan (#2 Most Watched Show, #1 Most Watched Reaction, #3 Highest Rated Show) ~ Breaking Bad (#1 Most Watched Show, #3 Most Watched Reaction, #2 Highest Rated Show) #2. Vinland Saga (#5 Most Watched Show, #3 Most Watched Reaction, #3 Highest Rated Show) #3. Frieren: Beyond Journey's End (#5 Most Watched Reaction, #1 Highest Rated Show) Most Watched Shows: #1. Breaking Bad (83%)[87 Responses] #2. Attack On Titan (78%)[82 Respones] #3. Death Note (75%)[79 Responses] #4. Arcane (72%)[76 Responses] #5. Vinland Saga (70%)[74 Responses] Most Watched Reactions: #1. Attack On Titan (77%)[76 Responses] #2. Hunter x Hunter (71%)[70 Respones] #3. Vinland Saga (70%)[69 Responses] ~ Breaking Bad (70%)[69 Responses] #4. Arcane (65%)[64 Responses] #5. Frieren: Beyond Journey's End (62%)[61 Responses] Highest Rated Shows: #1. Frieren: Beyond Journey's End (9.24)[62 Responses] #2. Breaking Bad (9.22)[72 Responses] #3. Attack On Titan (9.18)[72 Responses] ~ Vinland Saga (9.18)[67 Responses] #4. Better Call Saul (9.12)[58 Responses] #5. The Sopranos (9.08)[50 Responses] #6. Avatar: The Last Airbender (9.05)[60 Responses] #7. The Wire (8.98)[44 Responses] #8. Mr. Robot (8.68)[37 Responses] #9. Band Of Brothers (8.87)[31 Responses] ~ Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood (8.67)[60 Responses] #10. Mob Psycho 100 (8.66)[50 Responses] Highest Rated Shows Started In 2024: #1. Frieren: Beyond Journey's End (9.24)[62 Responses] #2. The Sopranos (9.08)[50 Responses] #3. Black Sails (8.53)[30 Responses] #4. Haikyuu!! (8.49)[55 Responses] #5. Severance (8.44)[48 Responses] Cult Following Shows (ie. Low Popularity vs. Highly Rated): #1. The Expanse (8.42)[26% Watched] #2. Black Sails (8.53)[30% Watched] #3. Band Of Brothers (8.87)[36% Watched] #4. Mr. Robot (8.68)[42% Watched] #5. The Wire (8.98)[44% Watched] Least Popular Show: - The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power (4.93 Rating)[23% Show Watched, 15% Reaction Watched] Average Show Medium Stats: - Anime: 60.8% Show Watched, 58.9% Reaction Watched, 8.40 Show Rating - Live Action/Animated: 45.1% Show Watched, 39.3% Reaction Watched, 7.77 Show Rating ----- CHANNEL/VIEWER RESULTS ----- Thanks to those of you who went the extra mile to tell us about yourself and how you engage with the channel. As such, the data shows that if you are a Patron of LM Reactions, you are: - 62% likely to have been watching since 2021 or earlier. - 73% likely to watch the girls' full reactions - 65% likely to be currently watching 2-3 of their shows' reactions - 33% likely to prefer the girls watch a completed series, and 65% likely to enjoy both completed series and on-going series equally - 58% likely to engage with others in the comments - 85% likely to identify as male - Most likely to be 28 years old or thereabouts (our youngest Patron is 19, our oldest is 61!) - 42% likely to be from North America, and 32% likely to be from Europe - 84% likely to identify as straight - 61% likely to enjoy Live Action/Western Animations and Anime equally - 69% likely to regularly play video games - 52% likely to be speaking English as your second language - 51% likely to speak two languages fluently, and 15% likely to speak three or more fluently - 48% likely to prefer Cats, and 30% likely to adore both Cats and Dogs equally - 78% likely to believe that a better tomorrow is, unfortunately, worth fighting for and, the one you've all been waiting for - 55% likely to believe that Milena would beat Lola in a fight, assuming that there are no weapons and height/weight do not factor in. Regarding the quality of the channel itself: - The technical quality of the videos (ie. sound quality, colour balance) has a weighted average of 8.09 from a total of 90 Responses. 62 of those responses gave it an 8 or a 8. Finally, we had a comments box open for people to make suggestions for the girls on what could be done to improve the channel. Out of 34 responses, the most frequent comments were: - Suggesting that the channel is fine the way it is, or that the possible improvements are negligible against the already high quality of the channel [12 responses] - Suggesting that the girls hire an editor and/or a channel moderator for communication/organisation [6 responses] - Suggest that the girls continue to react to movies [4 responses] [Regarding the list calculation, for Overall Channel Favourite Show I allocated points based on the rankings for which shows were watched the most, which reactions were watched the most, and which shows were rated highest by you guys. In other words, if a show was the #1 in a category it was awarded 5 points, if it was #2 it was awarded 4 points etc. As such, Attack On Titan and Breaking Bad were tied with each show holding 12 points. Cult Following Shows were determined by shows that had a Watched Percentage of <50%, and a Show Rating of 8.00+. I then divided the Show Rating by its respective Watched Percentage as a means of getting a balanced average] ----- Well, that's pretty much it for this year. I want to thank you all for participating in this survey, and of course the girls for this channel and all that they've done for me this year. I've unfortunately had to put my own channel on hold for the foreseeable future as I have not been doing well and need to put my health first, but nonetheless I want to once again thank the girls for being so kind as to support me with setting up my channel and allowing me to promote it here. Some of you might remember that I announced back in April how I met my partner through the channel's Discord; We got engaged last November, and could not have met were it not for this channel, so once more girls, thank you thank you thank you. Between helping me meet the love of my life, helping me start my own reaction channel, and most importantly watching The Sopranos, you really made this my year :)
TeaDrinker3000
2024-12-18 00:27:22 +0000 UTCSame here I’m very interested to see what they think, I personally didn’t like ishas death but yeah…
Jay
2024-12-18 00:24:57 +0000 UTComg, the notification jumpscared me
Arthur Haguehara
2024-12-18 00:24:15 +0000 UTCVery interested to see what you have to say about the choices they made here.
Wallas
2024-12-18 00:21:08 +0000 UTCoh boy... emotional trauma here we go
sand_fl
2024-12-18 00:16:32 +0000 UTCruh roh
Darrach
2024-12-18 00:16:26 +0000 UTC
