Black Sails 3x04 Reaction
Added 2024-03-08 01:52:07 +0000 UTC
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My top 3 favorite shows all starts with B Breaking Bad/Better Call Soul and Black Sails
Kārlis Jandāls
2024-03-10 06:57:38 +0000 UTCits definitely on our list for shows that we want to react to but after invincible we’re close to june where 3 shows we’re watching are coming out, so we have no idea how to schedule all that, so i dont think andor is gonna be after invincible but we want to get to it
LM Reactions
2024-03-09 14:34:41 +0000 UTCMany people in the comments of that video were saddened to hear they had no plans to watch it and made sure to tell them they would be making a mistake, haha. I also remember this, so I am glad to see that they changed their minds :D
rerecros
2024-03-08 22:38:12 +0000 UTCFirstly, almost choked when I saw you started reacting to Black Sails and I remember you both said a few years ago, more likely that not you’d ever watch this show so was a pleasant surprise to see this come to fruition. Just watched 2x03 and couldn’t wait for the new YouTube uploads gawdammit lol. Had to sub to your Patreon again to catch up, your post reaction discussions and how you’re fully invested into the characters and story are so good, looking forward to more Fam :).
BP__15
2024-03-08 10:40:03 +0000 UTCMax just barely edges out Madi for me I think, but it’s very close. She’s really great.
cosmotron
2024-03-08 09:52:09 +0000 UTCSorry to bother you guys just wondering is Andor a possibility still after you watch Invincible?
Jesse S
2024-03-08 06:44:29 +0000 UTCYou ladies have just been introduced to my 3rd favorite character and my absolute favorite female character. Madi is here!!!!!
Nyeisha Melvina Clark
2024-03-08 06:35:06 +0000 UTCGreat video, as usual! I really like your scene by scene analysis, since it can be easy to just focus on a few key moments when doing a standard review after a first watch.
cosmotron
2024-03-08 06:33:07 +0000 UTCAnd historically Benjamin Hornigold also really did become a pirate hunter after his own prolific pirate career. Lots of neat true to life details like that.
cosmotron
2024-03-08 05:32:28 +0000 UTCTruly a queen
cosmotron
2024-03-08 05:31:11 +0000 UTCLola's list of top shows is exactly my list, even ranking wise. That's cool! I haven't seen Succession or West Wing yet though.
ODIS
2024-03-08 05:20:19 +0000 UTCI’m sure this has been said before, but regarding what’s historically accurate and what’s fictional - Black Sails is a prequel to the classic book Treasure Island. I’m not going to mention which characters are in the book/the movies, but this is basically a prequel to that story with the characters involved. So anything surrounding Flint is fictional, but most of everything that’s occurring outside of Flint’s storyline is historically accurate, with a couple deviations. The Maroons, and their Queen, are based on the very real First Maroon Revolution, led by Queen Nani, from the 1720s - 1730s. It’s an overlooked period of history, but it led to the liberation of Haiti as an independent nation in the 1790s, becoming the first free black republic in the world, and the second independent nation in the west after the U.S. Edit: i hadn’t finished the discussion part of the reaction until today, guess they already knew about it being a prequel
My Toasty Toast
2024-03-08 04:51:06 +0000 UTCit was king banana's command, i have no say in this.
Salvatore
2024-03-08 04:24:21 +0000 UTCNow that's a suspicious username lmao
HenryM
2024-03-08 03:53:29 +0000 UTCFYI as a history nerd Britain wasn’t really an empire at this point in the 17 hundreds as it would become in the 19 century when it came to own 1/4 of the world. (literally) By this point Spain was extremely powerful and Britain had the 13 colonies and a few outposts in Asia. Not really the giant it would become later. They were also in competition with other European states that were fighting for power in Europe against one another.
Melkor
2024-03-08 03:41:53 +0000 UTChistorical charles vane actually did use a fireship to break woodes rogers’s blockade and escape nassau. obviously the show takes its creative liberties with historical pirates but its cool when theyre able to recreate a real event like that
Sebastian
2024-03-08 03:31:50 +0000 UTC“The one who looks like Ozai” 🤣 His name is Joji
Wanda Did Nothing Wrong
2024-03-08 02:53:49 +0000 UTCFlint’s conflict about the pardons makes a lot of sense. Back when he was a part of it, it was with the idea that he would have a key hand in seeing who was made governor. Originally he wanted it to be Thomas: with Thomas in charge, even with them under colonial rule, there was so much they could have accomplished and done without England being able to object. Then, when he and Miranda approached Ashe again, it was also in the hope that he would be a key part of it, able to help shape who would be left in charge to oversee Nassau. In the post for the previous episode someone mentioned how interesting it is that Rogers' desire to use the pardons comes fro a very different place than it did for Thomas or Flint. But the pardons happening is still a fundamental thing that they wanted, and if it’s happening now…how can Flint be opposed to it and still feel righteous in his anger? It’s hard to hold onto that when he’s sinking into his grief, drowning under the weight of playing this villainous role. I also like how his own experience as a leader lets him understand what The Maroon Queen is thinking, and why it means she won’t let them live. “She simply cannot allow it.” The show also makes the audience very much understand her line of thinking. Even if we want her to agree with Madi, we cannot blame the Maroon Queen for the choices she is making. “Every day we avoid colliding into their world is a day children are born here, is a day families exist here. I’m in no hurry to see that end. Nor should you be.” Like…that’s an extremely fair point. Even if Madi is also correct in pointing out that they don’t live as separately from them as it seems, and that they rely on the things that they get from them. This whole scene also builds to the big reveal: that Mr. Scott is Madi’s father, The Maroon Queen’s husband. That he has been secretly doing this THE ENTIRE TIME. I wonder if Lola and Milena will be able to guess it before it’s actually revealed, because the evidence is definitely all there, and much more noticeable when you do know the truth. And while it may not have been something baked into the conception of his character the way the Flint reveal was, it still works extremely well with the story and recontextualizes so much of his previous scenes. He’s had to play an extremely careful role so as to not tip his hand, and he’s done it masterfully. Aaaand of course that’s also when he gets shot, leaving us on a hell of a cliffhanger. Can’t wait to watch the next one, and see what Lola and Milena think of it as well!
cosmotron
2024-03-08 02:50:10 +0000 UTCThat of course leads into a rather interesting scene with Eleanor and Rogers. Eleanor is reluctant for Rogers to hear what her enemies at Nassau would say. It makes sense, considering all he said about her earlier and the way that made her feel. She almost died in England, and if it weren’t for Rogers she would have. On top of that he offered her a chance to be a part in stabilizing Nassau, as she always wanted. And he’s telling her that he couldn’t do it without her, how valuable she is to all of it…of course she would be upset at the idea of him hearing these things. Because she’s feeling valued, and she’s afraid these things would change his perspective. “They would say I’m untrustworthy. That I would turn on anyone at any time, no matter how close they were to me, no matter who it hurt or how severely. That given my history, only a fool would allow me to get close to them again.” And she can’t answer when he asks if they would be right. Which is an answer all on its own. Bapr zber, tbggn uvtuyvtug gung Ryrnabe vf irel bcra jvgu Ebtref. Ur xabjf nyy bs ure onttntr, nyy bs ure fvaf naq zvfgnxrf. Naq jura tvira gur bccbeghavgl gb bcra hc gb ure va gur fnzr jnl...ur qryvorengryl zvfyrnqf ure gb chg uvzfrys va n zber snibenoyr yvtug. Ur uvqrf uvf qnex qrrqf va gur anzr bs "cebgrpgvat" ure, naq nyy gung ernyyl qbrf vf qrzbafgengr ubj yvggyr ur gehyl xarj be erfcrpgrq ure ng nyy. V shpxvat ungr Jbbqrf Ebtref. Vane and Teach escape with their fleet by utilizing a very real battle tactic: a fire ship. Quite literally what it sounds like, and a pretty effective maneuver. Sometimes they would ram ships like we see here, other times it was just for the sake of morale and to make whoever they were facing afraid, or they could even be rigged to explode to cause maximum damage.
cosmotron
2024-03-08 02:49:43 +0000 UTCSilver is taken to see the Maroon Princess. They don’t say her name until later, but I’ll go ahead and call her by it since it’s revealed by the end. Anyway, Madi has a single question for him: why did all of their crew refuse the pardons they were offered? Silver tries to offer a variety of reasons, each different depending on the man, but she doesn’t accept that. “No. There are over 1,000 men and women here. Among them there is no shortage of anger or hate or fear. Perhaps you’ve noticed. They have suffered cruelties you cannot possibly imagine. Sisters separated from brothers. Husbands from their wives. Mothers from their sons. No one has greater cause to swear England an enemy and desire vengeance against her as we do.” What a great speech. Though of course it leads into a conversation about how that anger and hatred is being directed. The community here feels all of those things and lives in fear of England, understandably so. The Walrus crew has been convinced to *not* fear England, and to direct that anger toward it instead. Because they have become something that England fears in turn, and that’s part of what has given them power in this situation. This is a short scene overall, but it does a lot to characterize Madi’s character very quickly: she’s smart and perceptive and empathetic all at once. Lmao I kind of love that even Teach is like “gotta give Eleanor some credit”. Like, it’s true haha. Even if you don’t like her, it’s impressive that she’s managed to do what she has. “I was taught a lesson once. It’s been effective.” “Who taught you?” “Her.” Ouch. True, but ouch. And you can see that hurt is still very present in Vane.
cosmotron
2024-03-08 02:49:14 +0000 UTCCan't watch this till tomorrow, the wait is gonna kill me :(
HenryM
2024-03-08 02:35:22 +0000 UTCi adore how the black sails watchers here have the calmest people ever and then there's hxh fuckers fighting about an ending for a month.
Salvatore
2024-03-08 02:30:23 +0000 UTCTeach coming in to save Vane is a great moment, even though you can feel it coming and I’m not left with a lot to say about it. Still a great moment! There’s also quite a contrast to the way Flint is taking all of this vs Silver. Flint kind of seems to have given up, while Silver is of course looking for a “third option” that gets them out of there alive. The scene between Mr. Scott and Hornigold is FASCINATING when you know the twist that’s revealed at the end. Honestly, it really does add layers and layers to Scott, who was already an intelligent character. Now we know that he’s even smarter than we realized, and that he’s been up to his own plans in the background this whole time. Talk about playing 4-D chess! Because we also learn that the slaves who had been helping rebuild the fort have disappeared after “someone left the pen unlocked”, and that definitely wasn’t a deliberate act, no sir! Vane looking through the spyglass at Eleanor…somehow feels like there’s so much communicated in that look, and so much he feels when he sees her. It’s a small moment but it always feels striking. Back to our captured Walrus crew! Flint really has given up. He lets Billy question Ben Gunn, knowing that following through with a plan like that is hopeless, but just to let Billy have something. And that brings us to another conversation between Flint and dream Miranda. The way he says “I miss you” just breaks my heart! I also like how Dream Miranda points out that Flint wants to “follow her” through a door (death) because it feels easier knowing she is on the other side. It really feels like it’s her spirit guiding him through a kind of limbo, keeping him from crossing over into death. It fits right in with every other dream/hallucination he’s had of her. A guiding force that he is following, keeping him separate from Death and trying to save his life (even when he couldn’t hear her screaming those words at him).
cosmotron
2024-03-08 02:29:06 +0000 UTCAnd then she steps up. The Maroon Queen, with her daughter right behind her watching (learning) everything. With only a few questions they demonstrate how knowledgeable she is, as she wants to identify the captain and quartermaster first and also has clearly heard Flint’s name. She also knows that it’s the quartermaster who speaks for the crew, not the captain. I like how frankly she speaks with Silver, saying that she can’t take him at his word because of the risk to everyone in her care. She takes away one man for interrogation while the rest are led to a cage holding another man, Ben Gunn. N Gernfher Vfynaq punenpgre! A guy who seems to lack real self awareness, because he talks about the people here taking out their anger on “those they deem complicit” in their slavery and cruel treatment. And then immediately follows it up by admitting he was a crewman on a slave trading ship specifically. Like…sounds as if you were pretty complicit there. Back to Nassau! Jack is gonna blow up parts of the fort that he has been working so hard to rebuild lmao. It is kind of hilarious that it’s partly motivated as a kind of ‘fuck you’ to the governor that’s coming. I also love the little noise Jack makes when Vane asks how much gold they set aside haha. Back to the Walrus crew in the Maroon village. “She is everything here. Priestess, governess, warlord. They say there’s a King, her husband. That he exists abroad salvaging rare items necessary for life here, but impossible to produce. I’ve seen no evidence of him. Here her word is supreme.” I may not like Ben Gunn but that’s a pretty epic way to describe the Maroon Queen.
cosmotron
2024-03-08 02:25:38 +0000 UTCyou came to spain again? hfjdk at this point you'll be collecting spain cities as gem stones. if you accept suggestions in my opinion the north of spain is the most beautiful, specially galicia and asturias, also país vasco. then, not north but still amazing toledo, especially if you are into medieval stuff, the city is beautiful. and the canary islands or the balear islands, very turisic but gorgeous, i lived in lanzarote for a couple of years and let me tell you, i have never seen more beautiful beaches https://www.holaislascanarias.com/playas/lanzarote/papagayo/
sand_fl
2024-03-08 02:20:41 +0000 UTCmadi, the mvp
sand_fl
2024-03-08 02:13:56 +0000 UTCAnyway, back to Nassau for a short scene. People are literally knocking on the door to try and get Vane to come out and Jack is having NONE OF IT. It’s kind of shocking seeing him shoot someone like that, with zero hesitation too. “Why just you? Island full of murdering thieving fucks and you’re the only one they can’t forgive? How does that make any sense?” Moments like this are great for showing how perceptive Anne is. She doesn’t guess the reason, but she picks up on how strange it is right off. Once more with The Walrus crew, we see them being led through the trees, and this is when Flint explains who they are. I mentioned some historical context in another comment, but it makes sense that Flint would be aware places like this exist, because they did. I also appreciate that the show makes it clear that even though the crew has freed slaves, Billy says they have “sold more than we’ve freed”. I mean, we’ve seen similar things this season with Jack, but it’s good to have the audience be reminded of such things. The Maroon community has *no* reason to trust anyone on this crew, and every reason to want them dead. It’s important we know and understand that. I also like the scene of the one crew member trying to run away. The quick cuts from him running to the man slowly following, so utterly confident that he feels no need to hurry. And we soon see why: those who live here know the island, and that includes places where they have set deadly traps. Running away simply isn’t an option. Then of course we get the true reveal of the community itself. And I think it’s important that we see it, because when Flint calls it a “camp” it’s easy to picture something far smaller, even when Flint says it has to be big. This isn’t a bunch of tents or bedrolls, this is a full community with families and children. It really demonstrates what is at stake.
cosmotron
2024-03-08 02:05:48 +0000 UTCI like how we open with several shots that emphasize the beauty of this island, and how amazing it feels to the men who have been without things like fresh water and food. Already, the relationship between Silver and Flint feels different. They really have made progress. Flint even seems a bit…regretful? About how he and Silver weren’t “on the warmest terms”. Which is more self-reflection than you would expect from him in the previous episode. And they talk very openly here, with Silver going over the pardons and what it means, as well as Flint almost revealing to Silver his own knowledge of what went into those pardons. Of course, they’re interrupted by the locals, who capture them all quite easily. From there we go to a scene with Woodes Rogers and Eleanor. Lola and Milena haven’t talked about Rogers very much in their reviews, and I’m curious what their thoughts on him are so far. I think him recognizing how helpful Eleanor has been for him does a lot to earn good will with Eleanor herself. It’s certainly the truth, but quite frankly she’s not used to people valuing her so overtly and confidently, especially not when it comes to choices she makes in the name of stabilizing Nassau. You can tell she’s a bit suspicious of it as well though, which makes sense. At the same time, you can tell his words do resonate with her, and how much it means to her to hear them. And that hearing them makes her feel things. Also, I love how much she’s been wearing green, it's a color that looks great on her. Gung yvatrevat tynapr fur fubbgf uvz nsgre ur fnlf gung fghss V guvax vf gur zbzrag jurer fur fgnegf gb snyy sbe Ebtref. Jurer fur fgnegf gb guvax ur npghnyyl haqrefgnaqf ure, gung fur'f sbhaq fbzrbar jub frrf ure sbe jub fur vf naq inyhrf ure. Xabjvat jung unccraf vg znxrf zl fgbznpu uheg. V shpxvat ungr Jbbqrf Ebtref. Yvxr, rira vs lbh'er abg na Ryrnabe sna, lbh'ir tbggn ungr jung ur qbrf gb ure yngre ba cevapvcyr nybar. Qhqr cynlf na npgvir unaq va oevatvat uvf jvsr'f OVTTRFG SRNE evtug gb ure naq vg trgf ure xvyyrq. V pna'g trg vagb n ovt enag nobhg vg abj, ohg obl bu obl jvyy V jura gur gvzr pbzrf.
cosmotron
2024-03-08 02:05:19 +0000 UTCMADI MADI MADI!!!!!! MADI IS HERE!!! Ahem. I may have been a *little* excited for this character to be introduced. Just a little. Soooooo, back in s1 there’s an episode where Mr. Scott is being held captive on a ship with slaves. This happened because Richard Guthrie betrayed him, but also because Scott was trying to keep Flint’s crew from taking a warship and its guns for their own use. He said it was because “those guns were dangerous to someone I love”. And at the time you of course think he is talking about Eleanor, but with this episode in mind…you have to wonder if perhaps he was worried about something else entirely. As far as I know, the writers started planning this kind of storyline for Scott in s2, not s1, but it’s still something that works in retrospect. Because the pirates of Nassau having access to so many guns on a huge warship would *definitely* have the potential to be dangerous for this community of people. Of course, it is also dangerous in the hands of the British, but the pirates of Nassau are closer far more often. Also, the community here is based on real things in history! There really were communities of escaped slaves that formed on islands like this. And the Maroon Queen in this episode was inspired by real people like Queen Nanny, who was the leader of a similar community in Jamaica during the 18th century. There is very little written record of her, but she was one of many leaders of escaped slaves that existed hidden away from the British Empire. In an interview on the Fathoms Deep podcast, writer/showrunner Jon Steinberg said that not including these people in the story would “have been dishonest”, and that it was something they felt was important to include as well.
cosmotron
2024-03-08 01:57:35 +0000 UTCHey everyone, here's my reaction to 3x04. The review starts at 6:11 😊 https://youtu.be/YNTAlxzRbZA?si=aTv9bjHWlpPhqkfH
TeaDrinker3000
2024-03-08 01:53:40 +0000 UTC
