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Black Sails 2x10 Reaction

Black Sails 2x10 Reaction

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I admire your restraint lol

cosmotron

Yes, it's an amazing show and the difference is nudity, sexual scenes and even violent scenes in Outlander are never, not even once, threw there just for shock effect or for the sake of it. It's a wonderfully written and acted show.

Sweet Owl

lol seriously? You saw how uncomfortable the girls were with the Max scenes in season 1, and so you'd recommend a show with the most vile sexual assault scenes in TV history (you know which ones), and continues to have near rape scenes in every season?

Scott

@Lola, I heard you mention Outlander, being it another Starz show, if you girls didn't watch it I extremely recommend to put it in your To Watch List because it's truly amazing. And it has the best love story I have ever read or watched.

Sweet Owl

Definitely one of the best episodes of the show, don't even need to say how great the action was. So, beside that, I loved the feeling of brotherhood between the crew, the way all stood up to protect Silver despite being chained and with pistols aimed at them. They knew they couldn't prevent them from taking Silver but they tried anyway "That's our brother". Once again I must say how much I like Abigail, even in her short appereances she always struck me, love the character, love the way Meganne Young delivers her lines and love her voice :3 So many awesome quotes in this episide, but one in particular is among my favourites of all time: - Flint: "I have one regret. I regret ever coming to this place with the assumption that a reconciliation could be found. That reason, could be a bridge between us. Everyone is a monster to someone. Since you are so convinced that I am yours, I will be it." EDIT: I forgot to mention the sweet lovely moment between Anne and Jack, I love their relationship, even if they can't be lovers they will always be for each other the best friend and companion you could ever find.

Sweet Owl

I don't think she was hurt, even if she was in Charlestown she would have been in Lord Ashe mansion which was not near the docks. In the end they were firing cannonballs not bombs, they do bounce around but the area of effect is limited and they had limited ammunitions.

Sweet Owl

I watched up until episode 3, I don't want to get too far ahead even tho I really want to binge this 😄

HenryM

Omg I remember hearing that on the Fathoms Deep podcast! I feel like you’d have to know getting something broken would be possible when asking a guy like Zach McGowan to not hold back lol

cosmotron

Minor correction: John Silver is not a real pirate, but you are correct when connecting the image of a one-legged pirate to him. Some of us mentioned/hinted at this back when you first started watching, but some characters (like Silver and Flint) are originally from the famous novel Treasure Island. Black Sails is not an adaptation of that book, but characters originally from it do feature in the show. Treasure Island was a very influential adventure novel published in the 1880s. And the stereotypical image of a pirate - that of a one legged man named John Silver - originates from that novel. You can watch Black Sails without any knowledge of Treasure Island, but there are a lot of interesting details to note if you are familiar. One of those was knowing Silver would lose his leg. I mentioned in another comment that Silver was the one who gave over the cleaver to cut off Randall’s leg. When I first watched the show that moment made me laugh out loud because of the irony involved in *John Silver* suggesting leg amputation.

cosmotron

I feel like Milena’s face perfectly communicates exactly what my heart also feels about Flint haha. Have you watched ahead or are you mostly trying to stay at the same pace that the girls are?

cosmotron

Season 3 finale is my favorite episode of TV ever

Dante

I've heard somewhere (might have been "stuntmen react" from Corridor Digital series) that if a stuntman gets hurt doing a take, it's like an unspoken rule to use that take if possible

HenryM

Everytime Milena cries for Flint's sad face it gets me all emotional 💔 Not gonna lie, when the crowd started throwing rocks at Miranda's corpse I also wanted to burn that whole place to the ground lol. Without a doubt one of the best season finales I've ever seen

HenryM

Yeah I think that scene with her at the start is partly there to let us know she isn’t in Charlestown when this happens.

cosmotron

This is one of the best episodes of TV I have ever seen.

Drew

One of the greatest episodes of television of all time. What a finale.

RageKage

I’m not sure is this episode or season 3 finale best episode of the show , well for me anyway , but great reaction ladies . I wouldn’t be suprised if you are already somewhere near the end of season 3 since you were 3x03 not so long ago . Every time Milena introduces herself at the begining of the video I hear Jelena . At one point I was actually thinking who the frak is Milena there is Jelena and Lola :) I think Abigail is fine . I don’t think she is dead .

Sone

Fun fact; during Flint and Vanes escape, one of the stuntmen told Zach McGowan not to hold back when hitting him with one of the fake guns. Zach didn’t. He broke the stubtmans jaw. And they used the shot in the show đŸ€Ł

Wanda Did Nothing Wrong

Pretty sure Abigail is fine because Peter told her he was sending her away while she was playing piano at the start of the episode.

ODIS

Regardless of the Savannah situation, I'd say she got out of dodge, in my opinion. I feel it'd be too much to have Abigail hurt in this episode, from a writing perspective it would undermine her role as a foil to Lord Ashe in that regard,

TeaDrinker3000

"he turns his head towards miranda... stantindo there, i mean, not standing, shes dead" skdsskjdh please, this is one of the funniest things you've said and i've been watching your videos for years.

sand_fl

hey, quick question, how did you all interpret this, because when i watched and rewatched i asumed abigail did leave to visit that person in savannah. i mean, she did call peter's bullshit but she probabaly left right. it never cossed my mind the possibilty that she could be in charlestown while it burned. what do you think?

sand_fl

23:59: We are a civilized society. 00:00: Starts to throw lettuce at a dead person.

Gustavo

They're gonna have to give us their updated Top 5 Series at the end of Black Sails because I know it'll knock something out for each of them (and maybe already has!)

Ninaly

Then we get a conversation between Silver and Flint. Silver wakes up, still in bad shape after what has happened to him. The way Flint says that Silver is quartermaster is actually very cute? Despite everything, there’s a kind of certainty in Flint at this moment. He’s focused “The more they need you, the more you need them. And it drives you to do the most unexpected things.” Again, this reminds me of his earlier statements to Silver. I mean, where else can he go and have people who would do for him what his crew did? Who would want him to be their quartermaster? Already it has driven Silver to do things he never thought he would. V'yy gnyx nobhg guvf zber zhpu yngre, ohg V guvax Fvyire unf yvgrenyyl arire rkcrevraprq ybir va uvf yvsr naq qbrafa'g xabj ubj gb unaqyr nal sbez bs vg. Naq jura ur fgnegf gb trg vg, ur ernyvmrf ubj zhpu ur unf penirq vg. Naq gung va ghea yrnqf gb uvz qbvat zber "harkcrpgrq guvatf" gb xrrc vg. Silver also takes this moment to give Flint a carefully edited version of the truth: that members of the crew had lied about what happened to the Urca gold. It’s very convenient for Silver that he’s the only one alive here who can tell this story, and carefully cast himself as someone who wasn’t involved. Rather than the one that orchestrated it. (Also, there’s a moment where it seems like he’s playing up a little how much his wound hurts him lol. Not that I think it isn’t hurting him, I’m sure it is. But like he’s closing his eyes all ‘oh my terrible wound’ and it feels like it’s meant to further keep Flint from suspecting him haha) Sidenote, if you’re curious about how they do the effect of him missing a leg, it’s a combination of things. Firstly, in scenes like this they will cut holes in the furniture. So his leg is just bent and hidden inside what he’s laying on, and he’s covered by a blanket to help hide it. Most of it is small things like that, though they also used a stunt performer who is an amputee! But all of that brings us to the end. One of Max’s many informants runs to tell her that Jack and Anne have returned. They look a little worse for wear: evidently there were more spanish soldiers on that beach than advertized. But they also returned with The Walrus, which we haven’t seen since it we left behind on that beach near the Urca. They repaired it, because
 “We needed the hold space. Would you like to see something shiny?” Amazing. And that last shot of the season, showing us the gold on the ship and the light of it aglow on Max’s face as she slowly smiles? What a perfecting end and a great setup for the next season. Again, what a finale. I can’t wait to see Lola and Milena’s reaction and to hear their thoughts on it. And anyone else who is watching for the first time as well! I’m so sad that we are halfway done, but so very very excited for the rest.

cosmotron

Back on the ship. “The question you should be asking is
where are his keys? And has he seen them since he took me away from my men?” *My* men Silver says. Not *the* men, or *the* crew. Just earlier this season he wasn’t even willing to identify himself as a member of that crew. Max caught him doing so (“The men on his crew? Aren’t you one of the men on his crew?”). And yet here he is, calling them *his* men. Now that’s some character growth. And boy does it feel great when those bombs roll in and the rest of his crew follows. Back to the utter chaos that is Charlestown. Once again I have to praise the camera work, this just looks amazing. The practical effects are always wonderfully done, and the CGI they use blends with it seamlessly. Tehre are so many great moments, from the long unbroken shot of Flint and Vane running, when Flint kills a man up against a cage full of slaves and the slaves help, then he frees them? So much greatness. And Flint and Vane do it all while still wearing their shackles! Oh yeah, and Miranda’s killer gets split by a cannonball, so that’s great too. Love to see it. “What’s the target captain?” “Whatever’s left.” God. What a statement. Silver with his crew, and losing his leg. Even knowing it’s coming it feels so intense. Them choosing to stay with him, saying that they would look after him? Gives me so many emotions. And of course it is intercut with the firing of the canons as Flint once again “rains holy hell” down. I mean, he said he was going to be their monster. That Miranda’s words would determine the fate of this place. And she wanted Charlestown, the “city purchased with our misery”, to burn. So it burns. And her body is there watching over it all, like some kind of sentinel, oddly untouched in the last moment that we see it. The music that plays over this is also incredibly haunting. That long mournful note that plays as Flint watches and then turns away? Gorgeous.

cosmotron

Back to Silver on the ship. And we see more of what his temporary partner Vincent has been planning. Honestly, it’s pretty smart stuff. Between pretending to throw up to approaching Vane’s crew after hearing their conversation
I can see why he made this choice. Not that it turns out well for him. I think no one is more surprised by Silver’s choice than Silver himself though. There was absolutely a time when he would have taken this offer. Perhaps, if he didn’t know that the crew also is currently taking off their chains, he would feel differently. But that doesn’t really matter, because the choice he makes now is still a big change for him. I haven’t given enough credit to Silver’s actor, Luke Arnold. He’s really great. You can see on his face that he’s trying to will himself to say those names, and he just can’t do it. He says “No” and can’t quite believe it himself. Oh, another minor thing: Vane’s crew asking for ten men that Silver can name to join them is also a callback/paralell to something earlier in the season. When Billy told Dufresne that they could find “ten men” for pardons. Obviously in this case it’s technically twelve men, but the wording seems like a direct callback to me. Silver even tries to stop Vincent from getting shot! It's a nice detail that he doesn’t die right away, he has time to look over at Silver and then down at himself again as he starts to die. Not super drawn out but still adds a level of horror to it. What’s also horrible is that Silver gets taken to a table and held down as Vane’s quartermaster starts to go at his leg with a hammer. Vg'f vagrerfgvat ubj fhecevfvat guvf zbzrag vf, rira vs lbh'er snzvyvne jvgu Gernfher Vfynaq. Wbua Fvyire vf engure snzbhf sbe zvffvat n yrt, lrg guvf nyjnlf srryf fb fubpxvat. Back on the shore of Charlestown, I love how Vane and Flint’s conversation is intercut with the pirates beginning to overtake the canons at the wall. “We remind them that they were right to be afraid.” That delivery gives me chills every time. “For those of you who live to see tomorrow
know that you had a choice to see the truth and you let yourselves be convinced otherwise.” And yet another banger line, to start off a literal bang. Because that is when Vane signals to his men, and they begin to fire the canons. It’s incredibly chaotic and intense. Violent and horrific and satisfying all at once. The camerawork is incredible as well, you truly feel how desperate it all is. What’s especially satisfying is seeing Flint stab Ashe in the ut and pin him to the ground. “Her word will be the last word for this place.” And the way he makes Ashe look at Miranda’s body
perfection.

cosmotron

Flint: Even in this moment, alone with a condemned man, you are unable to speak the truth. Vane: For those of you who live to see tomorrow... hahhhahhahah

Gustavo

Maybe the only thing missing in this episode is Flint saying/yelling "Fire!"

Gustavo

Vane was such a giga chad this episode.

Melkor

0:18:54 “It’s gonna be absolutely fine” - Lola Famous last words lol.

Melkor

You wouldn't BELIEVE what some of us had to do while waiting for this to be uploaded... 😼‍💹 Anyways, here's my scene by scene review for 2x10. The review starts at 1:00 . Do I sing the theme tune immediately beforehand? Only one way to find out 😊 https://youtu.be/LTie8J8yyO4?si=ypRhg_KeEF1inzF6

TeaDrinker3000

The conversation Ashe has with
Kensington is apparently his name, is interesting as well. Ashe could just throw the journal in the fire, but doing that in light of how publicly it was produced would go over rather badly. But that doesn’t really change anything. The journal itself doesn't change anything. Kensington makes that clear. They’ve bought out the jury, and from where they are standing there is no way to change the outcome that has been arranged. All Abigail’s journal does is cause a little talk, a brief pause in discussion before Flint’s sentence is carried out. Of course, they can’t guess that that little pause, that more time given, is the actual goal here. And we cut from discussion of how they will hang both Flint and Vane, to Nassau and a doll meant to represent Eleanor hanging in the streets. With a sign around her neck that says ‘good riddance’. Max is staring at that sign, and it’s clearly got the wheels in her brain turning. Combined with her talking to Idelle about the consequences for piracy earlier
she’s connecting a lot of dots and making some quick choices for the sake of survival and safety. She knows what she has done could put her in the same kind of danger as Eleanor, and result in the same fate. So, what can she do to try and prevent that? “I have no interest in making the same mistakes Eleanor Guthrie did. No interest in fencing their plunder. No interest in lording over them in any way. For people like us, power in this place is most effective when it is least perceived.” Man, I love that whole monologue. And that further illustrates what has been on Max’s mind. She knows that being what Eleanor was, the very visible “Queen of thieves” who walks out of her bar and says that she’ll take on anyone who has a problem with how she does things
won’t work for her. That following that path will only lead her to the same end that seems to have rushed to meet Eleanor. So, can she still step into Eleanor’s shoes and move that path in a different direction, using different methods? She’s certainly going to try, and I think it’s a fascinating choice. “Why is this place so important to you? Why offer more for this than the others?” Because despite it all, this place is important to her. Despite it all, Eleanor is important to her, and so are the things associated with her. But that goes for more than just Eleanor herself, and the position she held as well. V guvax vg'f fb snpvangvat gung qrfcvgr guvf, Znk fgnlf ng ure ebbz ng gur oebgury. Fur qbrfa'g zbir vagb Ryrnabe'f cynpr, rira nf fur gnxrf ure punve.

cosmotron

Back on the ship, we learn that SIlver’s actions haven’t gone unnoticed, and he’s in the contending for becoming quartermaster. Knowing where we get by the end
yeah I see why what happens over the rest of this episode is enough to get the remaining votes. I love the moment when Vane’s crew comes for Silver, and the Walrus crew stands up all around them. “That’s our brother you’ve got there.” Billy says. Oh man does that give a rush of feelings, and I think Silver is just as surprised (and effected?) by it. It’s also interesting to watch knowing that an exchange of keys took place. When you know it, you can see the look that happens between Billy and Silver. I love rewatching and being able to pick up on small details like that, it’s so rewarding. Back to Charlestown. “I have one regret. I regret ever coming to this place with the assumption that reconciliation could be found. That reason could be a bridge between us. Everyone is a monster to someone. Since you are so convinced that I am yours, I will be it.” God. That statement has so many layers to it. It’s both amazing to watch, and it hurts to see Flint embrace the label of monster after rebelling against it for so long. I know I mention how amazing Toby Stephens is every five seconds, but what can I say? His performance as Flint is masterful. And that’s more or less where Vane shows up. With Abigail Ashe’s journal as testimony. It’s something you don’t expect the first time through, but makes perfect sense. And it even adds more weight to the episode with her narration: it wasn’t just serving as a device for that single episode, but was setup for this moment as well.

cosmotron

Back on Nassau, word of Eleanor’s arrest has gotten around. It’s clearly something that takes Max by surprise, and I think something she feels complicated about. She tells Idelle that it is “less difficult” than she thinks to consider what may happen to Eleanor, but it is clearly still a factor. More than that I think it has demonstrated the consequences of doing as Eleanor did
and that’s a thought that clearly sticks with her, but more on that later. For now, she’s already making plans and taking steps, which is something I love about her. (Also, I love her yellow dress. It’s gorgeous.) On Jack’s ship, I love the callback to “let me tell you a story about a Spainard named Vasquez” that Flint used to say. Sounds different coming from Featherstone, but it’s clearly still quite effective. What I really want to talk about is the absolutely beautiful conversation between Jack and Anne. First off, Clara Paget really feels like she’s carrying an entirely different air about her. She seems
taller, more sure of herself. Even when she’s just standing at the end of the boat before Jack walks over to her, and she’s sort of just watching the sea and feeling the wind
she feels more herself, and it’s conveyed in very subtle ways. “I can’t be your wife Jack. But we’re gonna be partners ‘til they put us in the fucking ground.” Perfection. Makes me teary and feel so warm in my heart. It’s a lovely relationship that they have, and I appreciate its complexity so much. I also really appreciate what it does for Anne’s character. To me, she has always read as someone who is realizing that they are gay. And part of the difficulty with that was how much she loved Jack: like they were two halves of a whole. She loves him deeply and truly, but that doesn’t mean she can be his wife. And of course he loves her just as much. Even though this is hard for him. Because he would still have her be his wife. But he loves her enough to accept this, because to do otherwise would be to lose her.

cosmotron

Back to the square in Charlestown. There’s a sign in the background that always grabs my attention: Suffering is the soil in which faith grows. That’s
quite a statement. Seeing Flint in chains hurts, as does the way the crowd is being stoked into a frenzy. Those kids standing right up near him as the crier talks about how Flint is an “animal” that they have finally taken down? Amazingly done because it makes me so infuriated and sad. Then of course there’s Ashe and Flint’s conversation. Ashe continuing to insist that this wasn’t the outcome he wanted. And I can believe that. But he sure isn’t doing a lot to change it, is he? “Let her go to her rest peacefully. You cannot tell me that isn’t what she would have wanted.” “She was clear about what she wanted. And I don’t think it had anything to do with begging your forgiveness.” Always gives me chills. I already touched on it more in a smaller comment, but I just love that moment so much. Miranda’s word will be carried out, and Flint is going to make sure of it, as he has before. And of course Flint goes on to talk about the truth as well, that what Miranda wanted was “for the truth to be known.” This, I think, further drives home the fact that Ashe’s excuse for what he did what he did was just that: an excuse to cover up the truth. To make himself feel better. The way he reacts to Flint’s words communicates that to me, but his previous actions reinforce it. I said it in the comments of the last episode, but if he had truly wanted their forgiveness and truly regretted them, he would have told them the information himself. Not suggested that James face all of England’s scrutiny and punishment. He would have said what he had done and begged for them to understand why he felt he had to do it. But that’s not what happened. He hid that he had done it. Because he was ashamed of the real reason why. “Even in this moment, alone with a condemned man, you are unable to speak the truth.” There are too many good lines of dialogue in this episode and in this series, goddamn. Of course, that’s when things begin to feel even worse. Because they uncover Miranda’s coffin. To display her body for ridicule to the crowd. So that they can throw things at her body as the crier declares their various crimes. It’s genuinely hard to watch, and once more Toby Stephens is incredible with the way his face twitches as he watches this happen. Like every strike hits him as well.

cosmotron

God, what an episode this is. What a finale, what a fucking show. I love that we open with Abigail. The single note on the piano really reminds me of the ticking clock in the previous episode. But her confrontation with her father is really great: it shows how much she has grown and changed in a short amount of time. “Yes. You’re going to kill Mr. McGraw.” I love how plainly she says this. That she calls him McGraw and not Flint. And of course her following this up by questioning her father’s motives. Is he sending her away for her own benefit, or his? And I love the emphasis on truth, because the truth was absolutely a theme with Miranda’s character as well. She was very much about ‘exposing’ the truth in others, or challenging them to find the truth of themselves. We saw her do this with James in the past, or even in a more aggressive and frustrated manner like with pastor Lambrick. And of course when she died, she was in part screaming the truth. So I think it’s really interesting to have Abigail be so focused on the truth as well, like an extension of what we had seen from Miranda’s character. Not only that but I think it is also meant to make us (and Peter Ashe) question his words. Did he betray Thomas and James and Miranda for the sake of his family, or did he do it for himself? He’s certainly always told himself that it was for his family. But what is the truth? In any case, he seems unwilling to confront it. “The only man, it seems to me, who has committed a crime in all of this, still works for you. Is that not the truth?” Considering everything that happens, I’m glad this also establishes that Abigail wasn’t around past this opening scene. Vg jbhyq unir orra avpr gb frr ure ntnva. V nyjnlf jbaqrerq ubj fur jbhyq unir sryg urnevat nobhg guvf naq gur erfg bs gur snyybhg gung unccraf, rfcrpvnyyl tvira jung fur'f frra. V vzntvar fur jbhyq or engure pbasyvpgrq. Vane’s exchange with his quartermaster. I think it’s really interesting how frequently Vane’s choice to go out and get this crew has routinely bitten him in the ass, or else made things much more challenging for him. I like Silver and Billy’s conversation while they’re sitting on the deck in chains. Billy points out that just because Vane is saving Flint from Charlestown, it doens’t mean he’s saving Flint afterward. He’s just as likely to slit his throat once they’re off land. “That was rather dark.” Makes me laugh every time. This is also the moment where Billy gives Vane Abigail’s journal, not that we know that the first time. On rewatch I think it’s interesting in particular because of Billy’s backstory. His parents printed pamphlets, and knew what it was to use information and distribute it for a cause. Billy suggesting the use of Abigail’s journal is a similar line of thinking. Naq jr jvyy frr uvz hfr guvf xvaq bs xabjyrqtr zber naq zber nf gur fubj tbrf ba.

cosmotron

ITS HEREEEEEE HYPE.

Melkor

Last small thing to note: When Randall’s leg was chopped off back in season one, it was Silver who brought over the cleaver used to do it. *His* idea to chop off Randall’s leg.

cosmotron

This was the episode that made me fall in love with this show. Luke Arnold (John Silver) thinks seasons 1 & 2 is “the prologue” of Black Sails and I completely agree.

Bushido Black

dropping everything i'm doing just to watch this. meaning dropping a mediocre book to watch one of the best episodes of a show yet again.

sand_fl

So much happens in this episode, but I also have to shout out this line from Anne: “You saved me from something awful. I owe you my life, Jack. Maybe there’s some part of that you just can’t owe.” I really love this. Just at the beginning of this season Anne was telling Max that “When you owe somebody your life, it ain’t truly your own. You owe some part of it back.” So for her to start there and come around to realize this instead is lovely.

cosmotron

“Her word will be the last word for this place.” This, with the callback to her speech about wanting Charlestown to burn, always reminds me of the little detail from season one. About how there were rumors she was a witch that controlled Flint’s actions. This, of course, isn’t true on a literal level. But moments like this show how it has a metaphorical truth all the same. This is like a spell they’ve cast together. Her words for Charlestown, her will that he will carry out. What gorgeous writing.

cosmotron


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