Black Sails 1x05 Reaction
Added 2024-01-04 02:26:41 +0000 UTC
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ya it's all cool im just trolling
breezy
2024-01-07 04:37:25 +0000 UTCIs hxh soon?
Ammar gayal
2024-01-06 22:19:33 +0000 UTCWith Patreon, it always applies from the first of the month. It sucks, but that's the way it is. And they post the reactions retroactively. It's always been like that. At the end of the month, you have eight reactions from each of the longer shows and four reactions from each of the shorter shows.
Robert H.
2024-01-06 19:11:58 +0000 UTCThey posted an update with hxh about how they’ve been busy with new years and holiday stuff, since their holiday is on a different day. So the uploads for this week have been a bit behind as a result.
cosmotron
2024-01-06 18:43:37 +0000 UTCim using my hard earned money to subs for content. last month im subs on 18 dec and expired in 1 january like wtf? and now it's been 3 days with no content
breezy
2024-01-06 18:13:33 +0000 UTCmaybe when i finish! dont want to accidentally spoil something for myself by joining and talking about it
Amber
2024-01-06 04:18:49 +0000 UTC@Amber Oh I'd say S4 is also great. Not sure about the OP's opinion, but as far as I'm concerned S4 is excellent. Also, I'm so happy you've been enjoying the show enough to keep watching it on it's own! You should join the discord server to chat about your thoughts!
cosmotron
2024-01-06 02:58:12 +0000 UTCIs season 4 not great? I’m near the end of season 2 rn on my first watch through & loving it sooo much lol
Amber
2024-01-06 02:42:50 +0000 UTCTotally normal reaction to enthusiasm; God forbid people care about something. 🥴
Kaitlyn
2024-01-05 22:34:13 +0000 UTCMan, every episode from here to the end of season 3 is so goddamn good I can't wait.
Corncobtv
2024-01-05 08:03:35 +0000 UTCMe trying to be a mature adult and not jumping to conclusions whenever Lola says "the ship is full of tops" 😂
TeaDrinker3000
2024-01-04 22:03:25 +0000 UTCWriting in depth and thoughtful comments is bad because...?
cosmotron
2024-01-04 19:52:00 +0000 UTClet them live comment above yours was great, learned a lot more about seafaring
Ninaly
2024-01-04 17:51:19 +0000 UTCThanks!
TeaDrinker3000
2024-01-04 15:53:39 +0000 UTCSome of you commenters are borderline obsessive. Niggas writing full essays and shit.
Gangster Pikachu
2024-01-04 14:15:17 +0000 UTCNot mad, just caught me off guard. I don't frequent this comment section much so being greeted by doctoral dissertations wasn't something I was expecting. Write what you want, I don't care.
BNJ
2024-01-04 13:55:31 +0000 UTCThose sailships don't sink that easily, they are made of wood which wants to stay afloat. Also to get water inside the cannon balls must hit below the waterline (which is a tactic used to sink ships) but during battles they don't aim so low, they either aim to disable the riggings in order to deprive the ship of maneuverability, to the ship cannons or to the crew. If you are a pirate you definitely don't want to sink the prey otherwise you'll get nothing, if you are defending or hunting the pirates... I'm not sure, maybe it's not an effective strategy during a battle or maybe they didn't to keep open the possibility of taking prisoners (to trial and hang pirates could serve as a show of force and deterrent), to recover valuables or even the ship entirely. Oh and they use the term "knot" (still used today actually) because as they showed, the speed was mesured with literally knots on a rope: you throw one end to which is attached a weight into the water and let the rope unwind for a predetermined amount of time. On the rope you have several equidistant knots, when the time is up you count how many knots unwinded and there you have your speed measurement :)
Sweet Owl
2024-01-04 12:23:12 +0000 UTCinadvertently learning that ‘tops’ is the serbian word for cannon by how often lola referred to them as such
Sebastian
2024-01-04 10:51:53 +0000 UTCOne thing to point out, is that Mr. Scott Betrayed Eleanor by trusting her father and picking his side and allowing Bryson to leave with the guns. Yes he did that because her father convinced him that this way he was actually protecting her, but that doesn't change the fact that he sided with him against her plans.
AlexBoss
2024-01-04 10:33:54 +0000 UTCI guess Billy didn't get along with that Portuguese guy. Maybe because of his lisp.
Shivering King Banana
2024-01-04 07:56:31 +0000 UTCWhat a weird thing to be mad about
cosmotron
2024-01-04 07:13:11 +0000 UTCBlack Sails scholars and what of it?
Isaac
2024-01-04 06:47:15 +0000 UTCWhat is this comment section? Are people writing their term papers or something? Fucking hell.
BNJ
2024-01-04 06:24:40 +0000 UTCIt was in this episode and the first one, or at least similar scenes. In the first episode she is tending to one of the prostitutes who is beaten up. And Eleanor comments on it/says Noonan should put a stop to it. And Mapleton basically laughs and says that they paid her a lot for it, so what did these bruises matter?
cosmotron
2024-01-04 06:13:10 +0000 UTCThat was this episode with the Mapleton bit(the extra payment for crossing the line), or was there another?
Isaac
2024-01-04 06:01:16 +0000 UTCThe sniper scenario is actually very accurate. It was a long used tactic by pirates to snipe people before boarding.
Wanda Did Nothing Wrong
2024-01-04 04:37:52 +0000 UTCJust got done listening to the discussion. Man I can't wait for you both to see the next few episodes. In my opinion this is where the show truly starts to take off, and it's nothing but pure amazingness from episode 6 on. And of course I can't wait for us to get to things beyond this season too - the discussions have already been really good, so I can't wait to hear them dive into it as they get more information. I also agree that the characters are one of the best things about this series, and it's great you guys think so when we are still so early. Already we have established so many different people with varying motivations and it's interwoven in a really complex way.
cosmotron
2024-01-04 04:31:00 +0000 UTCLMAO Gates is still Grant for you guys. Hopefully by the next episode you'll remember his name. EDIT: Oh, and if you think the show is bingeable now, just wait. It really does get better with each episode like you guys said. I'm really happy you're already disappointed when an episode ends because you want more.
cosmotron
2024-01-04 03:52:26 +0000 UTCOh, and a "Skiff" is basically a small boat, you may have figured that out by watching the rest but wanted to define it anyway. I really really like the conversation Eleanor and Silver have here. It’s interesting how Eleanor seems to have turned to Silver in Mr. Scott’s absence, as if she just needs someone to talk to about these things. “She chose it. I’ve been repeating those words to myself for well over a week now and find them wanting. Now he asks me to back off Charles, to proclaim to the world that what happened to Max is acceptable. To apologize to those animals for having ever said otherwise, to smile as they lord it over me…” She asks Silver to convince her that she should “betray Max a second time”. I appreciate how much we see that these choices do weigh on Eleanor. It’s not like she does these things and spares no more thoughts about it. What is happening with Max has been playing on repeat in her mind, haunting her, in no small part because of the guilt she refuses to overtly acknowledge. She betrayed Max for the sake of her vision of Nassau’s future. Yet doing it again for the same reason doesn’t come off as any easier. But she’s already made this choice. She can’t turn back, or it was all for nothing. Billy finds a letter from Miranda, but before he can read it we get a “messenger” from Bryson. He held the slaves at gunpoint until one of them was willing to do this, to sacrifice their life to prevent Bryson from shooting more of them. It’s utterly horrific. And we end on a shot of Flint’s bloodied face: not exactly an unfamiliar sight. But it’s a hell of a cliffhanger, especially now that we know The Scarborough is closing in. Can’t wait to get to the next episode! We are almost at the end of S1 already, though of course it has less episodes than the other seasons. So many wild twists and turns are ahead of us, and I can’t wait to see what Lola and Milena (as well as anyone else watching for the first time) think! I'll probably add in even more comments after listening to the discussion, but this is the end of my pre-written notes.
cosmotron
2024-01-04 03:41:49 +0000 UTC“Perhaps its time we sent them our terms.” And that is when we get the horrible reveal. The “cargo” in Captain Bryson’s hold is slaves, and Mr. Scott has been imprisoned among them. Bryson talks about “duty” and having “no choice” as he so casually commands cruelty be performed upon the people in his hold. The people he views as no different from the “fine china” he also transports. It’s all sickening, especially with how Bryson tries to portray himself as a reasonable and noble man. Because of course that’s how he views himself. And in turn he views anything Scott has done, like siding with Eleanor to be "against his duty" as Richard Guthrie's "property". Then of course there’s the additional layer of Mr. Scott being chained here as well. Richard Guthrie told him he wanted to protect Eleanor, begged him for help…and this is how Mr. Scott is treated. It really highlights how everything that came out of Mr. Guthrie’s mouth was complete bullshit, and how easily he said whatever he had to, including manipulating the love Scott has for Eleanor. It's made clear earlier in the episode when he basically throws Eleanor to the wolves by saying their money is basically gone, and this just underlines it. And he does all of this while claiming it's for the best and for the sake of people like Eleanor, without demonstrating any actual care for his daughter *or* Scott. Not that it’s really surprising: the way he so arrogantly talked about Scott being his “former houseboy” and “eventually earning an education” in the previous episode. Still, seeing all of this is a gut punch, and the way Bryson uses the enslaved people for his own ends makes it worse.
cosmotron
2024-01-04 03:31:40 +0000 UTCI love how in the first episode we start with the POV of a ship being boarded by pirates. Now, five episodes in, we see that from the pirate’s POV. It’s interesting how both are meant to make the viewer feel frightened: despite appearances, the pirates are also scared when attacking a ship. And it’s all framed perfectly through Dufresne’s first time boarding another ship: it is our first time as well, and seeing it alongside him works really well. We have that long agonizing wait before it all starts, just building tension with all of the men clearly frightened of what could happen, especially as some of them die to the first few bullets fired. Then, it all truly begins. It’s chaotic, frenzied, desperate. It’s hard for anyone to take in what’s going on around them, and there is nothing else but reacting to what is in front of you, what is happening to you. And in Mr. Dufresne’s case, that includes *biting out someone’s throat* in order to survive. Even Billy is shocked by that one. I don’t want to make too many GoT comparisons, but it does remind me a bit of the desperate fight between Brienne and the Hound where she bites off his ear. Though Dufresne bites off quite a bit more than that of course, the way both fights feel so desperate and brutal really works. I love love love Eleanor’s meeting with the captains she has gathered to form her consortium. “My men aren’t merchant sailors. They’re hunters!” “Yes, but they're bad at it Geoffrey.” Makes me laugh every time. Eleanor’s plan is a good one. It makes sense. But there’s a roadblock to it of her own making. Her choice to ban Captain Vane. “They believe you to be a tyrant in a petticoat,” Hornigold says. Much as we understand Eleanor’s feelings regarding banning Vane, it is clearly just that: based on feelings, and everyone knows it. Eleanor is already at a place where she struggles to get people around her to take her seriously in her father’s stead, despite all that she has done for Nassau. This has not helped how people view her.
cosmotron
2024-01-04 03:20:30 +0000 UTC"Not a single storyline was completed this episode!" Well Milena, we're only on episode 5 😅 I agree tho, this show is very bingeable
HenryM
2024-01-04 03:20:12 +0000 UTCLoved that bit lol
HenryM
2024-01-04 03:18:25 +0000 UTCI loved how the boarding scene was handled. Following the battle through the eyes of Dufresne, an inexperienced fighter, was a great creative choice from a storytelling perspective, I liked how "intimate" the brutality was portrayed. It also seemed like a smart budget decision, as it was a short sequence and not many wide shots were used to show the battle. I didn't expect him to kill a man in that way tho, that caught me off guard, I guess he didn't expect to do something like that either
HenryM
2024-01-04 03:17:58 +0000 UTCOh, and another small moment I like: Billy asks Flint at the start how he's so good at acting unconcerned, and Flint replies "Years of practice." Then later, John is hearing Capt. Lilywhite shouting all that stuff about Eleanor to rile up the crowd while she is seemingly unconcerned and doing business. "If you're pretending to be unconcerned for my peace of mind please don't." To which she replies that his comfort is not the least of her concerns haha. She, like Flint, just has a lot of practice at "appearing unconcerned", despite the bad situation that's only getting worse.
cosmotron
2024-01-04 03:11:33 +0000 UTCThe scene where Max, Anne, and Mapleton are in the tent together is genuinely hard to watch. Mapleton is using something that’s supposed to help Max not get pregnant. Mapleton is being awful about it though, and we’ve seen before that she doesn’t seem to care much for the well-being of the women under her care. We saw this all the way back in episode one, and we see it here again where she tells one of the prostitutes that she should have just charged more rather than being upset that the man she was with did more than she had agreed to. Between that and her quick agreement to a raise instead of being upset they killed Mr. Noonan, and it’s clear she really is all about business and nothing else. But Anne (and us) can only stand to watch for so long, and sends Mapleton away despite being the one that brought her. For real though, this was a really uncomfortable scene when Mapleton was involved. Anne is much gentler with Max, but when she tries to give advice Max points out how wrong it is for her to give it. Anne is the reason Max was caught in the first place. I really appreciate that, because I think it would be easy to just take Anne’s words as the point of the scene: that Max should just cut off her attacker’s balls and be done with it. But Max is not Anne, and Anne trying to give her advice like she doesn’t work. What would realistically happen to Max if she tried to physically fight back against any of those men? They’d either treat her worse or kill her. And when Anne holds responsibility for these things happening to Max in the first place…yeah, Max is right to call her out. This is when Anne confesses that she thought the men would just kill her. They’d get it done and it would be over. But of course that’s not what happened at all. And that definitely explains a lot of her reactions. It was obviously one thing in her mind for her to tell the crew where to find Max so that they could kill her as payback. Keeping her around long term and torturing her is something else entirely, and the way Anne feels about it is clearly bubbling more and more under the surface. How much longer can she keep that under the surface, before it all bursts out? I guess we will have to see.
cosmotron
2024-01-04 03:06:15 +0000 UTCAlso, it's a small moment, but I love the bit where Eleanor is using the key on Silver's handcuffs after he's been cuffed to Randall. And Silver is all "thank you!" thinking she's taking them off, but then she just cuffs him to the chair instead lmao.
cosmotron
2024-01-04 02:55:54 +0000 UTC1x05 First Impressions. - It was interesting to see that scene between Billy Biceps and Flint. I mentioned the last episode how I liked how Flint's growing trust in BB is contrasted with BB's diminishing trust in Flint. I suspect that this will lead BB dismissing an idea or order from Flint that is crucial to a particular goal in coming episodes. Perhaps BB's lack of trust in Flint will actually result in a lot of men dying? "No good captain would acknowledge (the presence of doubt)" is a great line. - Same scene but I'll make a separate paragraph to acknowledge that I love how Flint explaining how deliberately lying for the sake of the crew's morale is a practice that a good captain must undertake is a briliant way to establish BB's episode arc of lying to Dusfrane about past men dying in order to keep Dusfrane from being killed altogether. "Never was there a caeser who couldn't sing the tune". Great writing. - Mrs. Mapleton's brief conversation with the sex worker is a great indication of how it really is 'just business' for all invovled, great worldbuilding there. Same goes for how easy it was for Jack to acquire the establishment when the offer of a higher gross pay was made. Jack being the designated 'talker' of the group is very entertaining. - Silvy is not a popular guy thus far... - BB acknowledging De Groot's criticism of Flint's plan whilst maintaining the peace is a great logical follow-up from the previous scene with them both. He's learning. - Flint is one lucky bastard (for now)... - The scene with Richard explaining to El how he intends for landowners to come and replace the pirates so that they may live a peaceful life of farming etc.; I love the irony how both Richard and Flint both desire to live a peaceful life with no war or piracy to threaten them, and yet both have no choice but to go about it in such a way where El will be inevitably pulled into the middle of their affairs. - "We spoke like men and he saw reason..." I love the way the subtext of "Scott trusts me more than you" is more insulting to El than her actual fear of what might have actually happened to Scott. - El informing Ben that she has everything under control amidst the odds is a great follow-on from Flint doing the very same thing two scenes before. - Glad that we're slowly starting to get a bit of characterisation for Anne Bonny, she's been quite one note so far (not really a criticism, there's not been enough time for everything, but I am looking forward to her doing anything past snarling at this point). - Bryson completely unfettered by the oncoming attack, to the point of making sure his fine china is tended to, is great set-up for the audience that he's to be a formidable foe. - Alongside it being quite the interesting episode arc in its own right, the presence of Dusfrene going into battle is a great way of adding a reference point for the audience to understand just how dangerous this environment is. - In the scene with Max and Anne, when Anne says "When that cunt beat Hamund off you...", is the cunt she's referring to El? Coz it was El who hit Hamund with the plank, right? If so, why does Anne hold animosity towards El? - I'm unsure as to where I rank Max as a favourite character at this time, but as it stands she's by far one of the best actors in this show, holy fucking shit. I believe every tiny expression on her face. - I do like Silvy but I am hoping to get a bit more depth out of his character. He's a bit closer to a comic relief character at the moment, so I'm looking forward to seeing more. - God even the way Hamund looks at El is revolting, let alone what comes out of his mouth. Can't wait for him to be dead. - Having Beauclerc's shooting abilities as the reason for how the crew board's Brysons ship is a plotline I'm not too sure about. Perhaps this was just legimiately the only practical thing that could have been done. I'm not sure if it's a bit too convenient for the plot to have this happen, but then again I don't know that much about boarding boats. I can't even parallel park, or drive at all for that matter. So, someone else can tell me if this part was plot convenience, or accurate to how things actually were. There's a lot of us here, I'm sure at least one of us has experience at the whole piracy thing... - Gates giving BB a compliment :) - Hmmm, Vane suddenly being of the mindset that he isn't as strong as El, I wonder where that comes from? In the previous episode, his vision seemed to imply that he's every bit as strong as her, as did his murdering of the brothel keep... Perhaps the near death experience pushed him the other way, Im not too sure... - I said as much before but goddamn, Dufresne really proved himself on that boarding scene. - Cosmo if you're reading, El's line "It's not an insult, it's a fact" was in my movie you watched! Great mind's think alike, eh? - I liked El's scene where she was able to strike a deal with the traders (hopefully this is the right term), and Ben's ultimatum is valid and apt. El truly has a lot to learn, it's great to see a character so complex. - Scott in the slave-hold was genuinely shocking, and sickening. I like how it's (currently) unclear as to whether or not Richard truly did want Scott punished for aiding El, or if Bryson is acting purely out of his own sadism. The ambiguity the show employs is really mature. - The scene between El and Silvy is one of my favourites of the series thus far. It vocalises exactly what's been running throuh El's head, something which didn't *have* to happen for the audience's sake necessarily but is still really emotionally evocative that it did. We're truly seeing the harsh reality of the life El has to lead, and it speaks to her ethics as a person that the unmitigated power that Vane referred to earlier is something that has not corrupted her as it would otherwise. Also, it's a testament to the writing that Silvy can act as her foil and voice of reason in this scene whilst still speaking about the siutuaiton in his own voice and contextualising it in a way that brings the issue back to him. Less shows would have had this dialogue feel expositionary, but it was done so well here that I have to give it props. - "Guilt is natural, but it goes away if you let it". Black Sails delivering entertainment AND therapy, what a bargain! - I literally have no clue what Vane is up to leaving on the row-boat by himself. I guess we'll see next episode. Maybe he got a vision telling him to help Flint and the rest of the lads, who knows. - The fact that Dufresne is portrayed as being visibly shaken whilst still maintaining his demeanour is a great indication of how committed the writing and directing is to these characters. They're able to create archytpes but give each one of them just the right amount of nuance whilst staying true to their character type. Scenes like this really seal the deal that I'm going to love this show, and why each episode thus far has so much to deliver upon a re-watch. - The last scene, BB on the ball as per yooj. Great cliffhanger to finish up a great episode.
TeaDrinker3000
2024-01-04 02:51:25 +0000 UTCBilly explaining the plan and helping both the crew and us visualize it is really great. It helps demonstrate the mechanics of this kind of thing. It also flies in the face of the usual trope of ‘if you hear the plan it doesn’t work’. While things get complicated afterward, they do successfully board the ship by following their plan. And the big part of their plan - using Mr. Beauclerk to shoot from the crow’s nest - was a real naval tactic used on the sea by pirates. Shooting from the crow’s nest or mast was often a very good way of causing disruption and fear on the boat they were boarding. Plus, most pirates were former naval officers, which means they had pretty extensive training in firearms. I think the conversation Vane has with Idelle in the brothel is interesting. He says that Eleanor has “power that just is” and to a degree that’s true. She was born into privilege, no matter the other struggles she has had. However, we have also seen how much she has to work to hold onto that power, and to actually call it hers. Continuing the pattern of Vane both having a point about Eleanor, and still missing something very vital about her. This episode is what gives us a proper introduction to Dufresne as well. He is the accountant for The Walrus, and while he’s been around since the first episode he is more properly featured here. Billy encouraging him is very endearing. Telling him that no one dies their first time over in order to give him confidence. But it’s also an extension of what Flint taught him: that sometimes a good leader will lie in order to help the crew perform to the best of their ability.
cosmotron
2024-01-04 02:51:02 +0000 UTCLast plug for those who missed it. You can rate every show the girls have ever watched on the channel, and I'll post the results on tomorrow's post🙂 https://freeonlinesurveys.com/s/gPMMWGE3
TeaDrinker3000
2024-01-04 02:50:10 +0000 UTCI love the opening conversation between Flint and Billy. And Flint opens so frankly too: “You don’t trust me, do you?” Billy: How can you just pretend you have no doubts about any of this? Flint: Years of practice. Great exchange. And what Flint says afterward is really interesting. He makes a lot of great points about the necessity of lying as a leader: there are so many ways what they are doing could go wrong. Ways that HE could be wrong. But acknowledging that wouldn’t do anything but cause panic and unease among the men. Men who have to be able to trust in him and listen to his orders if they are going to properly function as a crew. I like that he’s telling this to Billy like it’s a teaching moment, and while he is clearly still being evasive in some ways he is also being open in others. “So we dance the dance. Never was there a Caesar that couldn’t sing the tune.” Love that line. Of course, he’s most evasive during the part of the conversation that involves Mrs. Barlow. “A nice puritan woman who shares my love of books.” The truth is certainly less ‘interesting’ than Miranda being a witch, but does that mean this *is* the truth? Or is it simply a believable lie? Ultimately neither Billy or the viewer gets an answer. The scene where Jack buys the brothel is a lot of fun. Mrs. Mapleton clearly knows how suspicious it all is but just asks for a raise. Eleanor is rather frosty with Silver, and she says it’s in part because of Max, but something tells me there’s at least a little projecting going on here. She can’t deal with her own part in everything that happened with Max, so she blames other people as much as she can. Though, it’s also interesting that Silver says he tried to get her to back out of his dangerous business, and that's true enough. However, it was Max who secured much of the deal. Silver wasn’t sure what he was going to do with the page at first: it was Max who found someone to sell it to, it was Max who had the payment of pearls verified, it was Max who negotiated the deal. So the whole thing was much less his plan than both of theirs, with Max doing most of the legwork at that. ('m trying to split up my notes on an episode into more comments so they won't be so long, wish me luck!)
cosmotron
2024-01-04 02:46:33 +0000 UTCYessssssssss
Melkor
2024-01-04 02:33:29 +0000 UTCOkay, time for me to start posting my essays - I mean comments.
cosmotron
2024-01-04 02:29:11 +0000 UTC
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