Mr Robot 4x07 Reaction
Added 2023-03-28 21:18:34 +0000 UTCyeah..
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Pate
2023-04-06 06:14:49 +0000 UTCGood point, strangely where I live if you respond with "violence" you're the bad guy! But I'm not sure about the US, I assume you guys can make a stand right?
Dustywood
2023-03-30 21:34:16 +0000 UTCVera's philosophy at its core seems to be "Use your trauma and past as fuel to do whatever you want, morals be damned". It's something he says as early as his first episode, where he talks about self-hate being true power. And now here, where he talks about his own past with sexual abuse, attempted suicide, and trauma, but ultimately he's also a rapist, a murderer, and an idiot thug who happens to be extremely manipulative and well-spoken. Elliot on the other hand has mostly turned his trauma outwards, seeking to "save the world" and take down the assholes who hurt others, whether they be a global conspiracy of cultists or a child porn dealer. It's fascinating to see how both of them are rooted in the same type of abuse but turned out completely differently. Vera wanted to make Elliot "the storm", aka exactly like the people who hurt Elliot. But it's ultimately Krista, the kind woman who helped Elliot for so long, who snaps him out of it
Myeh
2023-03-30 20:32:40 +0000 UTCThat's wild. But also, is the relevant thing here really the home invading part? I feel like the "kidnapping you, holding you hostage and holding a gun to your head" is a lot more important here and seems to be unquestionably self defense. But I dont know anything about the law so maybe I'm wrong?
tom
2023-03-30 14:15:12 +0000 UTCno problem. just wanted to make sure it was you. lately theres many weird accounts requesting to follow. just followed you back.
sand_fl
2023-03-30 10:32:04 +0000 UTCThey actually shot this episode like a stage play. Each act was shot in a single run with multiple cameras running at the same time filming the performance on the soundstage
autumn
2023-03-29 23:11:39 +0000 UTCNot sure if someone else already pointed out or if you corrected yourself in the post review, but Krista has every right to defend herself in her own home, she is safe to go to the police over something like this - there's no need to "hide the body". I'm not a US citizen, but I do understand that American's have the right to defend their property and make a stand against a violent intruder. I could be wrong if an American wants to correct me, but this is my understanding of US law. Unlike my country, where if you have a home invader, and if you injure that home invader, you can go to jail / you can be the one facing fines or penalties. If you kill a home invader in New Zealand, you'll go to jail for 10-15 years.
Dustywood
2023-03-29 23:10:10 +0000 UTCThanks for sharing, this isn't a subject that I have much knowledge or experience around, and I have often viewed this show as a good outlet for providing accurate behaviours based on specific mental health issues or childhood experiences - so for those that have unfortunately had this experience I hope at the very least the show does a positive service in shedding light on a subject that many people (such as myself) may or may not understand. I hope you're doing well outside of all of this, and I hope to see you continue on the Mr. Robot journey as I genuinely have always enjoyed reading your commentary - hope this doesn't "put you off" the series in anyway. You're brave enough to write that out, there isn't anything I can think of to say other than thanks for sharing your story with us - and I honestly hope you're doing well outside of all of this. Big respect to you and the one other person in the above comments that also shared something similar.
Dustywood
2023-03-29 23:07:13 +0000 UTC@sand_fl yes, the octopus. I just didn't want to share my twitter handle on here as it's my real name. It's the one with the octopus and they/them pronouns.
TeaDrinker3000
2023-03-29 22:32:33 +0000 UTCThank you for sharing 💖
Kara
2023-03-29 21:21:39 +0000 UTCare you the one with an octopus on the name or the one with a pp of the kid from spy x family? i have a few requests and those two are the ones that appear as the most recent.
sand_fl
2023-03-29 21:03:11 +0000 UTC@sand_fl I sent you a request earlier on Twitter, it's under my real name in case you're wondering who it is.
TeaDrinker3000
2023-03-29 20:31:34 +0000 UTC♥️ you guys. I had to take week break after this episode cus it was too much and I never do that. So phenomenally done I’ll never forget watching this live for the first time
Matt
2023-03-29 18:35:36 +0000 UTCI was going to leave this comment on the video comments section only, but then thought if it helps someone here reading it, for catharsis, then I'll paste it here: I'm a survivor of this shit too. I too had "that talk" through therapy that helped me realise what I'd been through. I was molested. Even just to type those 3 words has taken a lot out of me. Most of the time when I watch material pertaining to this subject matter, including in this show, I'm able to emotionally distance myself. This took me off guard, got under my skin. I was saying "no no no" hoping that it wasn't going to be the revelation it was going to be. I am fucking heartbroken over this episode. It's taking me several minutes to collect myself between sentences just to try and write this out, but I need people to know that if you're lucky enough to have not gone through this, don't ever take it for granted. I wouldn't wish this on anyone, not even those who perpetrate the crime. Anyone else who's been through this, I got your back. I don't know what else to say. I wish I could make a more eloquent point. It's just so fucking painful.
TeaDrinker3000
2023-03-29 17:30:30 +0000 UTCThanks, same to you. I'm @dykeinspace on twitter but i'm mostly in private there if you ever want to send a request just tell me your @. i'm not sure where you mean so just in case. yeah, it's a shitty situation because everyone deals with it differently and some don't deal with it at all. i'm at a point where i can talk about it a bit online with people i don't know but i've never been able to talk about it with another person face to face, which sucks because i think it would help, specially with a therapist, but i guess time will tell. this happened like 15 years ago and it's still something awful to deal with, so idk. yeah, definetly rami did a wonderful job portraying it, but as i said, everyone's experience is different and how they deal with it too. it definitely broke my heart watching him realise it because for years i was too in denial.
sand_fl
2023-03-29 17:22:25 +0000 UTCI really wish I could articulate myself better on the subject. I left a comment on the main video that's a bit more detailed but I'm honestly finding it hard to navigate my emotions. Kudos to the episode for doing that, all the same. Malik's acting was amazing but I just feel so fucking heartbroken right now because I feel as though I know this character, it's impossible to not feel shattered for him. You're under no obligation whatsoever to talk but if you ever do, I'm DaleCooper #9919 , if you need someone to talk to. I'll promise I'll respond. We got to stick together coz I know how hard this is.
TeaDrinker3000
2023-03-29 17:01:03 +0000 UTC@TeaDrinker3000 i'm sad to see that even in this 'conmunity' theres at least 2 of us that have gone through this.
sand_fl
2023-03-29 16:51:44 +0000 UTCInteresting fact: When they were doing the table read for this episode only the actors in this episode were present, everyone else was told to leave.
Adam
2023-03-29 16:37:48 +0000 UTCMe too, Sand.
TeaDrinker3000
2023-03-29 16:26:09 +0000 UTCSadly it got 1-star review bombed by petty people that want to see their show on top..
Slaizio
2023-03-29 12:54:00 +0000 UTCYes, but it's also never really been a widely used tool in science either. It has reached mass popularity as a cultural device, not a psychiatric one. Whether or not it is empirically sound, it's still a useful framework or guide for average people to approach grief and help cope with and rationalise the seemingly irrational emotions they may be having. It's true function is more as a tool to help grieving, rather than an accurate description of it.
braaap
2023-03-29 10:52:42 +0000 UTCRami is theatre trained and he did plays before tv & movies so I would imagine that that helped him greatly.
Wanda Did Nothing Wrong
2023-03-29 10:24:17 +0000 UTCYeah Lola’s intuition and Milena’s theorizing is a crazy combo. Milena will throw out ideas and Lola latches onto the right one nearly every time. Though it’s helpful when you have people to bounce ideas off of as opposed to just watching/binging the show alone. Reddit is a great of example of this where the subreddits almost always predict important plot points through discussion. This has happened with me too in the shows I’ve watched with other people whereas normally I just turn my brain off and enjoy the ride.
Ekaj Ex
2023-03-29 10:11:32 +0000 UTCI have it listed as the 20th highest rated episode on IMDB but I agree that it should be the 2nd.
Ekaj Ex
2023-03-29 09:54:23 +0000 UTCYeah, this episode is one of a kind. It is so harrowing it hurts. The structure is so simple, yet extremely powerful. The only other episode that affected me this much is the final one of the show.
Adam
2023-03-29 09:26:51 +0000 UTCEspecially knowing that Rami did that entire reveal scene in one take, no interruptions, just raw filming, then the aftermath and having him exposed with raw emotions whilst not breaking character or having a scene cut - I can't imagine how he must of felt during the filming of that one take scene. The amount of energy he must of poured into that scene, it would have been difficult to recreate it if he accidentally missed a line or made a mistake - one of the best performances I've ever seen in my life.
Dustywood
2023-03-29 08:07:51 +0000 UTCIncredible actor, absolutely phenomenal
Dustywood
2023-03-29 08:04:21 +0000 UTCAs somebody who didn't see the twist coming...like at all, this episode was the biggest "wtf" moment of my life. I felt violated. I also remember thinking that, to me, this is what Rami really won the Oscar for. That performance was so raw I felt it was a disservice to call it a "performance", he went somewhere real for that.
Ice
2023-03-29 04:43:36 +0000 UTCEdited - Yeah I don't think the camera had any substance, but the protection of Darlene is a trait we see consistently, for example two episodes ago in the special silent episode he sacrifices himself again for Darlene with the security guard at the door by running directly into danger. Similar to how he protected Darlene from the monster, he has always sacrificed himself for his sister - another memory is when he's breaking Vera out of jail and sacrificing himself for Darlene when she "seduces" the police officer during the hack preparation.
Dustywood
2023-03-29 04:28:58 +0000 UTCSam did such a beautiful job eliciting our emotions alongside Elliot. The nagging feeling persisting through the seasons that *something* is off with Mr. Robot/Elliot's dad (but what?!). Building to this episiode, where the filmography tells us the moment is coming, eliciting a deep dread. When the moment arrives, we feel the hints but push them away because the reality is too much. Finally, after the overwhelming emotions, we are guided through the stages of grief alongside Elliot as he grasps his new reality.
Kevin McDonough
2023-03-29 03:37:05 +0000 UTCThe 2nd highest rated episode of television on IMDB (Ozymandias being 1st).
Michael M
2023-03-29 03:17:02 +0000 UTCAs much as i loved this episode, it is time to point out that there are no 5 stages of grief. i absolutely despise pop-sci reporting. 5 stages is absolute gobly-de-gook and utter lie. The person who came up with this "theory", Elisabeth Kübler-Ross had once publically apologized that she came up with it with no data, no backing, no evidence and considers 5 model as biggest mistake of her career. Grief is not something so simple that can be neatly packed into 5 stages of predictable development. No reseach has ever proved that 5 stages of grief exist.
Vivasvan Gautam
2023-03-29 02:34:11 +0000 UTCThis episode is one heck of an experience
Brad Johnson
2023-03-29 02:20:50 +0000 UTCDidn’t understand a thing! 😂
Agitprop
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Myeh
2023-03-29 02:01:29 +0000 UTCI'm just not sure. I'll comment again after viewing Friday/Saturday's episode and see if I have a better grasp.
Isaac
2023-03-29 01:41:46 +0000 UTCincredible episode and reaction, I didnt see it coming, but I didnt go on reddit for the final season really, so I didnt see any theories.
T0ast
2023-03-29 00:50:58 +0000 UTCeh i dont think its suggested darlene at all.
T0ast
2023-03-29 00:48:43 +0000 UTCV qba'g guvax guvf gurbel vf grkghnyyl fhccbegrq ol gur fubj. Gur 'jvaqbj vapvqrag' gnxrf cynpr va Bpgbore 1994. Rqjneq zhfg unir orra frevnyyl nohfvir orsber guvf vapvqrag. Rqjneq qvrf va Sroehnel 1995. Ryyvbg trgf vagb n svtug ng fpubby (naq fhofrdhragyl anzrf gur Ze Ebobg fgber) fubegyl orsber Bpgbore 1994. Jr pna'g xabj gur gvzryvar orsber gung ohg V qba'g crefbanyyl guvax gur nohfr fgnegrq whfg orsber Ze Ebobg, V guvax vg'f orra batbvat sbe n juvyr. Ng gur oner zvavzhz, gur Jvaqbj Fprar, gur Zbivr Gurnger Fprar, gur Natryn Qrngu Cnegl fprar naq gur 'Ze Ebobg' pbzchgre fgber fprar nyy gnxr cynpr nsgre fbzr sbez bs nohfr unf unccrarq. VZB jura Ze Ebobg fnlf gung yvar nobhg fubjvat zrzbevrf sebz orsber, ur zrnaf fghss jr qba'g frr gung gur znfgrezvaq (guvaxvat ur vf ryyvbg) erzrzoref. ZZ erzrzoref ryyvbg'f puvyqubbq, whfg svygrerq. V'z cerggl fher rirelguvat jr frr vf, hasbeghangryl, nsgre fbzr sbez bs nohfr unf bppheerq. Ng gur zbfg, gur pne fprar (anzvat Ze Ebobg fgber) pbhyq or sebz orsber. Rirelguvat ryfr unf gb or nsgre, hayrff V'z sbetrggvat n fprar.
Kara
2023-03-29 00:46:28 +0000 UTCI never noticed that. Thanks for sharing.
Kara
2023-03-29 00:30:31 +0000 UTCV'z abg fb fher nobhg gung. Va 408 Ze. Ebobg fnlf ur gevrq gb fubj uvz zrzbevrf sebz orsber "jura gurl jrer sevraqf". Va zl bcvavba, V oryvrir Rqjneq pnirq gb uvf jrnxarff nf uvf fvpxarff cebterffrq.
Isaac
2023-03-29 00:29:58 +0000 UTCI knew this episode was gonna be tough but honestly really good reaction and analysis. Not a whole lot of people realized or theorized what you did about it— it was honestly much more of a shock to them, myself included. It always impressed me how quickly you caught the red flags. Honestly just incredibly brutal stuff. But props to all four major performers in this episode, they all performed masterfully and Elliot Villar needs to be in more things
Myeh
2023-03-29 00:29:39 +0000 UTCV'z abg fb fher nobhg gung. Va 408 Ze. Ebobg fnlf ur gevrq gb fubj uvz zrzbevrf sebz orsber "jura gurl jrer sevraqf". Va zl bcvavba, V oryvrir Rqjneq pnirq gb uvf jrnxarff nf uvf fvpxarff cebterffrq.
Isaac
2023-03-29 00:29:24 +0000 UTCanother amazing thing about vera's death is that it was the knife that killed Shayla that got him. Krista was his aluminum bat but once he broke Elliot the bat swung back and got him
Myeh
2023-03-29 00:13:48 +0000 UTCThis was an all-time great reaction. As hard as it was for you to watch, it was so enjoyable and cathartic to rewatch along. Despite essentially knowing it was coming, this reveal still confirms and reframes the whole show. Every scene with Edward (Elliot's Dad) in a flashback, that was an abuser. Every scene with Mr Robot, that was the personality created to protect Elliot from that abuse, while looking exactly like the abuser. A lot of scenes feel very different knowing this is 100% true. There are so many fantastic moments this ep but I'll highlight the Vera/Mr Robot scene. I've watched it a ton on YouTube and you can see the subtle choices that Mr Robot makes while being his sarcastic, rebellious anticapitalist self. It's peak "Mr Robot" as an idea and his rhetoric almost works. And then under everything you see that Mr Robot is trying to protect Elliot (and by extension Krista) here. It's a lot of bluster and aggression and irony and rebellion. It's the exact sort of personality your mind might create to protect you from hard truths. It's the guy you want in your corner, afraid of nothing, willing to do anything - no fear, no shame, no grace. This is what Mr Robot has always been from Ep 1. All the acting is unbelievably good but I'll shoutout Gloria Rueben again because she plays a perfect supporting role here, it's pure, it's empathetic, it's terrified but resilient. Elliot and Vera and Mr Robot get the spotlight but Krista is there to facilitate and make everything believable even when the show is at its most theatrical. I cry every time when she asks that penultimate question. What a good show! And it's not over yet!
Kara
2023-03-28 23:44:20 +0000 UTCFrom a comment that I once read. These 5 Acts correspond with the stages of grief: Stage 1: Denial - Elliot is in denial about the whole situation Stage 2: Anger - Mr. Robot goes in on Vera Stage 3: Bargaining - Elliot bargains for Krista's life Stage 4: Depression - The whole twist Stage 5: Acceptance - Vera helped him accept what happened
Juan Manuel Brossa
2023-03-28 23:31:59 +0000 UTCWhen I watched it again, it seemed to me that my father was making a video between him and his sister, this is hinted at by the fact that he tried to protect Darlene that day, the attention on the camera, and the fact that he kissed her in season 1 and her reaction ("You forgot again ?") served as a trigger for the first explanation, although she hardly remembers episodes from her childhood because she was 4 and he was 9, but this definitely affected her psychological health.
Денис Кабанцов
2023-03-28 23:26:36 +0000 UTCOn the last thing yous mentioned about how someone would feel if they didn’t see it coming, I had no clue basically until Krista said why were you afraid of your father It was a big shell shock moment and I feel like it made the episode better too, rather than in your case where you seem to be able to see the future sometimes (lol), maybe the anticipation took away from the reveal a bit Even at that, yous agree that it’s one of the best episodes of any show you’ve seen so it highlights how great it was executed whether you expected it or not
JATLA
2023-03-28 23:15:13 +0000 UTCNow we are really close to the end…It’s a good thing that you girls saw it coming… I didn’t, and every reaction I saw didn’t ether, that shows how smart you girls are. Later I learned that most of people that has DID is because of sexual abuse when they were young…so for anybody that knows psychology it would be pretty obvious. After this episode, then thinking of all the flash backs of Elliot and his father feel so sick…like him being complicit with E stealing the money in the computer shop, how they go and see Pulp fiction (not appropriate for E age) how they talked about “their secret”, Elliot telling him in the movies that he is sick and he wouldn’t admite it (now we know how sick he was…). How is talked in the show about “his monster”. Even that little scene with Angela in her mums party is very sickening. Every little detail is been taking care of in this show. Anyway…I would resume this episode with Vera sentence “I see you now” now we all, even elliot, sees him. Greetings from Madrid!
Agitprop
2023-03-28 23:05:58 +0000 UTC"You get Hoynes!" We're name-dropping Fringe and West Wing in this one. (by the way you're watching Fringe and not sharing with the class, sadge - even if you've seen it before) Yeah, I think you figured it out before you're really supposed to, I remember you guessing it a while back which I think is the downside of digging in and really thinking about what's going on -- it's supposed to hit you like a freight train. Not that there's a way you're going to be able to watch that and not be shocked by it, and the exceptional acting is a sight to see in it's own right, but it's like when Elliot realises Darlene is his sister: you're not really supposed to have the slightest clue until Elliot figures it out. "You're sick, and you just don't want to admit it" - watch that scene again now you know it for a fact, rot13 crew were talking about it in the comments of that reaction, it absolutely makes your skin crawl going back. I bet you don't know what's coming next :) But yeah, the acting from everybody in this one is exceptional even by the show's high standards, but I thought (and still think) Elliot Villar really shined in this episode. The part where Mr Robot says "I can't protect you any more" gave me goosebumps when I first saw this episode. Anyway, what's next? (sorry, had to drop a WW reference in there)
Martin Nicholls
2023-03-28 22:55:48 +0000 UTCwell, it was what i was expecting but still hit me hard. as someone whose been sexually abused as a child it's really hard for me to watch these things. i guess my only saving grace is it was not by any of my parents, which i suppose it must be even more wrecking. fansatic work by all the actors by especially by te one that plays vera. anyway, i guess i'll watch the discussion tomorrow because by head started hurting and my eyes kinda hurt too. i can see why thi is considered the best episode but damn, how i wish it turned out to be different even if it ended up being worse in terms of quality of storytelling.
sand_fl
2023-03-28 22:52:07 +0000 UTCWhat an episode, agree with being one of the top episodes of all time! Few people have mentioned before, the five acts in this episode represent the five stages of grief: 1) Denial - Calling Vera Stupid, denying his goal 2) Anger - Mr. Robot being Mr. Robot 3) Bargaining - Begging Vera not to kill Krista 4) Depression - Elliot finding out about his dad 5) Acceptance - Elliot coming to terms with Vera
Roque Orellana
2023-03-28 22:49:20 +0000 UTC407: Proxy Authentication Required Like Lola mentioned, when Krista first asked Elliot about this event, he could not remember(he was even in the same pose during that Season 3 episode). It took Vera's intervention to authorize access to this horrible event...
Isaac
2023-03-28 22:41:32 +0000 UTCmy favorite episode. Vera was absolutely amazing.
Farbod
2023-03-28 22:28:31 +0000 UTCCan I get a round of applause for Elliot Villar and his portrayal of Fernando Vera. This guy...
Isaac
2023-03-28 21:38:37 +0000 UTC@ramiro not really, but i know i'm going to cry either way so at least i'm aware i'm going to suffer
sand_fl
2023-03-28 21:38:32 +0000 UTCThis episode is incredible, crazy to think it's also a bottle episode
Dominic Logan
2023-03-28 21:37:34 +0000 UTCIn the very first scene of Mr. Robot (1x01) Elliot hacked a man who distributed child pornography. Elliot never wanting to be hugged or touched. The anti-social behavior. The loneliness. Everything has its reason
Juan Manuel Brossa
2023-03-28 21:37:11 +0000 UTCIt hits so deep when he says don’t touch me to Vera after the reveal
JATLA
2023-03-28 21:33:52 +0000 UTCThis episode made me think this is the best show I’ve ever watched. I’ve been waiting for this reaction from yous ever since I saw the episode myself😅 Masterpiece
JATLA
2023-03-28 21:32:06 +0000 UTCI’m supposed to be at work for another 30 mins… guess it’s time to leave lmao. I’m not ready and I’ve seen this episode like 10 times
Dante
2023-03-28 21:31:20 +0000 UTCCrazy episode. The way its filmed, acted and how it recontextualizes the whole show especially the part about Elliot not wanting to be touched.
Slaizio
2023-03-28 21:30:21 +0000 UTCOh man I wasn't ready, let's do this
Isaac
2023-03-28 21:29:00 +0000 UTCThanks for pushing it out tonight with full length too!
Slaizio
2023-03-28 21:28:44 +0000 UTCAre u ready to cry? 😭
ramiro
2023-03-28 21:28:38 +0000 UTCjust grabbed the tissues, snacks and soda. i'm ready to be emotionally distraught. at lest i have my cat right besides me for moral support.
sand_fl
2023-03-28 21:28:24 +0000 UTCYeah..
wrnrbro
2023-03-28 21:27:45 +0000 UTCOh boy. This one is gonna be a doozy
Cody Pavy
2023-03-28 21:27:26 +0000 UTCit’s rough
LM Reactions
2023-03-28 21:26:15 +0000 UTCI think this is one ep I want to 100% watch the full ep along with the reaction but I won't have time til later so...until then just gotta ask. Hows it feel to be right
Myeh
2023-03-28 21:25:34 +0000 UTCin this chapter I understood why elliot doesn't like to be touched
ramiro
2023-03-28 21:25:14 +0000 UTCThat episode, f*ck. Goosebumps all over. A masterpiece
Juan Manuel Brossa
2023-03-28 21:25:04 +0000 UTCi've been waiting all day to watch this because this is apparently the best episode of the show and my capacity and pantience to wait for the full to watch it for the first time is surprising me. now that i've seen the thumbnail i'm terrified. will just have to wait and see. will go grab a box of tissues because it seems like i'll need them.
sand_fl
2023-03-28 21:24:27 +0000 UTCLet’s go!
Agitprop
2023-03-28 21:20:43 +0000 UTC
