Mr. Robot 4x04 Reaction
Added 2023-03-18 02:59:38 +0000 UTC
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Just entered patreon and watched this one. I don't know if anyone mantioned it yet, but apparently the blue/purple light that tyrell sees is a nod to tech people. bc that's the color of the 'windows screen of death', or 'VMware’s screen of death'. Something like that. So yeah, you can make your own conclusions.
Jjj.
2023-04-02 15:22:42 +0000 UTCYep! The first time I saw this I had recently just finished Sopranos on my own for the first time and was like "omg, this is EXACTLY that episode." Definitely a great homage imo.
Ron B
2023-03-19 21:11:49 +0000 UTCYou girls need a new tv, you cant see any dark scene lol
Pulp
2023-03-19 21:02:39 +0000 UTCI agree. I suspect if S1 of the show were produced in 2023 rather than 2015 the subtext (Mr Robot literally calls it this) would be more text. It could have injected some really juicy interesting stuff in the show to have Elliot be straight and Mr Robot be gay or bi and genuinely romantically interested in Tyrell. It would have been tough to navigate but I think they navigated the trans stuff quite well, and based off my research some years back I believe different alters of people with DID or pluralism can have different sexualities and gender identities.
Kara
2023-03-19 01:12:48 +0000 UTCoddly mr robot has always read more queer to me than Elliot, him grinning when Tyrell is about to beat him up probably contributes to that
Myeh
2023-03-19 01:00:34 +0000 UTCCrazy memory you got there to remember that it was a recurrent dream of Dom back from Season 2! I honestly just realized when I got that point rewatching with you. If this is the end for Tyrell, it really is poetic, because his whole arc is about him trying to affirm himself as someone important, even a god, and yet he would die an unremarkable death in the biggest scheme of things, finally accepting his role as just somebody who didn't really matter that much.
thelumpur
2023-03-18 22:15:38 +0000 UTCrot13 full season spoilers: Pnyyvat vg Gleryy'f Svany Qrngu Fprar pbasvezf gung ur'f qrnq naq abg ergheavat (ng yrnfg abg nyvir). Guvf vf fbzrguvat Ybyn naq Zvyran vasreerq nyernql ohg vg rffragvnyyl pbasvezf vg. Ubjrire bgure crbcyr pbzzragrq gur fnzr guvat yby fb vg'f onfvpnyyl bhg gur ont abj, naq vg'f abg gung onq.
Kara
2023-03-18 15:40:42 +0000 UTCI like that you pointed out that the episode was very weird because Tyrell is very weird. I believe Sam explicitly stated they wanted Tyrell's "goodbye" ep to be just as weird and surreal as the character himself
Myeh
2023-03-18 14:12:46 +0000 UTCI love this episode so much. The "Pine Barrens" episode of The Sopranos is my favourite episode of any TV show ever, so I was super excited when I first saw this and realized how much inspiration they were taking from it. A lot of shows have paid homage to The Sopranos in various ways over the years, but this is one of the best.
Rynsen
2023-03-18 11:56:14 +0000 UTCLrnu gung znxrf frafr. V jnf n yvggyr fgbarq jura V jebgr gung fb V jnf qrsvavgryl bireguvaxvat. Shaal pbvapvqrapr gubhtu.
Ekaj Ex
2023-03-18 10:59:05 +0000 UTCV jbhyq abg bireguvax gung. Pnegbba punenpgref nyjnlf jrne gur rknpg fnzr bhgsvg orpnhfr vg znqr vg rnfvre gb er-hfr navzngvba pryyf, yvxr n jnyx plpyr, bire naq bire, sebz bar rcvfbqr gb gur arkg juvpu fnirf pbfgf. Ryyvbg jrnef gur fnzr bhgsvg sbe nyzbfg nyy bs gur fubj naq Gleryy oebhtug nggragvba gb gung qrgnvy. V jbhyq pbhag gung nf sberfunqbjvat naq Ybyn whfg pbzzragrq gung vgf yvxr n pnegbba punenpgre.
Slaizio
2023-03-18 09:34:43 +0000 UTCV nterr ba fbzr cnegf ohg jvgu rcvfbqr 12 lbh tbg gb snpgbe va gung gur pnfhny ivrjre qbrf abg xabj jung vf unccravat naq zvtug or guvaxvat gung juvgrebfr znpuvar jbexrq naq jr frr na nygreangr ernyvgl bs Ryyvbg. Gur nhqvrapr arrqrq na rcvfbqr sebz gur znfgrezvaqf crefcrpgvir. Sbe uvz gb aneengr naq thrff naq gura fybjyl pbzr gb gur evtug nafjre. Gur yvggyr zlfgrel frghc naq cnlbss vf n znggre bs gnfgr. Ohg gur fubj unf nyjnlf unq n fglyr gung vf n yvggyr cergragvbhf. Gur bcvavbangrq pbzzragnevrf ba fbpvrgl, gur pvarzngbtencul, yvarf yvxr "V'z unpxvat gur SOV", rira gur pber cybg bs gur fubj (gnxvat qbja gur bar creprag bs gur bar creprag). V guvax gung znxrf gur fubj havdhr naq V ybir vg ertneqyrff be znlor rira orpnhfr bs vg.
Slaizio
2023-03-18 09:29:54 +0000 UTCROT13: Qvq nalbar ryfr abgvpr Ybyn ersreevat gb Ryyvbg nf n “pnegbba punenpgre”? Vg unccrarq qhevat gur pbairefngvba orgjrra Gleryy naq Ryyvbg va gur jbbqf nsgre Gleryy fnvq ur qvqa’g haqrefgnaq jul Ryyvbg qerffrq gung jnl. Nebhaq 17:30. Irel jrveq fvapr gung’f onfvpnyyl jung ZZ vf naq jul ur vf qerffrq gung jnl. V ubcr gur erirny jnfa’g fcbvyrq sbe gurz orpnhfr V jbhyqa’g guvax gb qrfpevor Ryyvbg nf n pnegbba punenpgre hagvy lbh xabj gung’f rffragvnyyl jurer ur pnzr sebz.
Ekaj Ex
2023-03-18 09:28:30 +0000 UTCI agree that it served the purpose of developing the relationship between them and it did that rather well too. But the story is actually about the warden Ray and his darknet market and bringing him down. The character development is the important part but you could have had that inside of the main story. Their fighting for control and Mr. Robot helping Elliot by taking the punches and all that could have happend inside a narrative that is essential to the whole story. Instead it happens in a sub plot that is not particularly relevant. I actually loved the reveal and the interactions between Elliot and Mr. Robot. I just think that after the 5/9 hack, that we did not see, the main character should not be locked up with scarcely any contact to the rest of the cast and story. And have half a season of sub plot instead of being the engine of the main story. But its not that big of a deal. I love the show either way.
Slaizio
2023-03-18 09:14:32 +0000 UTCwhy do you think prison in season 2 was a filler? It did serve a purpose to develop Elliot/Mr Robot relationship pretty well
terrier
2023-03-18 09:03:30 +0000 UTCV qba'g trg jul crbcyr erfcbaq gb ybj pbzcnengvir enaxvatf jvgu "V guvax vg'f haqreengrq". V qba'g guvax rvgure vf n onq rcvfbqr, ohg hayrff rirel rcvfbqr vf rdhny gb lbh, bar nyjnlf unf gb or ng gur obggbz lbh xabj. Gra naq gjryir obgu srry bire vaqhytrag. Vg frrzf yvxr n ulcbpevgvpny guvat gb fnl nobhg Ze Ebobg juvpu guevirf ba gung -- ubj pna F2 or zl snibevgr vs V pner nobhg guvf? -- ohg vg'f uneq sbe zr gb frr vg nf orvat zbzrag-ol-zbzrag shysvyyvat. V yvxr jurer rcvfbqr gra raqf hc naq ubj vg erfbyirf gur qlanzvp orgjrra Qbz naq Qneyrar, ohg vg srryf yvxr vg zrnaqref n ybg gb trg gurer. Naq V srry fvzvyne nobhg Ryyvbg/Znfgrezvaq rkcybevat uvf vaare jbeyq. Vg srryf yvxr n ybg bs gur jevgvat vf onaxvat ba crbcyr orvat vairfgrq va gur zlfgrel bs rcvfbqr ryrira naq jung guvatf yvxr gur zvffrq pnyyf, qebccrq cubar naq tynff va gur genfu ner. Fb rcvfbqr gjryir fybjyl 'nafjref' gubfr zlfgrevrf, ohg vg'f yvxr jub pnerf? V qba'g xabj. Fznyy guvatf yvxr Ryyvbg/ZZ gnyxvat gb uvf zbz naq gur fghss jvgu Natryn vf bxnl, ohg V'z cerggl oberq jngpuvat uvz jnyx nebhaq rireljurer dhvrgyl gb ergenpr gur fgrcf naq pngpu onpx hc jvgu cebterff jr nyernql tbg hc gb va rcvfbqr ryrira jura jr sbyybjrq Erny Ryyvbg. Cyhf, V svaq gur wbheanyf bs Erny Ryyvbg qenjvat fghss sebz 'gur erny jbeyq' gb or ernyyl pevatr naq pyvpur. Naq gur pbairavrapr bs uvz nppvqragnyyl uvggvat uvf urnq fb gura ZZ qrpvqrf gb fhssbpngr uvz srryf nyzbfg cngurgvp, yvxr vs lbh'er tbaan unir ZZ gel gb xvyy Ryyvbg gura tb guebhtu jvgu vg engure guna univat Ryyvbg onfvpnyyl oyrrq bhg naljnl, lbh xabj.
tom
2023-03-18 08:53:53 +0000 UTCOh! I didn’t remember it like that. I’ll check it…anyway it represents very well Doms fears an attitude in life.
Agitprop
2023-03-18 08:49:04 +0000 UTCDom's colleague is the one with the dream, not her
tom
2023-03-18 08:47:03 +0000 UTCAbout Doms dream…when she was in China when the shooting she told a colleague about a dream she has…and it was that. Also she tells Angela in her apartment when she goes to give her advice that you have to let go…the moment you stop fighting is when you get control and survive. This is much Doms problem…she is a control freak and she has a problem letting go.
Agitprop
2023-03-18 08:22:15 +0000 UTCNice little episode. Checking the mental state of everyone…
Agitprop
2023-03-18 08:12:53 +0000 UTCYeah, I do agree with Tom here - I was a little confused at that too. There's a few more very "dark" scenes coming up (dark as in brightness) - and one that is almost in complete darkness so hopefully they work out their brightness issues / or potentially darken their room when watching the series to avoid natural light interference
Dustywood
2023-03-18 07:32:01 +0000 UTCV pna frr gur qvfyvxr bs rcfvbqr 10 ("tbar") orpnhfr vgf gbar vf fb qvssrerag sebz gur erfg bs gur fubj naq jr znxr guvf fhqqra ghea njnl sebz gur znva fgbel. Ohg V guvax vg freirf vgf checbfr ol tvivat Qbz naq Qneyrar fbzr fperragvzr naq pybfher nsgre rirelguvat gung unccraq orsber gur fubj raqf va gur ynfg guerr. Ohg V pna abg frr gur qvfyvxr bs rcvfbqr 12 ("jubnzv"). Gur ynfg gjb ner va zl gbc 5 rcvfbqrf naq ernyyl jryy znqr va zl bcvavba. Jung qvq lbh abg yvxr nobhg rcvfbqr 12? Jul qbrf vg enax fb ybj?
Slaizio
2023-03-18 07:30:51 +0000 UTCI have not watched the reaction yet so I dont know whether you adress this or not. But I wanted to ask what do you think of Angelas death now after having seen a couple more episodes? In the beginning you two mentioned how her death affected your enjoyment of the show. Is that still the case? I think Lola mentioned that she hates it when a character dies for the motivation of another character. If the character dying is female there is even a term for it called fridging (women in refrigerators). I do not think it applies to Mr. Robot because her story was heading in that direction anyway and it influences many characters besides Elliot. But I'm curious about your opinions, maybe you can talk about that in a future discussion.
Slaizio
2023-03-18 07:25:06 +0000 UTCWith the end of this episode I can talk about the three main things I dont like about this show. 1. The sudden end of Angelas story. It was probably not Sams vision to have it end this way but it is what we got and its a shame that we did not get a more complete story arc for her. 2. The end of Tyrells story arc is underwhelming and is of little importance to the main story. With him being almost a "second protagonist" at times and a driving force for the main story for half the show I expected a bit more. 3. Filler sub plots. Shayla/Vera in season 1, the prison in season 2, Joanna at times. From what I can tell most of those self contained story lines that are not directly part of the overall story are mainly there to have enough content for a season. But that is just my opinion. Fortunately the second half of season 4 more than makes up for those three points and overall the show ranks in my top 10.
Slaizio
2023-03-18 07:18:44 +0000 UTCUnpopular opinion maybe, but this is probably my least favorite episode of the season. ROT 13 season spoilers: Pybfr frpbaq vf rvgure gra be gjryir.
tom
2023-03-18 06:58:03 +0000 UTCI know the spam about fixing your brightness must be getting annoying but Tyrell definitely didn't 'kick' him, idk how you saw that haha
tom
2023-03-18 06:56:58 +0000 UTCHey, so here's the suggestion that may sound completely out of left field but you ladies are obviously into all different kinds of music - have you ever considered doing reactions to music albums? The reason I'm asking is because Lana del Rey's new album is coming out next week, and based on the few singles already released promises to be a serious contender for album of the year. She's a great storyteller and it feels like her music is right up your alley, so maybe it's something you could consider doing a reaction to :p
Andrew
2023-03-18 06:27:46 +0000 UTCTyrell had a hammer in his hand if I remember correctly, pro tip: never get hit in the head with a simple hammer, skulls be pretty fragile only takes one blow.
hrcaffee
2023-03-18 06:11:33 +0000 UTCI don't see anything spoilery about it myself, don't quite understand how you're connecting this to a spoiler?
Dustywood
2023-03-18 05:50:52 +0000 UTCAnother great reaction! Definitely a "different" episode but I love the vibe. One thing I appreciated this time through was the cinematography - some of the shots were so beautiful I had to pause the sync lmao. I've found these reactions have helped me focus a lot more on that, maybe cuz I've watched through so many times, maybe cuz the discussion helps focus me on visuals, not sure. Your discussion on Tyrell is funny and how a lot of people think imo. He is a complex character but I think it's dope he chooses to wander off into the woods after being shot just to give Elliot the chance of keeping going. It's an incredibly selfless move for a character who was motivated by selfishness in so many scenes we watched him in. He is probably (as Elliot observes) the only person on the planet who likes (loves) "Elliot" - Elliot AND Mr Robot. One of my few criticisms of this (imo brilliant, 10/10) show is that they didn't codify the relationship between Tyrell and Mr Robot more. I think it would have been more interesting to make the subtext text. I love that we get more insight into how Darlene and Elliot feel about each other. Their relationship is deeply complex and relatable to a lot of people I think. It's interesting to see them process the trauma of their shared upbringing in their own ways. This show is, if nothing else, an excellent advert for 'seeing a good therapist'.
Kara
2023-03-18 05:09:24 +0000 UTCOf course :)
Dominic Logan
2023-03-18 04:58:19 +0000 UTCI consider this a spoiler by implication fyi - you're spoiling that something doesn't happen in the rest of the episodes by omission / implication
Kara
2023-03-18 04:54:14 +0000 UTCSomeone had to say it, thanks for being the one
Kara
2023-03-18 04:52:48 +0000 UTCI hope you girls can make a video about top 10 characters and shows or a tier list that would be awesome. No pressure tho that’s only if you have time :)
Jay
2023-03-18 04:47:18 +0000 UTCAhh, good, because I have always wondered about this as I've never understood Tyrell's final death scene - was hoping to hear some theories on it from here. I'll await the finale
Dustywood
2023-03-18 04:25:57 +0000 UTCTobias literally steals this episode, I just love the part after Darlene spills her heart out and he's just like "Okay....." Probably one of my favourite random "NPC like" side characters of the show.
Dustywood
2023-03-18 04:24:57 +0000 UTCAh yes. The Halloween episode with our favourite Santa, Tobias.
Prateek Mishra
2023-03-18 04:02:13 +0000 UTCDom told Angela about the dream sequence in this episode back in season 2 episode 9: "I had this dream, which if you know me is pretty rare. It was good at first, exciting. There was this beautiful woman, sexy even, but then man did it go downhill fast. By the end I was being choked under water. In that dream I had, when I was being drowned, it was when I stopped fighting it. When I finally let go and stopped struggling so much...that’s when I survived."
Dominic Logan
2023-03-18 04:01:09 +0000 UTCwhen you've finished the show there are great discussions on reddit about possible meanings of the blue light at the end of this episode. but avoid for now in case of other spoilers
Molly C
2023-03-18 03:46:32 +0000 UTCSo paranoid, it's kinda funny though :) This episode aired a couple of days before Halloween - it's a bunch of short horror stories I guess, more subtle than a Simpsons Halloween special though, and it does further the plot but yeah, you called it. I'd be more concerned about CO2 poisoning with that many candles lol. Just don't expect me to explain the end because I have *no clue* to this day, though my guess is it's either some Nordic thing about death I'm not familiar with or metaphorical in some way.. By the way he smashed him in the head with a very large hammer, which to be fair you'd usually expect to kill somebody -- but you should, y'know, check? Also yeah, Darlene and Dom need a therapist more than Elliot ever has :)
Martin Nicholls
2023-03-18 03:30:39 +0000 UTCeasily one of the most surreal eps of the series, it's worth noting that the dream Dom has she actually describes exactly to Angela back in season 2. "It was when I stopped struggling that I survived" this was an intentionally surreal episode, a lot of season 4 eps intentionally have different tones and a lot of varied interactions. I very much enjoy "Elliot and Tyrell in the woods" the episode, and something about Tyrell of all characters being the only one to have time to come to terms and accept his presumed death on his own terms tickles me
Myeh
2023-03-18 03:14:28 +0000 UTC
