#227: The 5th Annual Jeffrey Epstein Celebrity Telethon (feat. Felix Biederman, Liz Franczak, & Brace Belden)
Added 2024-10-25 05:06:45 +0000 UTC
How did the biggest American political scandal since 9/11 become Content Slop? Why do we have a school shooter-based economy? Is information real?
All this, and so much more, with legends @byyourlogic, @liz_franczak, and @TrueAnonPod.
At first I laughed at Brace for bitching about the vape but damn it actually is pretty annoying😆 Great episode, thanks guys
ug
2024-11-17 02:28:01 +0000 UTC
At around the 49:45 mark there's like 6 hits back to back and every consecutive hit was funnier
HATERSLAYER420
2024-11-08 21:12:37 +0000 UTC
it's the 12- or 13-part series about the PROMIS software scandal and the very sketchy death of Danny Casolaro, who was working on a huge investigation that pulled PROMIS together with loads of other shit, including Epstein long before anybody knew who he was – for some reason I can't remember the series title
Michael S. Judge
2024-11-05 21:19:35 +0000 UTC
MJ: Brace describing the dark force released into the world after Epstein’s murder sounds like your description of (a lot of things I think but in particular) the nuke in TP: the Return.
Lukas McCutcheon
2024-11-05 18:28:59 +0000 UTC
Brilliantly put
Lukas McCutcheon
2024-11-05 18:16:32 +0000 UTC
What was the Ghost Stories pod series recommended in this ep?
Caroline Dougherty
2024-11-05 12:55:03 +0000 UTC
Ok cheers dude.
John
2024-11-02 19:22:59 +0000 UTC
I don’t think they’re talking about leftists. They’re talking about generalized amorphous “apolitical” extremely online guys. I could be wrong tho.
Chris
2024-11-02 19:22:17 +0000 UTC
Can someone plse explain or give me an example of the type of leftist they describe as “i’m shizo” ? I’ve never seen it. I’m in ireland so maybe its on its way over here who knows …
John
2024-11-02 09:00:37 +0000 UTC
Felix vaped more in this episode than any other person has vaped in their entire lives.
Scott
2024-10-31 20:44:15 +0000 UTC
I was listening to this on a 5 hour flight and Felix vaping was killing me.
Paul Sirota
2024-10-29 17:48:38 +0000 UTC
Felix just vapes with a CPAP
Matt C
2024-10-29 15:27:46 +0000 UTC
enjoyed the subtle stereo panning !
Josh Brown
2024-10-29 13:19:08 +0000 UTC
The Darth Vader breathing added the perfect aural ambiance to this episode.
Matthew Krueger
2024-10-29 11:12:45 +0000 UTC
shit thanks for reminding me, i have that Flesh Simulator vid bookmarked but haven't watched it yet
Karl Childers
2024-10-28 21:32:30 +0000 UTC
Ghost Stories is great, though I would say to anyone looking to jump in that the PROMIS series may not be the best starting point. My first exposure to Matt’s stuff was the first PROMIS ep and I bounced off that hard—it was just very dry and technical, and I wasn’t locked into his more sedate energy yet. I would, tho, recommend his early episode on James Jesus Angleton. It’s self-contained, engaging, and gives a good feel for his whole vibe.
Ashley Naftule
2024-10-28 21:24:37 +0000 UTC
It aint fully slop until Epstine, played by kevin spacey, is a villain in a todd phillips comedy ... but I'm still waiting on a Hangover prequel where Bush, Johnson and Ford wake up one November 1963 morning in Dallas to find that they may have partied a little too hard.
Raznl
2024-10-28 20:50:35 +0000 UTC
Idk I think Programmed to Kill is a very fascinating book and a lot of subsequent research into the interconnectivity of the deep state and the serial killer phenomenon has brought it more credulity. Franklin Scandal, Aberration In the Heartland of the Real, and recently Eye of the Chickenhawk as well as Flesh Simulator’s video Serial Killing for Fun and Profit have a lot of concrete, annotated, FOIA’d, and publicly recorded information that are directly showing you that these dark power networks exist on paper and not just witness testimony. I find this stuff is interlinked with the P2 Lodge, Gladio, strategy of tension, Epstein, etc. all things that D/C has talked about or alluded too.
Not to dick ride Jimmy as I found the accusation of the “dirtbag leftist podnetwork” as an intelligence operation annoying and it detracted from his episodes, a lot of which were very well researched using historical documents.
I think my main difference of opinion with that sphere of parapoltics is the gnostic christian moral worldview.
As for Subliminal Jihad they ended up being way too fucking smarmy and on a listening level I found hard to enjoy, although their series on the history of Palestine and it’s oppression is decent. I feel like it was just disappointing to follow a bunch of these guys for their genuine interest and research into subjects I wanted to learn about and then see them throwing bitch fits on twitter lol
Pear Is A Patsy
2024-10-28 18:27:42 +0000 UTC
They got mad at him for having a successful podcast and not publicly disowning his friends.
Brendan Garcia
2024-10-27 23:04:32 +0000 UTC
Seconding (thirding?) the Ghost Stories for the End of the World rec. Also it's the podcast they mention at one point in this episode.
aerides
2024-10-27 18:17:42 +0000 UTC
jesus, i just ran "bloempie van eigen tuin" through google translate and if that's a euphemism for what i think it is then that's one of the most chilling phrases i've ever heard. if you're a fan of Death//Corner then i really can't recommend Ghost Stories enough, his work is excellent especially his series on Danny Casolaro & PROMIS which Michael alluded to in this episode.
Karl Childers
2024-10-27 17:39:42 +0000 UTC
Kind of alarming that nobody warned Felix of the hiss from an audible natural gas leak in his apartment. Fun ep though! It’s nice to hear Michael having a good time crackin wise
Percy Plump
2024-10-27 17:21:06 +0000 UTC
Thank you, that means the world. Was offline for a year due to sobriety and going through MSJ’s catalogue again for the second time.
Approaching it from the concept of “palenkind” or “bloempie van eigen tuin” again due to my mentor’s Indonesian heritage but I still need Epstein and the Dutroux case as focal points, navels, or ciphers.
ardenwezenberg@hotmail.com
2024-10-27 16:52:44 +0000 UTC
Ghost Stories For The End Of The World podcast just wrapped up an extraordinary series on this subject, i doubt there's very much that Michael or any other podcast could add to their coverage
Karl Childers
2024-10-27 16:43:01 +0000 UTC
Yeah I understand that. The Painting episodes are good because he just lets her talk the whole time and she basically outlines the entire book with some personal anecdotes of how she researched it and what her life was like while writing it. She is also on the Ghostbusters episode which I personally thought was not very good but I highly recommend the main interview. On the other hand, you could just read her book and skip the podcast as it's the same material.
As for his reliability, the others that I enjoyed were about the Templar and rosicrucians and freemasonry and the crusades. Again he has a guest who seems knowledgeable. But in truth I know nothing about those topics (and don't care THAT much) so who knows if it was all bunk.
But I'm listening to the United Fruit one now which is something I do know about and so far he's been accurate.
aerides
2024-10-27 16:39:47 +0000 UTC
incredible ep, but please share the gofundme to get Felix a mic cover
John Arena
2024-10-27 16:01:36 +0000 UTC
@MichaelSJudge will you or have you made anything on the Marc Dutroux case and the "roze baletten", or "pink ballets" and its connections to the Brabant Killers? And if not, do you have any suggestions research wise? Thank you for you and your brother's continued work. Lobi from Amsterdam.
ardenwezenberg@hotmail.com
2024-10-27 15:55:53 +0000 UTC
Where the streets have no name did make me burst out laughing god damn it
Juan Sacchi
2024-10-27 15:48:05 +0000 UTC
that wendy painting interview does sound fascinating, i might check that out. there's certainly something to be said for separating wheat from chaff but when someone displays such poor judgement in throwing around flimsy accusations and credulously repeating bunk it makes me have to question everything else they say too & then i can't trust anything they say without verifying it from other sources, at which point why bother with the crankish source in the first place
Karl Childers
2024-10-27 14:18:40 +0000 UTC
It didn't go anywhere bc the narrative, which I don't believe, is he "only" trafficked in teenage girls (which is horrific enough, but doesn't hit people like little kids and/or little boys), and they killed him pretty quickly. Which left a ton of dead ends that he never got to illuminate in court. Somehow he ran the biggest pedophile network on earth with no customers, which of course is bullshit but we can't prove it. All we have is a dead guy and a black book. The Belgian establishment has had great luck convincing its people that Dutroux was a "lone nut" but the investigation still went on a lot longer and gave them a harder time. They had all those 'X witnesses.' The American establishment nipped that shit right in the bud. All your average person can do is go "huh, that's weird."
JNG
2024-10-27 07:19:53 +0000 UTC
I've never understood the appeal of SJ. I tried a few episodes and can't get through it at all. Just innuendo like you say, and if you know anything about some of their topics, you really see the holes in it all. PTC had some good episodes. Ive listened to a handful. Dude does seem like he's a crank, the Beatles and McGowan stuff is silly for example. But he once let Wendy Painting talk for like 12 hours straight and it was like taking a fascinating trip inside her mind, I learned so much. His episodes on Walter Breen are also good, also the ones on crusades and early secret societies and their lore. He did a long 15 part series about United Fruit that I've just started. His voice is annoying, altered I think, and he's definitely paranoid and credulous about some things but I think there's plenty in PTK catalog worth listening to. (I ignore the personal accusations, don't care about that at all.)
aerides
2024-10-27 05:42:17 +0000 UTC
Jimmy Falun Gong and the Subliminal Jihad guys got super mad at MJ for not being schizophrenic enough
Faroose
2024-10-27 05:39:44 +0000 UTC
Jesus Felix
Darren R Young
2024-10-27 00:31:37 +0000 UTC
Finally listening to the episode and the ambient vape noise is so goddamn funny
Ashley Naftule
2024-10-27 00:10:40 +0000 UTC
Thank you. With your permission, I will open this question up to the hoi polloi/huddled masses/peanut gallery.
Dogface Reilly
2024-10-26 20:53:52 +0000 UTC
What's this have to do with pussy?
SkinnyTonySoprano
2024-10-26 18:39:43 +0000 UTC
Dog there is nobody less equipped to answer this than I am. The first time I joined a forum was in 2009
Michael S. Judge
2024-10-26 16:41:21 +0000 UTC
Fuck off Phil Spector, Felix is coming in hard with the Wall of Sound, 2024.
Oneyedjax
2024-10-26 16:38:16 +0000 UTC
Felix mentions that Epstein was exposed on Rotten.com Library in the early 2000's,but I'm not seeing anything at the Rotten Archive. Citation needed! https://gwern.net/doc/rotten.com/library/index.html
Dogface Reilly
2024-10-26 15:59:42 +0000 UTC
I hate that band so fucking much and I'm so glad I got to associate them with Epstein, because Bono and Epstein 100% knew each other
Michael S. Judge
2024-10-26 09:07:06 +0000 UTC
Using U2 for that intro was hilarious.
Dino Zaccagna
2024-10-26 07:42:23 +0000 UTC
I believe you mean "Darth VAPER"...
Rick Copeland
2024-10-26 03:41:36 +0000 UTC
gonna tell my grandchildren about this specific podcast like people talk about sports playoff games
Kamran Husain
2024-10-26 02:32:54 +0000 UTC
Hahah, I dunno why that’s so funny but the image of him sitting in the depression sim cave 3000 and just his eyes turning red as there’s more nicotine in the air than oxygen, as a former joystick sim smoker aficionado, respect.
Maciek
2024-10-26 02:01:01 +0000 UTC
Darth Vader in the background all episode was a little distracting ngl lol
Ricardo DeLeon
2024-10-26 00:29:09 +0000 UTC
This must be the first podcast I’ve ever heard that was formatted in stereo. Nice work
Salt M. Bank
2024-10-26 00:17:01 +0000 UTC
Felix also didn't turn his camera on for this, so it was just vape'n'voice for 2 hours
Michael S. Judge
2024-10-26 00:06:10 +0000 UTC
Hello
Ian P
2024-10-25 23:46:57 +0000 UTC
i'm barely on twitter so i missed that, but i did listen to SJ a couple of years ago for a bit until i realized that everything they say is just innuendo without ever staking out any concrete claims. if i am right about the DMs coming from SJ i intuited it on a vibes level just from seeing those two as trolls. as for PTK i've never heard a non-crank talk seriously about mcgowan so idk i never checked it out. sounds like PTK's not beating the crank allegations tho
Karl Childers
2024-10-25 23:44:44 +0000 UTC
On my walking route, a house that had a qanon flag replaced it with a tame 1776 flag.
Backofhouse4
2024-10-25 22:58:26 +0000 UTC
oh boy that “discourse” was fun, kinda sucked to see because I did enjoy PTK a lot as a resource and some SJ but like wasn’t fun to see them being aggro towards Death Corner.
Pear Is A Patsy
2024-10-25 22:53:28 +0000 UTC
I think it cuz I was listening to it in my car for the first 15mins and it had some eq fuck my ear setting that made the gurgling so pronounced, when it’s just playing off the iphone it’s a non issue, can barely pick it up. Eitherway great ep, not a car listening one though or maybe my car just sucks. I dunno.
Maciek
2024-10-25 22:33:25 +0000 UTC
I dunno man I was laughing my fucking ass off hearing that throughout the episode. It was very charming
M
2024-10-25 22:30:15 +0000 UTC
I love Felix n all but this background of gurgling phlegm in my ears is fucking disgusting, 15 min in and it’s non stop.
Maciek
2024-10-25 22:09:31 +0000 UTC
Vape mode Felix on the pod let’s gooooo
Ashley Naftule
2024-10-25 18:44:23 +0000 UTC
a Powerful anti-pedophile braintrust….
John Waaben
2024-10-25 18:30:24 +0000 UTC
All my favorite people!!
Luccia Moira
2024-10-25 18:09:41 +0000 UTC
Killer ep. Glad to see Felix on the pod
The Real Spiro Agnew
2024-10-25 18:05:23 +0000 UTC
ok 90% of the vaping in this episode was added in post. come on. has to be.
Rohmer Simpson
2024-10-25 18:02:04 +0000 UTC
We gotta get Felix into zyns or something. Still, bomb episode.
CJ
2024-10-25 17:58:55 +0000 UTC
Felix, dog, 8 consecutive chain vape rips? Multiple times? What's going on big guy?
Clay
2024-10-25 17:45:25 +0000 UTC
I can only assume Felix was injured in a mossad hit, and now must reside inside an iron lung.
The Fine Art Revolution
2024-10-25 17:36:12 +0000 UTC
Synchronicities all around, thank you Michael.
ardenwezenberg@hotmail.com
2024-10-25 17:33:55 +0000 UTC
I like to think Matt Christman is here in spirit.
Mark Murphy
2024-10-25 17:30:20 +0000 UTC
Felix is Tony Soprano-breathing as though Brace is wearing a ballcap is a nice sit down restaurant
Mark Murphy
2024-10-25 17:26:46 +0000 UTC
I wanna hang out with this crew.
SkinnyTonySoprano
2024-10-25 16:39:48 +0000 UTC
Please do not have Felix on the show again thank you!
Matt R
2024-10-25 16:11:21 +0000 UTC
How much of Felix’s body has been replaced with e-juice?
Brian Levy
2024-10-25 16:04:23 +0000 UTC
I think a big reason why the intelligence/deep state blob, whatever you want to call it, is never far from these stories where powerful individuals get away with doing truly depraved shit for years on end, is that one of the functions of the intelligence apparatus is stress-testing (or means-testing) the outrage of the majority of us who exist outside those circles of power. I don't intuit that Ed Buck was as much of a hub as Epstein - many many more threads crisscrossing the cork board with Epstein. But he's a useful example nonetheless: when you do x to x number of x individuals for x number of years, x number of civil rights groups are needed to compel the state to bring charges, and your penalty is x years in prison, which you will serve at x facility.
Rohmer Simpson
2024-10-25 16:00:35 +0000 UTC
Ed Buck, one of the most harrowing stories of this type for sure. Major Democratic donor/power player in SF Bay area who was luring vulnerable Black young men and boys to live with him and then intentionally getting them hooked on meth till they achieved the cadaverously skinny look he was erotically fixated on, then most likely murdered them with laced drugs.
*edit* Looked it up and it turns out he was LA-based, not SF
Ian H
2024-10-25 15:26:26 +0000 UTC
As a misophoniac I didn’t love the constant vape noise, but loved the episode anyway.
Brian
2024-10-25 15:25:02 +0000 UTC
I just wanted to ask, what was the name of that pedo who was giving young boys meth whom Brace mentioned at 25:10? Ed Boch or something like that? Thanks in advance
Medard
2024-10-25 15:19:01 +0000 UTC
This rules
NYCM&AHole
2024-10-25 14:43:58 +0000 UTC
What a great end to the week. Terrific episode, thanks!
Kevin
2024-10-25 14:00:33 +0000 UTC
He'll yeah, a '94 Lollapalloza lineup equivalent.
Phil Hostak
2024-10-25 13:49:55 +0000 UTC
I like that Felix says vesteej but not vesteejal
Adam
2024-10-25 13:38:04 +0000 UTC
Liz brilliantly dodging revealing anything about her history. A master.
Brendan Garcia
2024-10-25 13:21:20 +0000 UTC
Lol rotten.com. I remember that shit
NYCM&AHole
2024-10-25 13:09:26 +0000 UTC
The real psyop is Felix trying to drive an audiophile obsessive like MJ absolutely insane with that constant vaping!
Heath Iverson
2024-10-25 13:06:25 +0000 UTC
lol i feel like the pseudo-left paranoiac duo who DM'd michael about every podcast other than theirs being a psyop could easily be the Subliminal Jihad boys
Karl Childers
2024-10-25 12:30:18 +0000 UTC
"Felix Biederman Relaxing Vape Sounds (10 hours)"
David Johnson
2024-10-25 10:17:00 +0000 UTC
Genuinely thought Felix's vape hits were a soundbed you'd laid over the audio.
David Johnson
2024-10-25 10:15:14 +0000 UTC
All the stars are here!
Jake
2024-10-25 09:54:58 +0000 UTC
totaled my car when i saw the lineup
demiurge lovato
2024-10-25 08:51:51 +0000 UTC
Obvs we love Liz and Brace, do we have a, “the gang’s all here” instant classic???
Shivvy
2024-10-25 08:01:24 +0000 UTC
Hooooollllllllly Shhhhhhiiiiiiiiitttttt 💨 💨 💨 Felix on the mic
Shivvy
2024-10-25 08:00:21 +0000 UTC
"9/11 invites you through a door. Epstein opens the door, shoves you through, slams it behind you and locks it" - Puck Beaverton
Ian H
2024-10-25 07:54:25 +0000 UTC
Dude, between this Karol (Carroll?) fella they're mentioning and the rapper that Felix referenced on Chapo a while back, our namesakes are not covering themselves in glory right now.
Ian H
2024-10-25 07:04:54 +0000 UTC
Inspirational
Jerry Stahl
2024-10-25 06:04:14 +0000 UTC
😩👌🏼
Ian P
2024-10-25 05:50:56 +0000 UTC
HOLLA
George Quartz
2024-10-25 05:50:39 +0000 UTC
All my friends are here!
cicada
2024-10-25 05:42:07 +0000 UTC
Mighty
Daniel Nash
2024-10-25 05:22:27 +0000 UTC
Just about to start splitting wood, checked patreon, fuck yes
Ian H
2024-10-25 05:15:37 +0000 UTC
This is one of the most powerful lineups i’ve ever seen, by god
Jack Finor
2024-10-25 05:10:27 +0000 UTC
MSJ you rat bastard, you gave NO indication you were cooking up something massive as this
Connor Moloney
2024-10-25 05:09:36 +0000 UTC
WHAT
Jack McCarty
2024-10-25 05:09:31 +0000 UTC
Let's fuckinf go
r b
2024-10-25 05:08:45 +0000 UTC