I HATE THEO SOOOO MUUUCCCHHH!!!! Also the scene with Scott and Stiles in the rain where they argue breaks my heart every time I watch it! I get why Stiles didn't explain what happened. I also get why Scott didn't explain what Theo explained to him. I'm saying I get the whole conversation. It makes me sad every time tho. I will give more of my thoughts in a later episodes comments because they belong to a certain conversation. If that makes sense.
Squeebers
2023-01-13 10:49:04 +0000 UTC
imo the messiest thing about their fight is that stiles really thought he couldn't trust scott with telling him what happened... bc that was before theo talked with him... i'm pretty sure scott would have understood and trusted stiles if he told him what happened right away but it's interesting to see the pack breaking apart bc since season 1 the most consistent thing has been stiles/scott friendship and the idea of "the pack staying together"! props to theo, he's a bad guy, but he's smart and i love it
leslie martin
2022-02-19 07:51:42 +0000 UTC
There was a live action? Oh no lol
Jeremy Glenn
2022-02-19 04:12:24 +0000 UTC
I think miscommunication is a key factor in a lot of things failing in the real world. It's easy to relate to, I guess that's why they use it lot. Communication is key
Jeremy Glenn
2022-02-19 04:12:05 +0000 UTC
Scott said no to the bite because Hayden was already too weak to survive the bite.
Nati Patti
2022-02-18 21:50:59 +0000 UTC
I am so glad ur seeing both sides and actually get what is happening! I see so many people who don't understand that all of this is on Theo! The boys are being manipulated!
What frustrates me more is that people give Scott so much shit in general because he is not a perfect alpha all the time but when this happened people really came for this man. Specially Stiles fans because nobody is right when it's against Stiles apparently. You can love Stiles and still like Scott, You don't have to hate Scott just because you love Stiles more. I never got the intense hate for Scott. Tyler might not be as good of an actor as Dylan but he is not bad. When they give him good scenes, he can be really good! I feel like Tyler did a really good job last episode, were you actually felt his emotions through the screen!
Stiles and Scott are both my favourites! They are the show for me, the mains and the actual love story of the show! (Not hating on any ships) Both of them did such a good job in that scene! It really broke my heart for them.
Sorry for the rant. It just irritates me so much when people can't see past their love for one character.
Caroline
2022-02-18 06:32:29 +0000 UTC
The thing with Theo is he’s very good at what he’s doing lol
Abby
2022-02-17 22:16:17 +0000 UTC
Communication ✨ it’s no wonder I peaced out this season! It’s my most hated plot trope, miscommunication.
Stephanie Sjoberg
2022-02-17 18:47:24 +0000 UTC
Hey Jeremy this is the answer to your question about Ryan Kelley voicing Ben 10. No Ryan actually played Ben 10 in the movie in 2009. P.s my Patreon messing up so I couldn’t reply back in the comment section on the last episode 🤷♀️
Courtney Tetley
2022-02-17 11:02:16 +0000 UTC
This episode will forever break my heart.
Fatimah Nasser
2022-02-17 04:22:47 +0000 UTC
down bad for sure, but i get it lol
Jeremy Glenn
2022-02-17 02:46:59 +0000 UTC
yeah I've seen a few things. Peeps be wild
Jeremy Glenn
2022-02-17 02:45:08 +0000 UTC
I read everything here :) You can either DM here, or drop it on discord. Either place is fine :)
Jeremy Glenn
2022-02-17 02:44:12 +0000 UTC
The only thing I would give Scott shit for if i did ( I dont) would be... not having Stiles explain what happened to him. Stiles is his best friend, he knew he didn't trust Theo. Like yeah he can take what Theo said and believe him to an extent, but maybe trust your best friend first, the person who has only ever tried to protect him and all of their friends. Especially when he's begging you to believe him. Like he didn't push for Stiles to give him his side of the story, he just took Theo at his word... against his best friend.
Again, not giving Scott shit because he doesn't deserve it. But he could have done better in that situation
brandy-lee
2022-02-17 02:36:39 +0000 UTC
hey jer, idk how often you read the comments on here but is there a specific play for show and movie recommendations? i know theres a thing on discord but is it for discussion for the fans or for you to read the recs? sorry if this is a stoooopid question xd (also my rec is merlin)
LonelyGlader
2022-02-17 00:51:43 +0000 UTC
I like to call this the episode that broke the fandom. I remember when it aired everyone was arguing and fighting about it and I jus remember how crazy it got and still can get to this day when talking about this ep. I have my own opinions but at the end of the day both of them should have communicated better & the scene itself is heartbreaking since stiles and Scott are the best relationship on the show & how much they love each other it hurts to see them fighting.
Bridget b
2022-02-17 00:28:58 +0000 UTC
Scott gets so much shit for that conversation and I hate it - Scott was told something that he has no reason not to believe and the way Stiles just kept repeating “he was going to kill my dad” made it sound like he went after Donovan. I agree, the conversation was too vague and I feel like it definitely would have gone differently in real life. But Theo has done a fantastic job slowly making Scott feel isolated from his Pack and feel like he can’t trust them, especially with everything going on. Yeah, Scott shouldn’t trust Theo but, looking at it from his POV, Theo hasn’t done anything to not be trusted - why would he lie about what Stiles did? And the way Stiles is justifying it just brings that point home.
I just get really heated when people give Scott shit for this.
Alexandra
2022-02-17 00:06:23 +0000 UTC
But to be honest I’m not a big fan of this whole storyline. Only because seeing stiles so traumatised and the gang so fractured hurts my heart……. Yes I’m aware they’re fictional characters 😂
Amy Cope
2022-02-16 23:28:33 +0000 UTC
I hate that scene. I get it, and I think both Tyler and Dylan did a fabulous job. I just feel like the script needed a bit more work. Obviously Scott had the wrong story but the way stiles talked about it was too different to what actually happened. He never once mentioned self defence, or said that it was an accident or that he didn’t mean for him to die. I know that would have been harder to get the misunderstanding to work but the whole conversation just didn’t ring true to me.
Amy Cope
2022-02-16 23:27:04 +0000 UTC
I just commented on this too. i think its more of, stiles could have and would have told him what happened if the emotions and everything werent so high. stiles was frustrated, scott wasnt believing him. its hard to think logically and just be like, "hold on this is what ACTUALLY happened"
brandy-lee
2022-02-16 22:58:36 +0000 UTC
i mean as much as i hate poor communication in shows, i feel like it kind of makes sense here. stiles went through a VERY traumatic event, i don't think it's realistic to expect him to be able to just simply talk about it. going into the details is like reliving the event, it's probably one of the last things he'd want to do. and with scott, the grounds for him not being able to believe him have been set throughout this season. so yeah as much as that scene irritates me, i just still think it's too far to say that "that's not how normal conversation works", because that's not a normal situation to begin with. idk, personally i just think that it makes sense to some extent
i really don't know
2022-02-16 22:55:28 +0000 UTC
This episode is just intense. I love it. Theo is the perfect bad guy for them. They've never gone up against someone like him in a sense. someone whose been able to tear them down from the inside with just a little manipulation. And they're all mostly still blind to it. I feel like even Stiles has let his guard down ever so slightly with him. Thats what I mean when I say i love theo, is that hes a great villain (also i just love cody christian lol).
And Scott and Stiles convo man... they need to learn to not be so vague. Im sure Stiles immediately knew how Scott found out and once he said "what are you talking about", he should have stopped and asked what he thought happened or explained what happened. But the scene was intense and emotions were high so you dont think logically.
brandy-lee
2022-02-16 22:54:11 +0000 UTC
This is just me being down bad but beth was pretty cute
Thomas_Stilinski
2022-02-16 22:17:04 +0000 UTC
That scene with Scott in stiles is my favorite in the whole show nothing ever topped that for me
Thomas_Stilinski
2022-02-16 22:07:41 +0000 UTC
Even if you hate Theo, you gotta give him credit where it's due and (like someone said on a recent reaction) he's an amazing bad character! So many people have failed at doing damage to the pack, but he cracked the code and knows exactly how to do it: and he's succeeding!
Kate Browne
2022-02-16 22:05:19 +0000 UTC
i set an alarm for this episode lmao. probably will for tomorrows as well ;) . going to watch now :)