Thoughts on Using AI For Vanilla NPC Banter?
Added 2023-03-13 10:55:17 +0000 UTCHow do you guys feel with me using AI for NPC Banter? While I decided to be against it in terms of a Laura Bailey version of SDA (if you aren't aware, you can read this reddit thread I made: https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/10u1joy/sda_laura_bailey_ai_revoice/)
However, I still am open to using AI in other ways, like for the vanilla characters Serana interacts with.
Previously, I've had to reuse lines, or where that wasn't possible - splice. This allows me to be more creative in conversations with Lydia for example (an NPC I previously shelved banter with, other than the IFD version) because I wasn't able to write anything creative with reused/spliced lines that wasn't derivative of other follower banter with Lydia (like Inigo).
The moral issue is still there of consent and me not being sure of the consent of the original VAs, but I guess it's okay or more permissible if other people are doing it? (a good number of mods are out that use Elevenlabs that add lines to vanilla voice types).
Open to thoughts and I'm still on the fence here.
Comments
Sounds really interesting.
Brian Morgan
2023-03-27 13:59:01 +0000 UTCA big yes from me too
Tobogan
2023-03-21 08:55:03 +0000 UTCI think you should absolutely go for it!
Christian Fuentes
2023-03-16 04:19:06 +0000 UTCAs long as there wouldn't be a huge discernible difference between the current voice actor and the ai generated lines
2023-03-14 17:52:52 +0000 UTCThank you for the feedback!
Martimius
2023-03-14 14:39:24 +0000 UTCYep! Excited to make stuff like that as well.
Martimius
2023-03-14 14:39:14 +0000 UTCCan you also link me where you found out about what Bethesda said about AI? Just so I have future documentation and reference to this.
Martimius
2023-03-14 14:38:54 +0000 UTCElevenlabs is pretty good so using it for new NPC lines would work well enough.
2023-03-14 12:56:44 +0000 UTCI reckon that'd be pretty cool, I do find the Mikael and Serana banter rather entertaining to be honest be nice to see more :)
2023-03-14 11:45:33 +0000 UTCThank you for the feedback!
Martimius
2023-03-14 11:42:11 +0000 UTCOh, trust me. ElevenLabs is hella realistic. That's why I even considered AI in the first place.
Martimius
2023-03-14 11:41:38 +0000 UTCi'd rather the npc be unvoiced than ai generated - sounds fake af
2023-03-14 11:03:48 +0000 UTCDefinitely yes. An opinion I have heard elsewhere is that it should be okay for vanilla voices as those lines are skyrim assets and Bethesda has permitted a huge amount of mods to utilise those assets through splicing and synthesis. It follows from that opinion that just because ElevenLabs is higher quality than VASynth, that doesn't change the fact that it is still a permitted use of skyrim assets. All high quality mods are adopting this tech to expand the possibilities for what vanilla NPCs can do and I think this is the future.
Zeroth
2023-03-14 09:29:42 +0000 UTCThank you for your feedback!
Martimius
2023-03-14 01:18:38 +0000 UTCYep, as others have stated, for vanilla voices, your paying ElevenLabs for their use. So, all for it, because, for selfish reasons, it’s always awkward when I play mainly with Serana & Lydia together, and their banter is like, zero to none.🙃
HUP06
2023-03-14 00:26:01 +0000 UTCThank you for the feedback!
Martimius
2023-03-14 00:08:32 +0000 UTCI'm for it. I'd like to see where it goes and it'd be interesting to see what you could come up with.
Drazhan
2023-03-13 23:15:11 +0000 UTC
