Right? It's one of the ideal computers to display late-90s mediocrity.
LGR
2017-10-31 17:35:37 +0000 UTC
Haha, now that would be a trip down memory lane, with a detour on awful avenue.
LGR
2017-10-31 17:35:17 +0000 UTC
I always uninstall it.
LGR
2017-10-31 17:34:35 +0000 UTC
If you're serious then, well, I guess I was a bit too quick to dismiss the usefulness of the tutorial program :P
LGR
2017-10-31 17:34:12 +0000 UTC
so jealous you have (another) PC that runs pod :o
Peter Metzger
2017-10-30 15:09:38 +0000 UTC
Back in my work-experience days I had a boss who hated Packard Bell desktops. But one of my cousins had one and I remember playing Duke 3D on that.
Ahhh, nostalgic memories of avoiding drunks watching the AFL.
Ois
2017-10-30 10:29:06 +0000 UTC
I love this project videos! Moar, please!
iCach0
2017-10-29 18:06:36 +0000 UTC
I love the aesthetic of this machine. It's so standard and white and 90s.
Nostalgia Nerd
2017-10-29 13:59:12 +0000 UTC
Always hesitant about telling people about the jumper for clearing the password. It always felt like a kind of in-house secret with IT users. They're still there even on the newest desktops. Which knowledge of makes locking down your system in case of theft almost impossible. Unless it's a laptop anyway.
SuperBunnyBun
2017-10-28 16:36:34 +0000 UTC
Make an Episode on 90's bloatware!
2017-10-27 22:57:08 +0000 UTC
Awesome product key, gotta try that sometime! It sounds *gassy* :)
2017-10-27 22:23:50 +0000 UTC
My first PC was an ASI T-Bird, a pre-built 386 SX which didn't have the best components, but it looked awesomely 90s. It came with a weird custom DOS shell where one could directly start the pre-installed games, Monkey Island 2 and Mad TV.
Renzo Thönen
2017-10-27 19:39:37 +0000 UTC
I really like the idea of restoring even the crap computers. It gives a sense of importance to the flood of crap coming marketwise.
avfusion
2017-10-27 14:49:10 +0000 UTC
What are your thoughts on Norton, especially for those computers of that period? I found that it literally screwed up every PC that it was ever installed on and yet, somehow everyone kept on using it. Was it just me or did others have that experience?
Gary Leigh
2017-10-27 14:24:07 +0000 UTC
Brings back the nightmares of computers of that time. I always opted to build my own but there were so many dodgy parts out there. It was just how it was.
Gary Leigh
2017-10-27 14:22:39 +0000 UTC
Well thank you Packard Bell I learnt something. I use Calculator every day didn't ever occur to me to hit view and see that it converts units. I was using Google!
Shapey Fiend
2017-10-27 13:30:00 +0000 UTC
That bloatware.... holy crap so much bloatware. D8
The Enforcer
2017-10-27 04:08:22 +0000 UTC
Always gotta have the Doom. And the Keen. And the Duke3D more often than not
LGR
2017-10-27 01:34:34 +0000 UTC
Well that's unusual, I wonder if it kicked in some kind of 3D acceleration. It does have the capability!
LGR
2017-10-27 01:34:17 +0000 UTC
"""QUIET"""
LGR
2017-10-27 01:33:36 +0000 UTC
It really is the ideal average PC from late '98
LGR
2017-10-27 01:33:27 +0000 UTC
Thanks for the info!
LGR
2017-10-27 01:33:16 +0000 UTC
It's not a LGR video like this without testing DOOM.. I always enjoy these videos..
John Madigan
2017-10-26 23:37:59 +0000 UTC
It was a toss up in my area in the US. Lots of shops put together PCs but sometimes you just wanted a company with a phone number. My dad always bought us a used computer when local businesses were upgrading so we got IBMs and Compaqs. My first laptop which was a Pentium II Compaq used to run a server for the NCAA in fact.
Contreramanjaro
2017-10-26 22:26:50 +0000 UTC
Mmmm. I'd love to have my old Compaq Deskpro just to hear the whir of the fans and the clacking of the floppy drive. It had a very quite floppy drive compared to most of the other PCs I had used and it seemed pretty fast. I even had a video memory expansion in it, well that my dad had put in it.
Contreramanjaro
2017-10-26 22:22:36 +0000 UTC
A friend of mine back in the late 90s had a computer just like this one and I remember it having some... "odd" compatibility issues. For instance, my friend had a flight combat game, I think something with A-10s, and it was running a horrible framerate at a low resolution. So while he's in the bathroom I decide to tinker with the settings, I turn it UP from 320x240 to 640x480 and suddenly, instead of a framerate of 6 we've got a framerate of 30! :O
Kris Asick
2017-10-26 21:46:17 +0000 UTC
"quiet". Ain't that the truth.
David Rickard
2017-10-26 20:56:40 +0000 UTC
Nice!!! :D
floverSaeu09
2017-10-26 20:33:39 +0000 UTC
I love to restore old PCs. Sadly I don't have the budget for it anymore (thanks ebay scalpers), but I'm always glad to relive it through your videos. :)
Maximilien Noal
2017-10-26 20:28:38 +0000 UTC
A PC that is perfectly below average in practically every way.
Matthew Dooley
2017-10-26 19:21:22 +0000 UTC
I recall fixing a couple of these PB towers around late 2000, had mostly the same kind of problems - dead power supplies, noisy CPU fans, dying/dead HDDs and CD-ROMS. One got upgraded with a Lite-On DVD-RW drive, 20 gig WD HDD, 250 watt Enermax PSU and a Voodoo 3 3000 PCI (and it's still working, too ^^). The issue with Commander Keen is pretty common with ATI GPUs from this era and there's no real way to fix it. The Rage 2C is capable of 3D rendering but doesn't have enough video memory for most 3D games (4mb was the minimum required back then) and lacks a number of hardware features, most notably no Z-buffering and no means to disable Vsync.
2017-10-26 16:28:27 +0000 UTC
Also, install Windows me :)
Robert Launder
2017-10-26 16:12:12 +0000 UTC
Never had a prebuilt desktop, nice to see what crap they came with preinstalled and what i avoided in my youth. First thing what i would have done to that system would have been a fresh clean install, just as i do with every notebook i had since ever.
BTW: Could it be that the US was mainly a pre-build and we Germans where mainly a small shop/homebrew land for PCs in the 90s?
BastetFurry
2017-10-26 15:58:04 +0000 UTC
What a BUNCH of bloatware.
2017-10-26 15:54:51 +0000 UTC
That thing reminds me of an eMachines I had. The inside looks practically identical, though it was newer with a Celeron and Windows me.
Robert Launder
2017-10-26 15:49:20 +0000 UTC
Bulky rainbow-shaped bloatware launchers FTW
J.R. Williams
2017-10-26 15:44:36 +0000 UTC
love the vid btw
Wallace Fung Wooh Sheen
2017-10-26 15:42:41 +0000 UTC
Hey LGR, completely unrelated to the video, what is your opinion on the rise of loot boxes and microtransaction in single player focused game?
Wallace Fung Wooh Sheen
2017-10-26 15:42:32 +0000 UTC
I, too, smashed my old Packard Bell with a hammer. And set it on fire. I was all too happy to be rid of it at the time. Much regret.
LGR
2017-10-26 15:41:15 +0000 UTC
When we built our first pc based on parts from a computer show at a hotel, we took a sledgehammer to the mid 90s packard bell it replaced.
It felt good.
I think we kept the cdrom.
Jessie Cook
2017-10-26 15:24:55 +0000 UTC
Glad you enjoyed it! An MX 400 is a bit newer than I have in mind for this late 90s machine, but not out of the question either. I'd be curious to see how far I can push this thing with GPU upgrades alone, even those well into the 2000s.
LGR
2017-10-26 15:23:07 +0000 UTC
Amazing video! On the note of upgrades, a GeForce MX 400 would be right on the 'low budget, high ambitions' ethos of that build, IMO.
Also, amazing woodgrain toothbrush... And hope those band-aids on your left hand aren't from something too painfull!
Thank you very much for the upload!
LJFox
2017-10-26 15:13:50 +0000 UTC
Yeah these are fun and give me an excuse to finish projects like this I've had hanging around for years :)
LGR
2017-10-26 14:48:40 +0000 UTC
Another PC restoration? You're spoiling us! <3
2017-10-26 14:39:59 +0000 UTC
Yep, everything was original until I upgraded the things shown in the video. These later PB systems were made under the watch of NEC and featured more generic hardware and software, so the generic BIOS isn't surprising.
LGR
2017-10-26 14:39:49 +0000 UTC
Is the BIOS original? I didn't see a Packard Bell logo or anything PB related on it.