Buffy The Vampire Slayer 5x15
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Hello All!
Well let's be honest, you're all here for that ending aren't you?..
Was quite a shock to the system that one. Don't approve. The episode itself was a fun one...until they whacked that disgusting scene on at the end of it. Buffy surprised me in this one with how she was relating and empathising so strongly with a robot. I did wanna discuss how Giles was so protective over Buffy in how he spoke to Spike but my mind broke at the end of this...you'll see in the reaction...enjoy...I guess...
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I joined because I couldn’t wait… and I was not let down! Now, time to grab the tissues and check out the next one… cheers and be well everyone!
Chris Knuth
2023-10-27 00:55:07 +0000 UTCWhen you started Season 5, I was both dreading and looking forward to your reactions. I really love this episode and Shonda Farr did a great job as April. The end scene was heartbreaking and anxiety-inducing, and your reaction was so real and heartfelt that I flashbacked to 2001 when it first aired. When Buff said "Mommy?" I teared up both then and now.
Brian Dworak
2023-02-01 06:46:31 +0000 UTCDamn...
William Lawrence
2023-01-29 18:01:02 +0000 UTClol :D been waiting for this ending since you started episode 1 to be honest.
William Lawrence
2023-01-29 18:00:31 +0000 UTCBuffy is more than just a TV show. There's a reason it's lasted in the consciousness of so many people for so long. It's over 20 years old and it still manages to be one of the most immersive reacting experiences out there, not to mention all the shows since that have been influenced by it (*cough*Warrior Nun*cough* lol). A large reason is because of how every big moment emotionally resonates with everyone, and also because the characters are so easy to fall in love with. You feel their pain as if you know them, because they've made complex characters that feel real, and not just people on a screen. Not to mention how everyone can relate to what these characters experience.
Leafsdude
2023-01-28 03:33:04 +0000 UTCFun fact, the actor who plays Warren in this episode dated Amber Benson (Tara). Not sure if they met through Buffy, but they were together for several years.
Stargazer1682
2023-01-28 02:54:55 +0000 UTCYes, an "intimate" connection between Ben and Glory was revealed toward the end of 5x13. Maybe Dakara was empathizing too much with Dawn and forgot seeing this along with her.
rattusprat
2023-01-27 07:07:03 +0000 UTCThat end scene. I'm pretty sure I had your exact same reaction. I was watching this episode with my best friend in the times where we watched it week to week on the WB. I was in shock, she was too for about 3 seconds and started crying in wretching fits. I just held her saying, "No, this is a dream, not real, you'll see next week." I'll never forget that moment in a silly monster of the week episode.
Ryan Martinez
2023-01-27 06:19:41 +0000 UTCForgetting about that final scene, this was overall a fun MOTW episode. Buffy helping April in her final moments and talking to her makes me cry every time. I hate Warren so much. He's such a pos creep. Tara continues to be a big bright light for me. I love her and Willow's relationship; and I love that her "spicy talk" really isn't that spicy but still seems so out of character because of how sweet and genuine she is. I love that Joyce got to share some laughs with her girls and had a really great night out with a nice dude who sent her flowers after. I love how happy she is in this episode. (and I'm not crying as I type this, seriously). Sending love your way for the next episode. It's one of the very best episodes of the whole series and I'm looking forward (?) to seeing your reaction and reading everyone's comments about it.
John
2023-01-27 03:02:46 +0000 UTCdid i miss something? Did dakara realise ben is glory in this episode? During the "orgasm" jump scare scene? Wasnt that revealed a few episodes ago?
Merkavar
2023-01-27 02:04:11 +0000 UTCthis is a rough one that blindsides you. xoxo
Johnny
2023-01-27 01:02:33 +0000 UTCWhat affects me the most about this episode is Buffy's conversation with April. Right before the Joyce reveal, you have this deep conversation about always making the most of life and how things will get better, and then Buffy comes home and is plunged right into the episode's final moments of increasingly terrifying anxiety. She goes from the incredibly adult decision to lie to April and say that she accomplished her purpose, to give her satisfaction in her final moments, and then she reverts right back to early childhood when she finds her mommy unresponsive. Rewatching that dynamic play out really just makes me feel so vulnerable: you can keep trying to tell yourself good things about the future, and you can even believe them, but that doesn't mean there won't be bad moments as well. It's at vulnerable times like that that I also draw heavily on the previous conversation about Buffy needing to get comfortable being alone with herself. Self-acceptance is one of the best first steps in facing the things the world has to throw at you. It helps build friendships too.
Ed Green
2023-01-26 22:32:23 +0000 UTCI'm gonna chime in and reassure you that your reaction to the end of this episode is pretty typical. That image, combined with Buffy's "mommy", was indelibly burned into my brain the moment it aired. I was going to warn you to make sure you have ALL the tissues at hand for the next one, but from the previous comments it seems like you've already watched it, so you already know. I look forward to the next one, even as I dread it. Good luck.
Neil Silverman
2023-01-26 22:24:36 +0000 UTCWhich reactor was this, if you don't mind? I must have missed one. :) (Also: full agreement, only love and support for anyone watching that scene for the first time. <3 We were all there once.)
Mattias Swing
2023-01-26 21:18:16 +0000 UTCI promise you...no one is gonna be laughing at you in the comments through this.
Kate
2023-01-26 20:14:32 +0000 UTCFirst, let me start this off by saying, Buffy is not just a television show. Buffy, is life. Dak: This episode hurt me... physically hurt my heart. Right there with you, Dak. Let me tell you a little story. I watched a reactor who recently did this episode. He got to that ending, and he literally screamed. I kid you not, Dak, this man screamed SO LOUD, he scared living crap out of me. His parents came rushing in, panicked, asking if he was alright. He had to leave for a minute and tell them he was okay. I say this simply to tell you that we all have emotions, and that ending is rough on a lot of us. Your reaction is perfectly normal, and anyone who puts you down for it is a troll. Believe me when I say, we know. I cannot stress this enough, my friend. No one is laughing at you. We get it, we are here, and you are not alone.
Raven Dark
2023-01-26 18:11:14 +0000 UTCSpoilers don't bother me and sometimes I even actively seek them out. If other people want to watch things Spoiler-Free, though, I respect that. I don't think one way is inherently superior to the other. It's just different strokes for different folks and I don't see any reason why we can't all get along and let people consume media however they want to do it.
R. Chang
2023-01-26 18:05:35 +0000 UTCI had my hands covering my face a little at that end scene. Knowing what's coming on a rewatch it worse. You clocked it quick. Joss loves killing off people as soon as happiness is achieved. Jenny - just when her and Giles were getting back together, Angel, just when his soul got restored... and now Joyce, recovered from her tumour and starting to date. Supernatural definitely took that element of 'everything seems too happy' and made your dread what was coming...
Sharon Owen
2023-01-26 17:47:22 +0000 UTCLOL
Raven Dark
2023-01-26 17:47:08 +0000 UTCDakara's watched ep 16 now, she watched it the same day I believe...
Sharon Owen
2023-01-26 17:44:16 +0000 UTCIf there is one thing we learned from Xander in highschool and Anya's stories, it is that using shortcuts when dealing with love always workout. ;-P
Joshua Bull
2023-01-26 17:35:08 +0000 UTCTechnically Spike would just be a simp for Buffy, not an incel. In fact, he doesn't even come close to the latter from what we know about him.
Joshua Bull
2023-01-26 17:28:28 +0000 UTCJoss Whedon writes incels so well…
Jack
2023-01-26 17:13:05 +0000 UTCI have a lot of thoughts about the ending of this episode and everything that leads up to it, but it's pretty tough to talk about without spoilers for future episodes and I don't know how far ahead you are. So I'll just say that my first time watching I had the exact same reaction as you. I think we all did. Nobody's going to be throwing shade for that. Leaving aside the ending, I really love this episode. I love the themes about relationships and love. One of my favorite lines was when Buffy asks if she's dangerous and Warren says that she's only programmed to love and then Buffy immediately understands that means that she's extremely dangerous because of how strong that feeling is and how twisted it can get. Like you, I also love how much Xander demonstrates his maturity in this episode. The scene where he's fixing the window and is so confident in his own self-worth is really great. He's come a long way. To me this is sort of the payoff from the episode where was split in two. I think that episode really showed him what he could be and he's worked to become it with his whole self. I like it a lot.
R. Chang
2023-01-26 17:05:14 +0000 UTCThat last scene…. No comment. Although fun bit of trivia about this episode is that the April robot was supposed to be played by Britney Spears but she backed out at the last minute due to scheduling conflicts
Gabe Morales
2023-01-26 16:57:25 +0000 UTCYour reaction is indeed about the same as the rest of us when we first saw this. It is Joss Whedon being a cruell bastard but brilliant story teller. The thing that does it for me in this episode is right at the end, where buffy goes from 'Mom' to 'mommy'. Painfull but brilianntly acted. I think Xander had tremendous growth during this season, and this episode really showcases that. He's really find is spot, he has his skills now with the carpentry/contracting etc, and just more comfortable. As you said, he's now genuinely giving advice as friend, and the flirtation is kind of gone, but the humour and quirkyness is still there. Anya is still somewhat skittish but trying her best not to be and to trust Xander. Willow and Tara are adorable, and their little interplays during the episode were great. Spike is falling further, and who knows what he would do with a buffy bot. I look forward to the next reaction. I know you've already seen it so sending the feels forward. GL on the edit.
Bart Aansorgh
2023-01-26 16:44:00 +0000 UTCI don't think your reaction is any different from most of us when we first watched it. The reason we still love the show so many years later is because of how well written and acted the show is you feel connected to the characters even if it is just a TV show.
Collinson
2023-01-26 16:21:43 +0000 UTCUh-oh. Or In the words of Giles, oh, as usual, dear.
Raven Dark
2023-01-26 16:21:34 +0000 UTCThis episode... Full disclosure: I haven't watched your reaction before leaving this comment. I've been DREADING you getting to this episode, because of the palpable fear and concern for Joyce's wellbeing I've seen from you all season. I wish you strength through getting this. One of my biggest issues with modern mass media and media consumption is the culture of spoilerphobia that has arisen in the last 15-20 years or so, and the end of this episode is something I always go back to when discussing that. First off, the obvious preface: deliberately spoiling something for someone you know cares about spoilers is a dick move. Having said that... I've never understood spoilerphobia. It absolutely baffles and bewilders me. And if I did subscribe to spoilerphobia, I don't think it's a stretch to say I'd be a very different person than I am today. My favorite show of all-time is Doctor Who. It's been that way since I way 7 years old, when I saw my first episode in the summer of 1983. To this day, its one of the three shows I credit with shaping my beliefs, my values, and my approach to life. Like most Americans of that age, my first exposure to the show was the Tom Baker era. And I quickly became obsessed. But when Who had its first wave of cult popularity in the US, where I grew up *wasn't* part of that. It disappeared from my local after that summer, and two cycles of the first half of Tom's run. I wouldn't live in an area where I could watch the original series over the air again until 2014. It's 1983. No internet. No BritBox. No Netflix. My family wouldn't even get its first VCR until 1990. There were only two ways I saw new-to-me episodes again during that stretch of time. The first was scanning primarily the UHF dial for signal skips, where if conditions were juuuuuuuuust right (best conditions being after dark with particularly warm and clear weather) you could pick up snowy broadcasts from out of the normal television market. (I grew up in coastal Virginia, and IIRC the farthest signal I was ever able to pick up was a Pertwee Dalek episode airing one night in New Jersey.) The other method was seeing episodes when my family would go down to the Outer Banks of North Carolina on vacation, where it was still showing regularly on PBS. Usually a single episode Monday through Friday nights at 11PM, and then a movie format serial compilation on Saturday afternoons. The first single Pertwee episode I ever saw was part one of "The Silurians", when we got in town Friday night early enough to catch. (And even able to set up a tape recorder to make an audio copy!) I wouldn't see the rest of that serial for about 10 years. Ironically, IIRC, the first full Pertwee serial I ever saw was his final one, and the first Davison serial I ever saw was "Earthshock", a story FAMOUS for its dual surprises. And to this day, one of my favorite memories of my brother is his jumping up and punching the air when that title appeared on screen... ... because he knew what was coming. Which brings me to the OTHER way I sustained my fandom in that time. Local TV had stopped showing the program, but my local bookstore was still stocking the Target novelizations. And I would buy as many of those, as often as I could. I'd say the majority of Classic Who stories I read the novelization of before I ever watched them. My brother had read the "Earthshock" novelization, and was EXCITED to see that story on screen. When my brother came back from college, he brought with him the Peter Haining and L'Officier reference books that had been published around the 20th anniversary. We'd later get the FASA tabletop roleplaying game. All of these had what would today be consider spoilers, revealing plot information for stories we'd never seen, and didn't have any idea when actually WOULD see. (It wasn't until 2011 that I could finally say I'd seen every surviving Classic episode.) And NONE of this lessened my enjoyment of those episode, when I was finally able to watch them. In fact, the story that's my favorite Classic story is, I think, BECAUSE I'd read the novelization first. Because the novelization helped bridged the gap between what the story was going for, and what the production was able to achieve on-screen. If I'd ever cared about spoilers... none of that happens. My fandom would have withered and died. Maaaaaybe when the revival made it across the Atlantic in 2006, I'd have remembered this show I'd seen as a kid and checked it out, out of curiosity. But there's something about the way you fall in love with a show or a movie as a kid, that I don't think can be replicated as an adult. Getting back to Buffy... The day before this episode aired, I picked up my weekly copy of TV Guide at the grocery store, with the listings for NEXT week's TV. Which had a little one to two sentence blurb detailing what next week's Buffy would be about. Which tipped me off to how this episode would end, one day before it aired. So I don't have the personal frame of reference to relate to the gut punch I see when reactors get here. And I'm honestly kinda grateful that I was prepared for that moment in advance.
AlyAdmirer
2023-01-26 16:18:30 +0000 UTCOh no… (grabs some popcorn)
Paul Thomas-Humphreys
2023-01-26 15:52:09 +0000 UTCWasn't expecting this reaction so soon, I thought watch orders would've had you watch the next two Angels first. Either way, indeed a shocking ending.
Steveo
2023-01-26 15:34:27 +0000 UTCAw noooo. Lots of love this was rough ❤️
Shellbot
2023-01-26 15:30:19 +0000 UTC
