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Daniel Schneider
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Something I need to get off my chest

Jesus Christ… I have no idea how else to start this topic.

There is this guy who asked me a while ago what the difference would be between my Red Roses Playing Cards and my Blue Magic Playing Cards. “Just got your decks. A bit confused. Red and blue are different only 12 cards?” I asked him what he means with only 12 cards. Every single card in the Red Roses deck is completely new designed and I never used these faces again in another deck. His response was: “ah. Well technically you are right xD” and he sent me a photo where he put two 2 of Spades cards of both decks side by side.

So, short recap. We are talking about a person who can’t even see that EVERY single card is different. I thought with my explanation he would end his day at least a bit smarter but of course I was wrong.

Yesterday I posted something on Instagram and this guy left a comment: “Sounds like you trying to justify yourself after releasing 10 recolored decks.” I was absolutely not in the mood for anything so I just deleted the comment. A few minutes later he posted a screenshot of his comment with the text: “oh boi, @blackrosesplayingcards os offended and has deleted my comment which he didn’t like. Ouch. You delete something you don’t want people to see.”

Again, quick recap. The guy posted a comment and he immediately made a screenshot. He knew I would delete it so he just wanted to be prepared.... Now, put yourselves in my position. You post something and you get a rude answer. You can ignore it, or you delete it because it’s your page, right?

Since he tagged me in his story I wrote him and I said: “listen, your comments are always a little bit rude. I don’t want to argue with you since you simply don’t understand what I’m doing. That’s fine. You don’t have to. You also don’t need to like or understand it. I could explain this meme to you or why you are wrong but I’m tired of it. So simply don’t take it personal”.

His response: “I know it’s not personal Moreover, I think we both understand why you do it and why you do it this way. Just for money, 100% for money. You just cannot accept it on public as sheep will not enjoy it. You said you spend 80 hours on redesign bicycle faces. Average person work 40 hours per week, and you get much more. It’s fine, everyone get money how they can. Don’t worry I don’t post anything from this chat, private is private.”

Later in the conversation he mentioned the 80 hours of work a few times. I just mentioned these 80 hours once because he asked me what the differences are in my redesigned files. And he told me he would have worked 2000 hours on his deck. I told him that it isn’t a competition. This weird fact that someone comes to you, without even understanding what you are doing. And on top of everything he tells me “don’t worry I don’t post anything from this chat, private is private.” As if I need to fear something.

I told him that if I would do it for money I would print 10 decks right away in 10 different colors. And even if I would do it only for money – what’s the damn problem with it? I told him that this is something he needs to understand that it isn’t a bad thing to get money for your work. He said I never mention money and that I like it to call it art because I would know it sounds better. At this point I realized we are spinning in a circle. I could refute all of his allegations. Everybody could see that everything he is saying comes from pure frustration. But of course he simply wants that I admit that everything he thinks about me is true.

Later he mentioned my 50K on Kickstarter. Weird that he even knows the funding goals better than me but ok. But in the next sentences he said I wouldn’t get it. “It’s not about the money, it’s not about you, you don’t get the point”. Yes of course, he knows all the numbers, he knows how much effort I put into my work he knows exactly what I’m doing and I don’t get it. Imagine I would fund every Kickstarter deck on the last day, then it would be different for those people because I don’t make money.

“Why don’t you design anything new?” Again – a question from someone who don’t understand that every deck is new. But I said to him: “Look at the Orbits.” Turned out he don’t like the Orbits either. With this answer he revealed himself and he completely lost all his arguments about recoloring. He simply don’t like it because it’s more successful than everything that he will accomplish in his life. And he knows it.

As if everything is so easy for me. I worked my ass of to get to the point where I am today and my fear to end at the point where I started is so huge that every new project stresses the shit out of myself. Of course, this person is just frustrated, because he probably isn’t able to print his own deck. But Jesus Christ, is this my f*cking problem?

Like I have said in one my previous posts. People made jokes about what I’m doing because I couldn’t make a living with what I’m doing. Now people think I’m so successful and everything sells without any effort. A good reason to hate me know.

I’m so f*cking tired of it and this really kills a lot of my motivation. And yes, I know I should simply ignore dumb people and my life would be so much easier. But I also like to discuss with people about my what I do. If they think wrong about me, I have the urge to show them that what they think isn’t true. I also understand that this is a never-ending story.

One last thing about the money. I really don’t have a lot more in my life than my playing cards. As if that wouldn’t be sad enough. But that’s why I can say I put my life into this. And what’s art if not this? Even if I wouldn’t care about it. I could also say please buy my cards because I want to get rich af. It doesn’t matter what I say. I know my decks sell because what I create is better than the average. A lot better.

I wasn’t sure if I should share this story with you or not. These stories also shouldn’t sound like a therapy lesson every time: :D But like the headline says, I had to get it off my chest.


Thanks for reading ♡

Daniel


Something I need to get off my chest

Comments

Thanks a lot Paul 🙏🏼🙏🏼

Daniel Schneider

Hello, I’m new here, so taking a read through some older posts. The kind of crap he was dishing at you really makes me sad. This world needs to calm down, mind their own business, and let each other live their own life. Why do people gotta bring others down? I know, Haters gonna hate, but we need more lovers. But, for context, this might make you feel a little better about things: “He takes a canvas and throws on some green paint, then a daub of yellow and then of slush. Next he makes a few circles, smears all the colors together, adds a few straight lines and labels the whole ‘Broad and Chestnut Streets on a Sunday Afternoon.’” Or “It Requires an Odd Sort of Taste to Appreciate” or “humbug” or “is not so bad as it seems at first glance.” Or “… it is not unlikely that Picasso represents in one person the steady downward trend of civilization and the present dominant influences tending toward world cataclysm.” Those are all quotes about Picasso, from Major art critics at the time. All that to say, if art experts can be so wrong, don’t let the internet foosballs out there get you down. Keep up your excellent work.

Paul Stahly

Haters gonna hate, man. Let's just all agree not to hold or collective breath waiting for his 2000-hour deck to come out. We know what he's all about. His use of the word sheep is a tell... NOTHING will please this type of person but attention. They are just internet noise. It's hard to tune out when it's directed AT you, but just block the troll, and don't sell to him. LOL. Remember, after a long, wonderful journey, you have to wash the bugs off your windshield. I'm mixing my metaphors in search of true insignificance, but he isn't worth the effort, so I'll leave it at that! Keep rocking the excellence!

Thedmo Pink

Honestly dude, 99% of people LOVE, not just LIKE what u do. & U LOVE what u do. There's always gonna be a few people in life that are u. Maybe they're havin' a bad day, hate their life, or are just Assholes.!? It doesn't justify it or should it be ur problem. But u do have a much bigger platform & are where these people would kill to be so unfortunately this won't be the last jag off u have to deal with. But i'm gettin' off ur chest helped a bit. 🙏

Ray Greschner

😊

Moises Siperstein

Thanks for sharing this 🙏🏼

Daniel Schneider

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

Daniel Schneider

Man, you are the only designer I know who cares that much about the details on the face cards, and I love that, I'm obsessed with perfectionism and your work gives me just that, being honest, every time I grab any of your decks I find something new (that's a lot to say, because your playing cards are the only decks that accomplish that). Of course that I also love seeing new back designs and how intricate those can be, but always keep seeing the same standard faces leaves to much to desired, I like standard faces, but I think you'll understand what I'm trying to say hahaha. Your job is amazing and that's why we are here. You can't please everybody, there will be people who don't understand it, who don't like it, who will find it senseless, or whatever, you can think any possibility and I can assure you there will be always someone to give a downgrade to your job. What matters more is what you think about your job, and second, how we (everyone who likes your job) feel about it, you are doing something right and you know it. Keep doing what you do and don't lose that motivation man, your work matters and we love it ;) Not everything is always rosy, but you can always have a "Rose" on hand :D

Jessui

What you sell are NOT decks of cards. You sell the ART. The ideas of your mind and the expression in your hands. Unfortunately not everyone will appreciate individual artistic expression. Your expression resonates with a lot of people and there will be a lot of people for whom it will make no sense. I wish to share an experience I had: I’m a physician and once a patient (a heavy machine operator) challenged and ridiculed me in front of a waiting room full of people because he felt that for 10 minutes of my time where I hardly did anything but asked him questions I charged a fee in excess of his 8 hour daily wage. I explained that my services are founded on 12 years of schooling and 15 years of experience. He didn’t care and proceeded to rant. I told him we’d have to agree to disagree and asked him to leave the office. Your work is unique and you will be better off expecting a few very nasty comments every now and then, is part of the price very successful people have to pay And never stop listening to your heart and paving your road your way. I applaud you!

Moises Siperstein

Daniel, you stress about these trolls too much. As someone who also considers themselves a perfectionist and details matter I understand. But you can't let them bother you so much. Even if they were just recolors who cares. The design is fucking amazing. Keep up the good work.

Mike Elmer

I'm glad you shared this story here man. There's always going to be people that get off on being negative. Don't let it get to you. If this dude doesn't want to take the time to learn what you are doing then its on him. You are so far above that. Theres a ton of people that absolutely love everything that you create. I am one of them. Keep on pumping out the amazing art!

Ryan Zimmerman

Vent, brother! Testify! Haters gonna hate. You've arrived (made it/succeeded) and some people are misguided, misinformed, and of course- just plain jealous. Always feel free to unburden yourself here. 😎🖤😎

Scott Mathews

“If you make an agreement with someone, that’s on you. If someone has expectations of you, that’s on them” -Naval Ravikant Daniel, we all love your art (and business). I do get a little sad reading in your posts how much you struggle with the negative commentary. It’s only a start, but may I recommend reading The Almanack of Naval Ravikant, particularly the second half on Happiness. (The pdf is free at https://www.navalmanack.com). But that’s not your style, just take comfort in this great following you have in Patreon and beyond! Keep it up! Kyle

Kyle Alpern

Daniel, it is one person among billions who gets off by being a d**k. Forget him/her/it and concentrate on the positive people in your life. By reacting you are pandering to them and trust me, they will, unfortunately, sleep well tonight. Just keep on doing what you are doing, stay positive and block these idiots out of your life.

Dwayne Dibley

🚅 21st century train 🌝

Daniel Schneider

Daniel Schneider

Thanks a lot for doing this. All this negative bs on reddit is the reason why I don‘t check anything playing card related anymore over there. And of course that is sad but it‘s like roulette. One post where people praise your work to the skies and on a different day there are 100 people who are making jokes about the same work.

Daniel Schneider

Man people like him are just crazy. It's the same old conversation that somehow only happens with some people. I agree with what others said, which is that you're one of the best in the industry! There is so much more planning in your decks than just 'recoloring the backs'. People like him should go and argue with Fontaines instead of you and just leave you to your work. If he doesn't like the decks, then don't buy them. Simple as that

Martijn van de Kant

Yeah this guy Must been bored as hell in his life to come and talk nonsense about ur decks Art, How many times havent you said you dont profit of this??? Just to make us happy ??? You care of your cards more than earn ton of money of it . Fu that kid and lets FOCUS ON DONDORF RELEASE ❤❤🙏🙏🙏

Fardin Tavakoly

Sorry you have to deal with people like that - seems like they could just be trolling you at this point, feeling like they're getting a reaction from you and just feeding off that. Pretty horrible behavior no matter the motivation.

Brian Ng

I think at that level of success or someone lesser known, ppl will troll because they jealous, offended, or malicious. It's a little creepy this guy knows specific details like the funding goal and other super specific things. Seems like he's trying to throw a cog in the wheel but nothing can stop the Scheider train from storming through the industry. 🚂🚂🚂🔥🔥🔥🔥 Full steam ahead!!

Jorge Anido

I have actually had to defend your decks on reddit a few times. I don't understand why people praise and obsess over Fontaine's new color decks but than try to criticize your decks. If they don't like your decks, they can just...I don't know....not buy them? I find it weird people go out of their way to try to make light of the work you've put into every new deck. Even if you did just make no changes besides the color, who cares? If people didn't like them then you wouldn't make any money anyways. People should just let people do what they want with their art and product.

Alexander MacDougall

There will always be people like this. Don't let them waste your time or kill your spirit. You're a freaking legend in the industry. Not everyone can take that, sucks for them. Keep up the amazing work & stay gold x

RJ


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